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#41
Well yeah.
I mean, if u look at a map North America is just floatin in the middle of the water, dangerously close to the left side of the world.
We'll fall off eventually, whenever the water current gods decide.

It's basic geometry really.
#42
What exactly do you mean by fall?

I think eventually we will lose the power we have around the world. We won't be able to station troops around the world, we'll call them back, struggle within ourselves, maybe have a little civil war.

Then we will rebuild.

But no one is going to invade us. No country except for maybe Russia has the power to move large numbers of troops like we do.
#45
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#46
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I'm not gonna read that, But history is shown to repeat itself so sure why not?

Pretty much this.
There was some quote about America being like the Romans and how it was soo great, it fell under its own greatness and how America is no different. Or something like that.
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#47
Sure, the USA will "fall" eventually, but not for the reasons listed in the OP. The Samsung, HTC, and LG smartphones are running Android, developed by Google, and using processors based on ARM architecture, many of the processors manufactured by Qualcomm or Texas instruments. The PC market, even though Lenovo, Samsung, ASUS, and Acer are huge players, are shipping PCs with Windows, developed by Microsoft, and running either an Intel or AMD processor.

And somehow I doubt the fall of the USA will be caused by those Koreans being too damn good at Starcraft(developed by Blizzard)...
#50
Maybe in England's wet dreams.
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#51
I think there will be a revolution either at the hands of a great leader or an incompetent one. Until then we'll keep playing our media controlled partisan games.

I agree that an economic disaster is just about the only way it will fall, but I could also see a world war AGAINST the US.

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#54
Well, we know that mass globalization is happening in proportion with technological advancements. So in that regard, there is something to be said about the boarders coming down in the future.
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#55
If we do fall, please god let us fall with straight and even teeth.
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#56
ITT: Every Redditor and/or Pit Monkey's fantasies.

Might as well have S[weed]en take over the planet while you're at it.

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#57
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Pretty much this.
There was some quote about America being like the Romans and how it was soo great, it fell under its own greatness and how America is no different. Or something like that.

America is very different than Ancient Rome.
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#60
Best Korea will prevail.



Because they've got mother****in' unicorns.
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#61
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Elaborate?

The US and Ancient Rome do have similarities, much of it coming from the fact that they are both "top dog" in a way, but they exist in completely different contexts. Saying that the America will fall "under it's own greatness" (what ever the hell that means) like Rome did is a gross oversimplification of history.

The whole "history repeats itself" idea irks me as well. Sure, things sort of go in cycles, but there are new things happening all the time. When in world history has one of two great "empires" suddenly dissolve itself rather peacefully? When in world history did we have the means to communicate almost instantly around the globe?
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#62
The USA and Rome are different, because the USA is not build on the militairy overthrow of an entire continent. What region do you think wants to seperate themselves from the USA? Alaska?
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#63
Uhh long wall of text for a simple answer. YES. OF COURSE. When? I have no idea, but nothing lasts forever.
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#64
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It.. kind of is.

Oh yeah I'm sorry, I didn't see it was you whom I was talking to.
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#65
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The USA and Rome are different, because the USA is not build on the militairy overthrow of an entire continent. What region do you think wants to seperate themselves from the USA? Alaska?


Well it is, it's just that the Native Americans are only a small minority in America now.

Edit:
Yea, what the other guy said.
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#66
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Well it is, it's just that the Native Americans are only a small minority in America now.

Edit:
Yea, what the other guy said.

Ok, but that's quite different from the Roman Empire who were a minority in their own empire.
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#67
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So the subjugation of the Native Americans doesn't count as the overthrow of a continent because they were massacred almost to extinction?

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#68
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So the subjugation of the Native Americans doesn't count as the overthrow of a continent because they were massacred almost to extinction?

It's my phrasing of the thing. I meant that Rome's power was entirely dependent on their ability to use their military might to keep the overthrown factions under their reign. As the Romans didn't have the numbers any more to hold that kind of area + some other problems, their empire collapsed and all races broke free.

The USA does not need to be scared on the indians, and therefore has less chance of collapsing under its own policies. If it does collapse it will be because of a different reason.
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#69
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East/West Rome

But it wasn't exactly by choice and there were plenty of external pressures. And I don't think they were as ready to kill each other as the US and USSR were.

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Rome didn't "overthrow" a continent. They conquered lands around the Mediterranean Sea, a fact that was a very important factor of their success. Sea travel was faster than land travel, and as the started to expand farther and farther away from water, it became harder to keep the peace and establish Roman authority in those regions.

Further, the US doesn't need to keep expanding to prosper to survive like Rome did.
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#70
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But it wasn't exactly by choice and there were plenty of external pressures. And I don't think they were as ready to kill each other as the US and USSR were.

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Rome didn't "overthrow" a continent. They conquered lands around the Mediterranean Sea, a fact that was a very important factor of their success. Sea travel was faster than land travel, and as the started to expand farther and farther away from water, it became harder to keep the peace and establish Roman authority in those regions.

Further, the US doesn't need to keep expanding to prosper to survive like Rome did.

The conquered till the North of the Netherlands, parts of Britain and Germany.
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#71
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The conquered till the North of the Netherlands, parts of Britain and Germany.

And that's around the time they stopped expanding so much into the rest of Europe. It was also harder to do since the people living in much of un-Romanized Europe were nomadic. Most of the people Rome conquered were already living a pretty sedentary lifestyle, so being conquered by Rome wasn't a big upset to them.

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Then why are you the world's police if not to maintain overseas assets?

The way Rome needed to expand was partly because of their military. They needed the army in order to conquer land. They also needed land because they gave each retiree land and money on conquered land, an incentive for enlistment. This cycle starts to break down when expansion slows.
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#72
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Saying that the America will fall "under it's own greatness" (what ever the hell that means) like Rome did is a gross oversimplification of history.
Basically because Romans destroyed Rome because they let their economy fall apart and did nothing about it until it was too late.

I dunno. I remember that movie "Lions for Lambs" going into depth about this. It made sense when I watched it.
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#74
The states will eventually secede in the long run. States are now defying federal laws so that they can enforce their own.

I feel like the US will eventually become similar to the EU. Each state will have its own constitution and will help other states in their time of need without an official ruling of the federal government.

Or it could all end up like the Judge Dredd universe, where cities are now combined to create mega cities divided by district and territory lines throughout the globe.
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#75
America police the world, now.
It is America who has drones flying over foreign countries to bomb threats to America.
That's power.
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#76
Probably.

However it's not going to be a 'China invades America/becomes more powerful and runs the world' scenario. The UK for example no longer has an empire and is no longer a superpower but it's still a strong power and influence. That's how I see America in the future. With that said I don't think it's a bad thing if there are multiple superpowers (unless it erupts into global conflict).
#78
Depends what you mean by fall.

Militarily, that's never happening, the US spends 43% of the world military budge, it's decades ahead of the world in terms of military technology.

Economically, although seems possible, is also unlikely. The US is still the largest economic powerhouse of the world, and the thing about China taking over economically is totally over hyped. Most of China's population is in poverty and hungry, and if the US and China were to embargo each other, the US would come out on top because it doesn't need China as much as China needs the US. US businesses in China will just pull out and come back to the US. And China will never go to war with the US, because then all the debt that is owed to China will go *poof*.

In the end, the US will never completely cease to exist, the worst that will happen is that it will become like the UK, no longer as powerful as it used to be, but still a strong global influence economically and militarily.
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#80
i dunno but the US is st upid anyways so i shay we should just get rid of it
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