ch1ng_chung
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What is it with these strings? A special formula or something?

I've used Ernie Balls (all kinds), Elixir (once or twice), and D'Addarios before, and they all turned black within 2 days and lost most of their useful tone within 2 weeks, even the 12 gauge ones. Stopped using Elixirs because their tone was thin from when I put them on, and D'Addarios got so grippy after the first 2 days that it became impossible to slide on them.

Then in December, I picked up a strange blue box of strings named DR Pure Blues, and for some reason these strings have kept all of their tone and color within the 2 months I've had them. And I thought Ernie Balls were good benders; the DR Pure Blues allow me to easily go up 3 steps on each string, whereas I had to struggle to bend 2 steps with the Ernie Balls.

I've even broke the B string (DR) and replaced it with an Ernie Ball 3 weeks ago. That B string is now dark grey and very hard to slide on, with visible lines where it has made contact with the frets, while every other string is still sparkly metallic.

I can't say what the heck is with these strings, but it's obviously not what Elixir's doing, because these strings feel better and have lasted longer than Elixirs
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Your body chemistry will react differently to the composition of strings. So I guess your sweat is more compatible with those strings. That doesn't mean that Elixirs don't do what they claim to or that they're crap, it just means they don't work for you.
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I don't know anyone else who this happens to, like every string except one brand rusts so easily
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Same here - I used DR Pure Blues on my Ibanez AS80 (ES335 clone) and wouldn't use anything else, and I've tried almost every string made. They last for months - one caveat, however: I rub them with Fast Fret before and after each playing. But yes, they are wonderful strings, IMHO.
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Quote by Ruark
Same here - I used DR Pure Blues on my Ibanez AS80 (ES335 clone) and wouldn't use anything else, and I've tried almost every string made. They last for months - one caveat, however: I rub them with Fast Fret before and after each playing. But yes, they are wonderful strings, IMHO.

i use DR blues and fast fret as well.

with very good results.
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I've read that it is not uncommon to get strings in a pack that won't intonate. Is this true? Are they good about getting replacement packs out?
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I've been using them for five years and I've never had a set that wouldn't intonate except for when I didn't follow the directions and stretched them tight when putting them on. They have a round core as opposed to the usual grippier hex core, and if you stretch them the way some people do - put them on, bring them up to pitch, then yank them straight up - the core slips and the string goes wonky. That's just my guess as to what's going on, but that's the only time I've ever had that problem and I've gone through dozens of sets.
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What are you suppose to do? I do what you described with Ernie Balls.
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The string packaging says not to stretch them like that. Just put them on and let them settle in naturally. It takes a little while longer for them to stabilize but it's not a terrible inconvenience or anything unless you have a gig in half an hour.
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So tune to pitch, play, retune, play, retune play, etc?

Sometimes I think that is the better way to do it. I seemed to get more life.
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One thing to take notice are that the DR Pure Blues strings are pure nickel while most strings today are nickel-plated steel. Are pure nickel strings easier to bend/last longer/stay shinier/etc.?
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Quote by Roc8995
The string packaging says not to stretch them like that. Just put them on and let them settle in naturally. It takes a little while longer for them to stabilize but it's not a terrible inconvenience or anything unless you have a gig in half an hour.

oh. well shit, I literally just got a pack at put them on and did that. I do with all my strings.

oh well. they're cheap, feel nice and sound good so I think i'm gonna stick with these, if it helps TS.
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See they are 8 bucks a pack around here, so they are up there in terms of cost.

I'd like to know what Roc means by settling in.

I've been told 4 ways to get the the stretch out of strings so they hold a tune:

Tune to pitch, play, retune, play, retune, play until they hold a pitch and then set intonation.

Tune to pitch, set the guitar down for a bit, pick it up, retune, set it down for a bit, repeat until it holds pitch then set intonation.

Tune to pick, place a capo on it for an hour or so, retune, recapo, retune, set intonation when strings will hold desired pitch.

Then there is the tune and snap method.

I'd really like to know what Roc meant by settle in naturally.

Ihartford,

It's probably a higher chance of ruining the strings than a it will always happen situation. Otherwise most people would ruin them without realizing it and think they are garbage.

Now I'm wondering if I ruined a set of Dean Markley's doing the snap method. I had one set that was golden, then I had another set it couldn't get to settle in if my life depended on it. The intonation was always wonky on that set as well.
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Quote by ihartfood
oh. well shit, I literally just got a pack at put them on and did that. I do with all my strings.

i wouldn't sweat it.

i've done this with every set of DR blues i've ever put on my guitars.

didn't know i wasn't supposed to until roc8995 posted that.

and i've never had an issue.
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they hold tune quite nicely and intonate fine. Roc means just play em, let them fall out of tune, come back later, tune, repeat.


That is what I assumed. I will be restringing my guitar soon. I will try that with my EBs I have. See if they last even longer for me.

Was there much of an intonation change for you? I'm wondering if there will be even though I will be using the same gauge and tuning.
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Pure Blues are pure nickel strings, they don't have any steel in them to oxidize or rust. I wonder if anyone makes a pure cobalt string, or if that's even physically possible? It'd be pretty damn expensive . Remember there are only 3 elements that are magnetic as-found in nature: Iron (except stainless steel), Cobalt, and Nickel.

Round core strings are different than hex core. If you put a good crimp in the string with a pair of pliers the inner core won't slip. They actually do this from the factory at the opposite end from the ball and you can feel/see it on an uncut, fresh string. But on my shorter Gibson-scale guitars this crimp is sometimes cut off when I trim the shorter strings (both E's on a Gibson, D and G on a Dean). However if you string your guitar the correct way it creates a good crimp (kink) on it's own when you 'lock' the string in place, but I usually crimp it with pliers right before where I plan to trim the string for extra assurance.
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Does that mean I can't use them? I need to cut the ball off for my locking trem?
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The crimp is found at the other end of the string, away from the ball. Look at a fresh string and you'll see it
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I've been using them for a few months and I find that if you string them properly and have a proper lock on the tuning peg, you won't have any issues.


Also, I stretch the strings slightly as well as bend them a bunch before I play. No intonation issues or anything. I think the most important thing is a proper stringing method really.
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The crimp is found at the other end of the string, away from the ball. Look at a fresh string and you'll see it

But can I cut the ball end?
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Yeah, sure. I used DR's all the time when I still had Floyds.
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Yeah, sure. I used DR's all the time when I still had Floyds.


Did you crimp before the cut?

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Nope, just cut the ball off and string it up like normal. Whenever you lock the string into the saddle it crimps the end in the process by squeezing the living crap outta it when you tighten the screw.
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Nope, just cut the ball off and string it up like normal. Whenever you lock the string into the saddle it crimps the end in the process by squeezing the living crap outta it when you tighten the screw.


Totally should have thought about that. Will I have to change the intonation much or is that a guitar dependent question?
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special formula......sssshhhheeeiiitt. i thought they meant they were marketed to blues players.
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