azledon
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#1
I dont have easy access to near guitar store. If i order epiphone guitar , hollow body, on line will it give me any sound without amp.

I am very new to this except with acoustic.



DW
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#2
Well, not really. The semi hollow gives it a unique tone, it's not really meant to be a substitute for an acoustic.
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paruwi
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#3
Quote by azledon
I dont have easy access to near guitar store. If i order epiphone guitar , hollow body, on line will it give me any sound without amp.

I am very new to this except with acoustic.



DW


Yes, a hollowbody will give you any sound,
otherwise a Jazz guitar without pickups would not be heard....

even a semihollow will give you some sound......
SteveHOC
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#4
If it's fully hollow, you will get some acoustic tone, if you're going semi-hollow, you won't get much.
OffsetOffset
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#5
Yea of course it'll give you some sound, but personally, I don't think it's loud enough to play without an amp.
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SGFAN4174
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#6
In B4 "what you need is a new amp". Seriously though, if you want to get any usable sound out of it, you will need an amp.
Everything I say can be fully substantiated by my own opinion
SteveHOC
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#7
It really depends on the depth of the body. My Mosrite Celebrity, though hollow, does not produce much sound sans-amp, while the Gretsch 5120 I used to have was quite audible unplugged.

Which Epiphone are we talking about?
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jpnyc
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#9
Two-pickup hollowbodies usually have a very bright, twangy, percussive tone. They sound about halfway between a guitar and a banjo, with the volume of a loud ukelele. They’re great for solo practice without an amp, but can’t be used to perform and can’t keep up with most other instruments.

If you just want to play cleans you can get a big jazz archtop with just a small neck pickup and that will give you almost the sound of an acoustic guitar, but will sound like an electric plugged in.
randywolf244
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#10
its kind of like a mix between it wont give you the room filling sound of an acoustic but it wont be the same all you can hear is the pick scraping of an electric. its about 1/4 of the loudness of an electric, however a full hollow is basically an archtop acoustic with pups on top. that will give you just about the same as aan acoustic
Guitbuilder
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#13
Archtops are built for both acoustic and amplifyed playing. Properties that help one hurt the other. An acoustic big body archtop will have a solid maple top, be built as light as a cloud, and sound great unplugged. An archtop guitar built for electric amplification, like the iconic Gibson ES-175 will have a laminated plywood top and a sustain block in their construction which helps with amplificated sound, but works against the unplugged sound by hampering the top's vibrational response to the strings.
Other considerations to your archtop choice in my opinion should be it's scale length. Some jazzbox guitars have a a shorter scale length than other guitars. If you have big hands, this might not feel right.
Big fat guitar bodies can be uncomfortable to lean over and play if you don't sit up and keep them from digging into your ribcage. If you are used to a thin solid body Fender type guitar, try playing it with a sixpack between you and the body.
Neck profile is next, the ES-175 has a short scale, high arched, narrow neck with a big body, built for magical jazz tones. The Gibson ES-135 is a wonderful thin hollowbody guitar with a fat chunky neck that's fretboard arch is as flat as a desert, amazing pickups, but nothing unplugged. There is no perfect guitar.
Consider both hands as well as your ears and eyes when choosing a guitar. Look at the Epi ES-175 copy for a taste of old school on a budget. I think it's their archtop with the best chances of sounding well unplugged. Good luck.
Last edited by Guitbuilder at Apr 7, 2013,
soundjam
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#14
Quote by Guitbuilder
Archtops are built for both acoustic and amplifyed playing. Properties that help one hurt the other. An acoustic big body archtop will have a solid maple top, be built as light as a cloud, and sound great unplugged. .


It would have a spruce top. A well made acoustic archtop would be built much like a violin, with a carved spruce top and a carved maple back.
1grumpyoldman
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#15
I, too, have been eyeing up an Epiphone hollow body for nearly a year. Nearly pulled the trigger on the 'Joe Pass'. But just last week brought home a Gretsch G5420T. Nicer acoustic sound than the Epiphone JP, and that's coming from a guy who's been playing the same Epiphone acoustic for 40 years now.
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