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#7
Their internal corruption eventually caused their army to weaken, thereby allowing the barbarian tribes to make military gains on them.
#9
Aliens
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#13
Kratos.
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BOB 1. ur 20 and two u like evil things and idk if u worship the devil
#15
Prolly internet porn...
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#16
It's just that the Romans were one of the greatest civilizations in history and now they are the dirty Italians, only good for making pizza and basing gangster movies off of and ruining our youth with that dang Jersey Shore. Such a shame
#17
The Pope quit.
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#18
You have a perfect analogy in the modern times, really not that hard to see the downfall.
#19
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You have a perfect analogy in the modern times, really not that hard to see the downfall.

Russia?
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#21
I think ceaser had something to do with it don't quote me on it though, I was usually stoned in history class
#22
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That.
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#23
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You have a perfect analogy in the modern times, really not that hard to see the downfall.

#24
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I think ceaser had something to do with it don't quote me on it though, I was usually stoned in history class

He had been dead for 2 centuries.
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#26
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You have a perfect analogy in the modern times, really not that hard to see the downfall.

Are you dissing Murica? Cause I will fisticuffs you!
#27
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Russia?


A more common comparison would be with the USA. I think it would be an insult to the Roman Empire to equate it to Russia, it just doesn't qualify.

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I'm not really "dissing" your country. But I do think it's quite foolish to understand how history went and not see an analogy with your current government. If people don't learn from mistakes then they're bound to repeat them, and the "history repeats itself" seems to be a plausible expectation.
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#28
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You should have paid attention in 7th grade history.

In 7th grade history I learned about the Revolution. In sixth grade I learned about the ancient Greeks, that shit was cool.
#29
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A more common comparison would be with the USA. I think it would be an insult to the Roman Empire to equate it to Russia, it just doesn't qualify.

But the united states shall never fall.
#30
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A more common comparison would be with the USA. I think it would be an insult to the Roman Empire to equate it to Russia, it just doesn't qualify.

You're a ****ing idiot. What mighty regions did the USA overthrow AND occupy?
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#31
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You're a ****ing idiot. What mighty regions did the USA overthrow AND occupy?


I do believe that's too much of a literal analogy. USA is quite an imperialistic government occupying many of their military bases around the world with no intent of abandoning them. Insanely huge military budget that makes every other country fade in comparison.



How would you not consider this imperialistic behavior the likes of which the Roman Empire happily enforced.

And just like the Roman Empires' economy could not sustain its' military and imperial dominance, so is the USAs' economy failing with such military spending in effect.
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#32
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I do believe that's too much of a literal analogy. USA is quite an imperialistic government occupying many of their military bases around the world with no intent of abandoning them. Insanely huge military budget that makes every other country fade in comparison.



How would you not consider this imperialistic behavior the likes of which the Roman Empire happily enforced.

Because:


vs.

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#33
If you're thinking very broad terms, and I mean very broad, then yes, the US is like the Roman Empire.

US "imperialism" is nothing like that of the Roman empire and we live in a completely different world.
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#34
So your argument against the analogy is purely geographical?

If that were the case, how are we able to compare Japans' economy with that of Russia, China and the USA which occupy a much larger territory?

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If you're thinking very broad terms, and I mean very broad, then yes, the US is like the Roman Empire.

US "imperialism" is nothing like that of the Roman empire and we live in a completely different world.


I never claimed that it is such, but ignoring the analogy would not be intellectually honest. And of course US "imperialism" differs from the Roman Empire, but imperialism is defined as

"the creation and/or maintenance of a country's power and influence through military force"

with that as a definition, we could clearly see the analogy between the Roman Empire which was unable to sustain its' military dominance with the USA having an insane military budget when it's not even slightly necessary to sustain its' power and influence.
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#36
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So your argument against the analogy is purely geographical?

If that were the case, how are we able to compare Japans' economy with that of Russia, China and the USA which occupy a much larger territory?

My argument is that the Roman empire conquered massive amounts of land and people, whereas the USA invaded some countries who were causing troubles and then left. It's something entirely different. The USA is in a stable position.
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#37
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A more common comparison would be with the USA. I think it would be an insult to the Roman Empire to equate it to Russia, it just doesn't qualify.


I'm not really "dissing" your country. But I do think it's quite foolish to understand how history went and not see an analogy with your current government. If people don't learn from mistakes then they're bound to repeat them, and the "history repeats itself" seems to be a plausible expectation.



Actually the USSR would be a better comparison. They both had rapid military expansion which led to the takeover of land. They then relied on recruitment of men from the conquered lands who did not want Roman/Russian rule. When these people had been trained up they fought back.
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#38
Quote by Neo Evil11
My argument is that the Roman empire conquered massive amounts of land and people, whereas the USA invaded some countries who were causing troubles and then left. It's something entirely different. The USA is in a stable position.


That is up for debate. But my analogy is not based on territorial expansion, rather militaristic expansion.

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Actually the USSR would be a better comparison. They both had rapid military expansion which led to the takeover of land. They then relied on recruitment of men from the conquered lands who did not want Roman/Russian rule. When these people had been trained up they fought back.


I agree with that, however I was mentioning the modern "now-in-progress" analogy, which is why I do not mention nowadays Russia which is much different from what it was back then.
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#39
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That is up for debate. But my analogy is not based on territorial expansion, rather militaristic expansion.

Yes, because having some bases around the world is militaristic expansion.
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#40
Aliens.
There's no such thing; there never was. Where I am going you cannot follow me now.
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