#1
I have a line 6 spider 2 amp and it is quite old but it doesn’t work well with- my pedals my looper or my proco cat. so I am looking for a new amp ! The amp will only be for my home so I don’t want anything to loud, I dont mine if the amp has some FX build in but as long as it doesnt stop me from make different sounds from my guitar using loop overdubs . My line 6 amp did this I start of playing with clean for Rhythm then try to add overdub with some lead with distortion crunch on the amp FX but it changed my first loop from clean to distortion

So if anyone could tell me the type of amp i am best getting or could recommend one would be a great help.
#2
Budget?
New/Used?
Location/Nearest city?
Genres?
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Budget?
New/Used?
Location/Nearest city?
Genres?

I am in the UK and can spend up to 600.00 pounds on an amp.

I am in to rock 80s 90s and some heavy rock . I have a Distortion pedal but i do use clean too.
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#5
If you're willing to go used, look for a Marshall DSL401
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#6
Orange rocker 30 or thunder 30. The DSL401 is pretty underwhelming IMO.
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Laney VC50/100

Or since your only using it for bedroom use, a Peavey Bandit would be just fine.
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Orange rocker 30 or thunder 30. The DSL401 is pretty underwhelming IMO.

the DSL401 is like the only Marshall I like :/
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Orange rocker 30 or thunder 30. The DSL401 is pretty underwhelming IMO.

Looks a nice amp but i would be a bit worried about it being 30watt tube for my home use.
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the DSL401 is like the only Marshall I like :/


Thanks for clearing that up.
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Thanks for clearing that up.

Can't tell if you're being clever here or not.

30 watts tube for home is fine, they have master volumes for a reason. I've been able to pump a 100 watt valve at very reasonable volumes, even late night practice. I'd suggest getting out and trying some stuff, surfing your local classifieds for some of the amps suggested. Youtube clips are useful as well.
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Looks a nice amp but i would be a bit worried about it being 30watt tube for my home use.



Don't be worried. They don't have to be cranked to sound good, I had a th30 in flat like accommodation and it was fine at low volumes. That being said, when you crank them they do sound exquisite.
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Thanks for clearing that up.

sarcastic much...

the Rocker 30 is a great amp too, but Orange is a very specific tone and not for everyone so I went with a much more popular recommendation... IMO the TH30 is a pile of crap for anything but metal, and he did not list metal, so I'd say it probably wouldn't suit him.
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Can't tell if you're being clever here or not.

30 watts tube for home is fine, they have master volumes for a reason. I've been able to pump a 100 watt valve at very reasonable volumes, even late night practice. I'd suggest getting out and trying some stuff, surfing your local classifieds for some of the amps suggested. Youtube clips are useful as well.


I wasn't "being clever" but I was being sarcastic if that's what you want to know.

The fact that the 401 is his favourite Marshall is completely irrelevant as the OP isn't limited to just Marshall amps.

I maintain that for the money, the 401 is a pretty bland amp, it's not awful but it's also not brilliant. There are far better amps for the OP to consider.
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I wasn't "being clever" but I was being sarcastic if that's what you want to know.

The fact that the 401 is his favourite Marshall is completely irrelevant as the OP isn't limited to just Marshall amps.

I maintain that for the money, the 401 is a pretty bland amp, it's not awful but it's also not brilliant. There are far better amps for the OP to consider.

That's what I call being clever. A smartass basically.

Don't do that. Argue your point critically, don't just make stupid passing comments like that. It's cool if you have an opinion on it, but other people do to.
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That's what I call being clever. A smartass basically.

Don't do that. Argue your point critically, don't just make stupid passing comments like that. It's cool if you have an opinion on it, but other people do to.



Thanks for clearing that up.


Back to the OP,

As stated, if you like the sound of the Orange rocker or thunder, don't let the 30 watt power output deter you but do try one in person before buying if you can.
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Well aren't you just a delight.

TS, I agree with all the recommendations. Especially the Laney. For the price you really can't go wrong and it's probably going to be the most versatile out of the recommended amps.
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I wasn't "being clever" but I was being sarcastic if that's what you want to know.

The fact that the 401 is his favourite Marshall is completely irrelevant as the OP isn't limited to just Marshall amps.

I maintain that for the money, the 401 is a pretty bland amp, it's not awful but it's also not brilliant. There are far better amps for the OP to consider.
I didn't say it was my favourite, I said it was the only one I liked (in fact, it extends to the whole DSL series, and I am discounting the JTM45 and the JMP18 as they aren't really available anymore). My reply was actually my dismay at your dismissal of it.

I work as an amp tech and have had a large number of Marshalls across my bench and the DSLs are the only ones that consistently deliver a fantastic British classic crunch tone, and have the least issues with noise, design flaws, faults etc.

The DSL401 is practical, sounds great at lower volumes, kicks at the the styles of music he listed and has never once underwhelmed me.

No he isn't limited to marshall amps, but he's not barred from them either, and if he wanted one that would be his best option.

The only other brand options that came to mind in his price range and genre tone are probably Orange and Jet City, as we pretty much can't get jet city over here and orange is often a bit of a love or hate tone I went with the Marshall.

Having said that though, a Laney might work, the Cub 12R if he's looking for something smaller, or possibly a Bugera V22, although i don't normally recommend Bugera
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I'd recommend the DSL 401, I got one for £300 second hand. I use it as my amp to play through at home and have never had any noise complaints
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#21
I will try a few at the shop but i have been look alot at the Hughes&Kettner Tubemeister 18 amp
I like the fx loop and the option of 18 or 5 or 1 watt / 2chan, 3 eq i think it has adjustable Reverb and tcs protection what ever that is . Has anyone got this amp or even tried it out i would like to know what you think of it .
#22
I dont know if anyone mentioned, but if you're using your looper into the front of the amp with a clean sound, then turn distortion on the amp, no matter what amp you use your looped sound is going to be distorted.

You would need to have your guitar setup Guitar > Distortion Pedal > Looper > Clean amp.

That way you record your loop with the distortion pedal off, then you turn the distortion pedal on to use that over the clean sound. That way the looper is still sending your clean signal to the clean amp, and your distortion pedal is sending a seperate signal to the amp.


If you're running it Guitar > Looper > Amp, you're recording a looped clean signal with the amp creating the clean sound, then you're turning the distortion on the amp and it is distorting the signal coming into it, every amp will do the exact same thing with this method and buying a new amp isn't going to change that.
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I dont know if anyone mentioned, but if you're using your looper into the front of the amp with a clean sound, then turn distortion on the amp, no matter what amp you use your looped sound is going to be distorted.

You would need to have your guitar setup Guitar > Distortion Pedal > Looper > Clean amp.

That way you record your loop with the distortion pedal off, then you turn the distortion pedal on to use that over the clean sound. That way the looper is still sending your clean signal to the clean amp, and your distortion pedal is sending a seperate signal to the amp.


If you're running it Guitar > Looper > Amp, you're recording a looped clean signal with the amp creating the clean sound, then you're turning the distortion on the amp and it is distorting the signal coming into it, every amp will do the exact same thing with this method and buying a new amp isn't going to change that.

What if i plug the loop pedal in to the FX loop on the amp then record the first loop in clean then turn distortion on the amps build in effect to record overdub with the distortion sound, wont the first loop still stay clean?
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#24
If you do that the first loop will stay clean, the effects loop is placed after the distortion in the chain, that means the amps distortion sound will not be able to effect your looped sound. So yes that should work.
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If you do that the first loop will stay clean, the effects loop is placed after the distortion in the chain, that means the amps distortion sound will not be able to effect your looped sound. So yes that should work.

Well this is one Reason I am getting a new amp my spider 2 line6 it doesn’t have a great sound and no FX loop on the amp , I have tried using the looper pedal with it and the sound drops on the recording a little not sure why .

I am just wondering if I use the FX loop on the amp with my looper pedal I will be able to use the amps effects to make different sounding overdubs but what if I want to add another pedal like my proco cat2, I use sometimes where would I add this but with out messing up the looper ? Also is the FX loop on the amp placed after the distortion in the chain on all amps or is this something i should check ?
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