MarqueeMoon77
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Hey all

So I've been considering getting a new bass, problem is I've only played Peavey T-40's and being left handed has not afforded me the oppurtunity to actually try out fender jazz or p-basses because they are generally not as available to play in store as I'd like. So i was wondering if you could tell me how these basses differ in terms of sound. I play punk/hardcore/indie rock stuff and generally use older solid state (acoustic control or peavey pre-1983) amps if that helps.

Thanks
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You can find a million answers on Google.
But if you ask me the Jazz bass has more mids and the P bass has more lows. Jazz has a thinner neck and you can easily get more tones right off the bat with the pickup combinations.

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You've been here longer than me, and still don't know about the rule about no VS threads?

Short story, Jazz bass = growly, midrange-y tone. Youtube Geddy Lee for a decent approximation. Precision bass = thumpier, more low end. Most motown bassists used a P bass, and its a more classic tone.

P basses are known for having much chunkier necks, and are imo, more comfortable to grip, and Jazz basses have thinner necks, with narrower nuts.

If you want to stand out more in the mix, with counter melodies and bass lines that go against the grain a bit, play a jazz. If you want to blend in, and create a more powerful sound, go for a precision.

I just traded my jazz bass fretless in for a p bass deluxe (with a jazz pickup in the bridge)...it's all down to preference.

Obviously people will argue my points, but those are just the very basics that define the two. Aside from the price (Fender charge a little more for Jazz basses).

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lurking the forums and breaking rules since the bush administration

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EDIT: is it an 'unknown guy from 2006' convention here?

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Actually this isn't a rule breaking "vs" more of a "or" thread.
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Actually this isn't a rule breaking "vs" more of a "or" thread.


its all symantics, i apologize for breaking the rules, but as someone who has only played one type of bass due to my handedness i felt it was a good reason to
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Quote by MarqueeMoon77
its all symantics, i apologize for breaking the rules, but as someone who has only played one type of bass due to my handedness i felt it was a good reason to


It's not symantics, Tam's referring to the context of the thread. A 'vs' thread is basically an 'x or y, who's better?' thread, which just ends up becoming petty squabbling. You're asking about the differences between two instruments to try and help you decide which route to go down.
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up to you, for me the jazz does it, but could be a whole nother story for yourself, go to a local gc and play each one and im sure it wont take you too long to find out which one you like
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Since the 2006 combo has been broken I feel i can comment here

Both basses are classic, passive, simple to use, and are great options as a starter bass IMHO. You may find you prefer one over the other, as that is what happens mostly. i.e. I'm a "Jazz Guy", so I like Jazz basses, and i tend to dislike P basses. I there are two important differences. First one is sound. Check youtube for comparison videos in order to get a clue. The second one is comfortability. The necks are pretty different one from each other and to be sure which is more comfortable to you, you can only do one thing: try them both. I highly recommend you to try them. If you're not able to try them left handed, at the very least I'd give it a try with playing right handed. Of course it will look like you've never played before, and I'm not sure if it will give you an idea of how different the necks are, but at least it's something
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I love both and they both have their places.

Jazz--the Jazz is a versatile bass with a variety of sounds that can be achieved by dialing up the pickups. If you are going to do a decent amount of slap bass, I think its a better choice. It also has a slimmer neck profile

however......

The Precision is the bass world's version of the most interesting man in the world. It has a unique tone, but its one that seems to fit in well anywhere. Its the backbone of the blues, Motown and Stax sound, but its also that of the Punk, Classic Rock, Ska and Reggae world as well. The necks have been compared to baseball bats however.
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EDIT: is it an 'unknown guy from 2006' convention here?


Apparently (well at least the 2006 part anyway )

P or J? The age-old question.

P- stronger mids, (generally) chunkier neck

J - more rounded tone, thinner neck.

Of course there are a whole load of variations on either the P or the J theme. People generally decide they like one and stick to it, but that's not to say they won't be blown away by a particular example of the other at some point.

Also I think the "No vs. threads" is just to keep the kids playing nice in the EG forum
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Perhaps you should approach it from an anthropological perspective:

Hofner Violin Bass = Homo Habilis

Gibson Grabber Bass = Homo Erectus

Fender Precision Bass = Neanderthal Man

Fender Jazz Bass = Cro Magnon Man

Music Man StingRay Bass = Modern Man

Alembic Bass = Alien Grays

Where do you want to be on the evolutionary tree?
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Quote by FatalGear41
Perhaps you should approach it from an anthropological perspective:

Hofner Violin Bass = Homo Habilis

Gibson Grabber Bass = Homo Erectus

Fender Precision Bass = Neanderthal Man

Fender Jazz Bass = Cro Magnon Man

Music Man StingRay Bass = Modern Man

Alembic Bass = Alien Grays

Where do you want to be on the evolutionary tree?

SO I'm in between Cromagnon and Modern man... Maybe I'm the lost link
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Quote by FatalGear41
Perhaps you should approach it from an anthropological perspective:

Hofner Violin Bass = Homo Habilis

Gibson Grabber Bass = Homo Erectus

Fender Precision Bass = Neanderthal Man

Fender Jazz Bass = Cro Magnon Man

Music Man StingRay Bass = Modern Man

Alembic Bass = Alien Grays

Where do you want to be on the evolutionary tree?


Homo habilis it is then...

Anyway, in terms of practicality there is bugger all between a P or J. All personal preference.
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SO I'm in between Cromagnon and Modern man... Maybe I'm the lost link


You could be a hybrid. After 3:00 a.m. and enough liquor, some of those Cro-Mag chicks suddenly don't look so bad...
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Quote by FatalGear41
Perhaps you should approach it from an anthropological perspective:

Hofner Violin Bass = Homo Habilis

Gibson Grabber Bass = Homo Erectus

Fender Precision Bass = Neanderthal Man

Fender Jazz Bass = Cro Magnon Man

Music Man StingRay Bass = Modern Man

Alembic Bass = Alien Grays

Where do you want to be on the evolutionary tree?


Alien Grays...does that mean that their heads are too heavy for their bodies?
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It means that the technology is so advanced and so confusing that you need a giant gray head just to figure it out.

They also look weird, like the Grays.
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where would chris wolstenholmes new status bass be on the scale
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where would chris wolstenholmes new status bass be on the scale


Modern Man, but with LEDs. Though possibly a robot, as there are no natural components in that bass.

Status basses...the Rise of the Machines?
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Modern Man, but with LEDs. Though possibly a robot, as there are no natural components in that bass.

Status basses...the Rise of the Machines?

with that as a leader id be more than happy for the rise of the machines
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