#1
Budget: £500

Genres (bold ones a necessity) : Alt rock, pop, blues, classic rock, hard rock, thrash metal, prog metal. Cleans are needed but do not need to be pristine.

New or Used: Either, but keep in mind my main places to buy from are gumtree and ebay.

Home or gig: Both- around 100-200 person gigs.

Area: London

Current Gear: Squire Strat, Ibanez RG2570mz prestige, fender mustang 1 amp.

Really cannot afford to have anything larger than a 1x12, for portability reasons and space reasons (so cath, please do not post one of your 100 photos of a trolley )
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I have been hearing about MG amps lately. I have heard good about them, but only a few times have they been talked about here.

#2
Peavey Vypyr Tube 60 combo? You're asking a lot for one amp, so I think that might be your best option.
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#3
thanks- i was considering that.
Any views on the traynor ycv50b- i know dave recommends it a lot.
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Quote by Robbgnarly
I have been hearing about MG amps lately. I have heard good about them, but only a few times have they been talked about here.

#4
Quote by randomguy2000
thanks- i was considering that.
Any views on the traynor ycv50b- i know dave recommends it a lot.

It could be OK if you got an extensive pedal board or a good MFX when you want more than the basic tones, IMHO.
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#5
Another vote for Vypyr 60 unless you really need an FX loop and/or don't care for the Vypyr's reverb and delay (they're fine IMO). If you get one, be sure to get one of the Sanpera pedals. I'd say the II for gigging.
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#6
Quote by randomguy2000
thanks- i was considering that.
Any views on the traynor ycv50b- i know dave recommends it a lot.


yeah that's what i was just gonna recommend

i haven't tried the vypyr tube, though, i guess it depends on how much versatility you need.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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#7
$5 bucks say's CaptainAmerican comes on here and recommends the MG.
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#8
On Topic: I have not tried the Traynor or the Vypyr tube, but here's are a couple amps that I HAVE tried and immensely enjoyed:

S.S.:http://acousticamplification.com/products/index.cfm?catid=1&subcatid=6&modid=13&product=G120H%20DSP

Tube: http://acousticamplification.com/products/index.cfm?catid=1&subcatid=6&modid=13&product=GT50H

They are both rather versatile. One is a Solid State and the other is Valve driven, and they both sound good.
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#9
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...a couple amps that I HAVE tried and immensely enjoyed:

S.S.:http://acousticamplification.com/products/index.cfm?catid=1&subcatid=6&modid=13&product=G120H%20DSP

Tube: http://acousticamplification.com/products/index.cfm?catid=1&subcatid=6&modid=13&product=GT50H

They are both rather versatile. One is a Solid State and the other is Valve driven, and they both sound good.


I've only seen these sold by MF & GC. I've only played a few of them, and none that I came accross were tube. I didn't use them enough to formulate an opinion on them....

Are they their house brand like Simmons drums/monitors and Musician's Gear components and accessories? Raven amps used to be their house brand amp, then just as those were disappearing off the GC showroom floors, suddenly a whole row would be dedicated to these Accoustic Amplification amps.


Just wondering...
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#11
JSX maybe?
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#12
Quote by tas38
JSX maybe?


wouldn't be a bad thing. on the cheap are the peavey ultra+s which are earlier stage XXX/JSX. (XXX=now 3120 JSX =XXX2 now).

egnater renegade? would hit thrash with an od and the gain cranked. good for all of the above. i owned one for a while, it wasn't my favorite (only paid $600) so i wasn't complaining, but they are pretty nice and solid. the only thing is that IMMO a lot of the different 'features' are kind of gimmaky.

do you use/like/mind/hate pedals?
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#13
Quote by jetwash69
I've only seen these sold by MF & GC. I've only played a few of them, and none that I came accross were tube. I didn't use them enough to formulate an opinion on them....

Are they their house brand like Simmons drums/monitors and Musician's Gear components and accessories? Raven amps used to be their house brand amp, then just as those were disappearing off the GC showroom floors, suddenly a whole row would be dedicated to these Accoustic Amplification amps.


Just wondering...

Yes it is a house brand, and they are pretty good. I am kind of shocked that your GC doesn't have the Tube tbh . You would think that would be a priority.
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#14
If you can up your budget a touch I'm sure you could get a Bogner Alchemist 112 for about £550 ... assuming you're happy to haggle a little over the phone. I've been using this live for some time and I'm very happy with it.
#15
thanks guys,
used peaveys are quite costly here- I know a jsx would be ideal...
even ultras are costly,
orange is out of my budget,
kind of between the traynor and the vypyr- how are both the amps cleans?
how bout a jcm2000
i do plan on getting a mfx after- probably a g5 but amp comes first.
bogner alchemist would be nice, are they fully tube
i know ug don't like em, but how bout a ht40? i know they aren't fully tube, but...
and cameron, that guy has got to be a troll- he says he has a good knowledge of amps and then reccomends an mg?
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What you really need is a new amp.

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Quote by Robbgnarly
I have been hearing about MG amps lately. I have heard good about them, but only a few times have they been talked about here.

#16
If you can find a local shop which has the spider valve MK2 go give that a try, most people dont put in the time to change the presets so pass it of as sounding bad. But if you take a little time to set it up (all the presets are badly set up & have atrocious volme\master vole configs) and get the FBV floor pedal for it, you can get some real nice tones from it.
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#17
i thought the ycv40's cleans were pretty good, but the 50 uses EL34s and a v30 speaker, neither of which are likely to improve the cleans, so I dunno. I think it's hard to beat the traynor at the price thomann sells it for, but obviously it has to be suitable for what you want it for. I thought it'd do what you want (based on the 40 i tried), but there's no accounting for taste either and that's just my opinion.

i think the alchemist is all-tube but don't quote me on that.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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Presumably because the CCF (Combined Corksniffing Forces) of MLP and Gibson forums would rise up against them, plunging the land into war.

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Et tu, br00tz?
#18
Quote by Maineguitarist
$5 bucks say's CaptainAmerican comes on here and recommends the MG.

youre so mad. Just let it go

but yes i would suggest a marshall mg because it is quite versatile and sound great in my opinion.

although the Peavey Vypyr Tube is also a good option in my opinion
#19
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but yes i would suggest a marshall mg because it is quite versatile and sound great in my opinion.

HA! Pay up f*ckers!
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#20
Quote by Maineguitarist
Yes it is a house brand, and they are pretty good. I am kind of shocked that your GC doesn't have the Tube tbh . You would think that would be a priority.

I've been to around 5 to 8 GCs since then. Maybe they all have the tube model. I didn't notice one there the first time I saw the Acoustics, and I haven't really given them a second look. I might do it next time I'm there. It's neat to see GC/MF improving their house brand products.

As for the MG comments, if CaptainAmerican is sincere about the MG and his experience with other amps, then perhaps he can post a listing of the amps he's owned. Since TS isn't buying the BS, there's no need for me to tell my sad MG tale ITT.
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#21
i wouldn' t mind hearing it anyway
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Quote by Robbgnarly
I have been hearing about MG amps lately. I have heard good about them, but only a few times have they been talked about here.

#22
Quote by randomguy2000
i wouldn' t mind hearing it anyway


Long story short:
1st amp: MG30DFX. Thought it was awesome for about first month. Then heard some good amps and realized I wasted $230. Muddy lows; shrill highs. Even putting it on the clean channel and playing through good MFX didn't help much. Far better off playing the MFX thru a PA, which is what I did until I got an all-tube halfstack.

Only way to make the MG sound good is unplug the speaker from the built in amp, and wire the speaker to a jack so you can use it like a cab for a good head. Then it's not as muddy, and OK up to moderate volumes (105dB or so).

My friend's 15watt Squier starter pack amp sounds better than any MG.

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#23
Bogner Alchemist/JCM800 combo/Laney TT/Gh100;/GH50l/Vhr.

I reckon you could get a GH50/100 and a 1x12 for that money. Be a hell of a nice rig for very little money.

Edit: JCM2000 DSL 50/100 would also be good and pretty versatile.
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#24
Quote by CaptainAmerican
youre so mad. Just let it go

but yes i would suggest a marshall mg because it is quite versatile and sound great in my opinion.
I strongly suggest that you find a good otolaryngologist. Don't delay.


TS: A JCM2000 DSL will do the deed nicely.
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#25
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I strongly suggest that you find a good otolaryngologist. Don't delay.


TS: A JCM2000 DSL will do the deed nicely.

Agreed with both
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