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So I went with my brother to guitar center today because he just needed to pick up a new snare for his drum, and saw this beautiful guitar on the wall. It was an absolutely flawless RG1570MRR and when I say this thing had no imperfections in it, I mean it (the plastic was even still on the back scratch plates). My "new" S prestige had more damage on it when I bought it, and that's saying something as it was almost completely clean when I got it. That said, I plugged it into the 5150 they had at the store and my god, it was like butter. The fret work was perfectly smooth, the neck was as straight as an arrow, and the hardware was all perfect. The electronics were smooth and the pots were noise free. On top of how nice it played, it was loaded with a DiMarzio Crunch Lab in the bridge, a pickup I would've thrown in it anyway, and the back, to my surprise, had a Tremol-no installed, yet another item I would have had to buy that I was planning on doing anyway. This guitar was literally calling my name, loaded with everything I wanted, and I just had to do it. It ended up costing me $699 with the guitar, the original bridge pickup, the Ibanez Prestige J-Craft hardshell, tools, a pack of strings, and obviously the Crunch Lab and the Tremol-no, tax included.

Now onto the sound. It's a Prestige so the build quality is expected, and boy does it sound good. It sustains for days, much more than my S series does, and the note clarity and attack bites a little harder. It has a lot more immediate attack than my S2170FB does and it really shines on the high notes during solos and faster licks. Don't get me wrong, I love the tone of my S as well and while it's different, it's different in a good way. There's a lot of character in this guitar and it just feels great. Besides my S (and a few Music Man's that I've tried), nothing felt so immediately perfect in my hands. I tried it and immediately knew it was perfect for me. It just felt right. I could not be happier with it! But on to why you're here, some good old fashion guitar porn Enjoy!

















And here it is just chilling with it's new friend, my S2170FB.



Thanks for checking it out guys!
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That's just gorgeous man! I always get wet when I see "Prestige" in the title.
And his little brother looks quite sexy too
HNGD!
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Definitely a sexy guitar. I had a Prestige S5470 for a bit, and I much preferred my RG770DX in every way. I don't know which middle pickup your S has, but the one in mine was killing the sustain. I swapped it with the C3 from my RG and it helped the issue quite a bit.

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Quote by W4RP1G
Definitely a sexy guitar. I had a Prestige S5470 for a bit, and I much preferred my RG770DX in every way. I don't know which middle pickup your S has, but the one in mine was killing the sustain. I swapped it with the C3 from my RG and it helped the issue quite a bit.

HNGD!

My middle pickup in the S is just the stock DiMarzio/Ibz that it came with. The only thing I switched out was the bridge pickup. But yeah, a pup swap for the middle single coil is definitely in order for it. I might get a new neck pickup for this RG though, not only just to match the bridge, but because I messed around with a friends guitar that had a Liquifire in it and it was incredibly good.

But yeah, thanks guys! The finish is really something on this guitar and it's really hard to pull off in the pictures where the light isn't exactly as it is normally when you're viewing it. In person, it's a dark black with a slight sparkle to it. Every now and then when the light hits it, you get a hint of almost copper/red shine. It's kind of like that effect that the Ibanez Xyphos had with the Chameleon paint, but much more subtle. It's really a gorgeous finish and overall, I'm in love with the guitar.
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HNGD!!! Damn I kind of want a S2170FB now....
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HNGD!!! Damn I kind of want a S2170FB now....

Haha I love my S2170FB. It's got it's quirks and it isn't perfect (it's Korean, the fretboard radius is mismatched to the bridge, and the hardware finish practically wipes off) but it's gone through a lot with me and it's practically a part of the family to me. Honestly, this new RG actually plays better than my S but the S2170FB is gorgeous, at least in my opinion. Hell, I named it Topanga, and once you name a guitar and refer to it like a person, that's pretty much the point of no return
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HNGD!!! i love my prestiges. nice catch, especially with the CL and tremolno.

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#11
I love it I really need to get me one of these
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HNGD! That CL does look kinda lonely though, a liquifire would be my pickup choice as well to match friend of mine has a JP set in an Ibby S5XE1, its all kinds of awesome
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HNGD! That CL does look kinda lonely though, a liquifire would be my pickup choice as well to match friend of mine has a JP set in an Ibby S5XE1, its all kinds of awesome

Yeah I know, I photoshopped a picture to see what it would look like with another pickup in the same blue color in the neck position and it really finishes the look of the guitar off. I'm just not sure if I want to go with the Liquifire or not. I know that they're meant for each other (the liquifire and the CL that is), but I never got the chance to try the cleans on the neck. I much prefer rhythm to lead stuff when I play and really value a pickup that can clean up and sound pretty warm as opposed to the sterility (due to the hotness) of a lot of solo oriented neck pups. At the same time though, I don't want it to be muddy. Essentially, I want a pickup for a clean channel and a clean tone, not really a smoothed out pickup for distorted leads. I just want to find one that mixes well with the CL (volume wise). I just have no idea what to look for. By all means though, if the CL can stay relatively warm and make a nice clean tone, I'll go for it, because it's distorted lead tones were great.
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Honestly, i prefer the cleans on the fire even more so than the driven sounds (and thats saying alot!) The cleans are crystal clear and have tons of depth to them while not being overly bass heavy, and the high end frequencys really shine while retaining smoothness. The liquifire has a bit of a mid spike to it so it cuts through perfectly and lets every note ring. These are all my opinions though so take em with a grain of salt as you would any other opinions played through a Mesa Roadking II
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Honestly, i prefer the cleans on the fire even more so than the driven sounds (and thats saying alot!) The cleans are crystal clear and have tons of depth to them while not being overly bass heavy, and the high end frequencys really shine while retaining smoothness. The liquifire has a bit of a mid spike to it so it cuts through perfectly and lets every note ring. These are all my opinions though so take em with a grain of salt as you would any other opinions played through a Mesa Roadking II

That actually sounds spot on to what I'm looking for. I want that warmth in my cleans but at the same time I don't want them so bass laden. I still enjoy that somewhat sterile twang that my 5150 seems to create in a desperate attempt for it to pump out a reasonable clean tone. It's almost a glassy kind of feel and, while a lot of people say it's a struggling amps attempt at cleaning up, I like to think of it, and hear it, as a glassy shimmering clean. Think like a periphery clean tone or a teaseract clean. That's what I want to some degree, just a little fuller and with slightly more warmth. Glassy would be how to describe it. The V7 in there now is pretty muddy in that regard.
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Well the depth of the low end is prominent without being overbearing. There is a mid peak i noticed at around 800-1.6k that provided all of the glassy bell-like tone that i would ever need in my cleans personally. The overall tone i would describe in the liquifire was depth with a nice blossom in the upper mids and the high end freqs are very smooth and articulate. If you do end up getting it, you should provide some clips of the cleans through a 5150.
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Nice axe man, i remeber having a 1570 years ago
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Quote by Addonexus408
Well the depth of the low end is prominent without being overbearing. There is a mid peak i noticed at around 800-1.6k that provided all of the glassy bell-like tone that i would ever need in my cleans personally. The overall tone i would describe in the liquifire was depth with a nice blossom in the upper mids and the high end freqs are very smooth and articulate. If you do end up getting it, you should provide some clips of the cleans through a 5150.

Cool man thanks. I'll probably end up going with one, it's just a matter of when, but I'll definitely be posting up some sound clips of it when I do!

I'm going to try and put up a video today on my YouTube account of this guitar, whether it be a cover of a song or a run through, so I'll keep you guys posted. I've already been pretty surprised at the difference tonally that the CL has between my mahogany S and this basswood RG. I actually think I like the CL's bar towards the bridge a little bit more.
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Very nice brotha! Call in sick and rip that thing to shreds all day!
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#23
Love the finish on that!
Not a fan of the pickup cover, though. HNGD!
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Quote by I K0nijn I
Love the finish on that!
Not a fan of the pickup cover, though. HNGD!

Yeah it was weird to me at first too. I still don't understand what possessed the previous owner to drop a bright blue pickup into a black guitar with red accents. It doesn't exactly "match" but it's quirky and it's been growing on me a lot.
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Quote by Krauser
Cool man thanks. I'll probably end up going with one, it's just a matter of when, but I'll definitely be posting up some sound clips of it when I do!

I'm going to try and put up a video today on my YouTube account of this guitar, whether it be a cover of a song or a run through, so I'll keep you guys posted. I've already been pretty surprised at the difference tonally that the CL has between my mahogany S and this basswood RG. I actually think I like the CL's bar towards the bridge a little bit more.

Right on man, sub'd your youtube channel btw sweet playing
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That blue bridge pup <3
Everything about this is orgasmic.
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Dude $699!? How the f did they sell it for that, that's what 1570s go for stock used! Congrats, that's a sick buy
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Right on man, sub'd your youtube channel btw sweet playing

Awesome man, thanks a bunch! Though I had to take down a couple videos (namely covers of In Due Time, Reject Yourself, and World Ablaze by Killswitch) because of copyright nonsense but it's whatever. I still have the files locally and I'm going to start focusing on more original stuff on that channel as opposed to covers anyway. But thanks again for the sub! It means a lot man.

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Dude $699!? How the f did they sell it for that, that's what 1570s go for stock used! Congrats, that's a sick buy

I don't know either... and the thing was brand new too, at least condition wise. Not a single mark or scratch other than the usual clear coat swirls. It was pristine and I just had to jump on it.

Also, I put up a video on my channel of a quick playthrough with it just to give you an idea of it. It's nothing super in depth (it's not mic'd or anything fancy, just recorded with my iPhone) but it gets the general feel and sound across. Mostly though, it's just an excuse to mess around with it on camera and blatantly show it off to the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8VuPyEFPdA
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Welcome to the club, I love my RGR1570. I have not touched any of my other 4 guitars since I got mine over 6 months ago.
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Welcome to the club, I love my RGR1570. I have not touched any of my other 4 guitars since I got mine over 6 months ago.

I actually kind of feel bad because I've been playing this nonstop since I picked it up and it feels like I'm neglecting a child or something by not playing my S Prestige but yeah, I can definitely see why. This particular one plays better than many of the more expensive prestige models I've tried. And the edge pro is great. I'm not big into utilizing floating trems (I get guitars with floyd style bridges because I love the double locking and fine tuning they give you when they're blocked and also love how low profile they are) but I messed with it and it stays in tune under use excellently and the design of the fine tuners and saddles are even comfier than the ZR on my S2170FB.

Also, a little more off topic, but could anyone recommend a good polish for guitars? I'm just looking for something to get a nice shine on the guitar and, more importantly, to get those really light abrasion scratches that show up under certain lighting conditions out of the clear coat. I want to clean up my 2 other RG's that I'm going to be selling as I don't really have a need for them anymore and I might as well clean up this RG1570 while I'm at it (it's got light pick abrasion marks by the pick guard area if it had one).

EDIT: Also, I just noticed that the rail and pole pieces on my CL are chrome, whereas everything I can find for the blue Crunch Labs have them black. Odd... unless it's not a CL and a D Sonic... can anyone confirm before I take it out and check? I don't really care either way because it sounds incredible, but it might explain why it has been so different tonally
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Last edited by Krauser at Mar 22, 2013,
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Meguiars Scratch X is what I use on my guitars. It's a car polish, it works great for any glossy finish and even gets rid of tiny scratches.

About the Trem on the 1570, I am so used to the bridge on mine now that a TOM style bridge feels really weird to me. I am about to sell off some other guitars and get a second prestige, this time a hard tail though.
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Meguiars Scratch X is what I use on my guitars. It's a car polish, it works great for any glossy finish and even gets rid of tiny scratches.

About the Trem on the 1570, I am so used to the bridge on mine now that a TOM style bridge feels really weird to me. I am about to sell off some other guitars and get a second prestige, this time a hard tail though.

Do you just polish the entire guitar with it or do you just get the areas you want the slight abrasions to be removed? And yeah I just don't even bother with TOM style bridges. I can jus never feel comfortable with them and I hate the angle the necks are often at because of them. I'd prefer hard tails almost unanimously but I love the fine tuners.
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Sweet man really sick Axe. Could do without that speedloader though lol better stock up on strings
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Sweet man really sick Axe. Could do without that speedloader though lol better stock up on strings

It's not a speedloader, just a regular old Ibanez Edge Pro. But thanks man!
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