#1
Hey there everyone.

My whole life I've dreamed of getting a splawn quickrod for its gorgeous Overdrive tones. I am almost done saving up for one (about $200 short) and I've stumbled upon the Competition that I could purchase today. I heard its a single channel quickrod with no cleans. I was never interested in using quickrod cleans and would end up using the quickrod gain only.

So my question is... Should I just get the competition and save a few hundred, or should I just go with the quickrod? Any opinions would be very helpful. Thanks!
#2
If your not going to use it then I'd save the cash. I was thinking of the Nitro but then I found the Super Comp 50 KT88. I would totaly save 400 and get it instead
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Well, on the old splawns I'd say sure. The old splawns have super warm cleans that I never really liked. I played the hell out of 311's QR and the gain is amazing, but I didn't really like the cleans. I'd heard the cleans on the newer models are better, but I can't confirm or deny that.

So yeah, I'm pretty much no help, but the quickrod just sounds frickin awesome and I can only imagine the competition does the same. Excellent build quality too.
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#4
I'd say save the cash. Makes perfect sense to me if what you say is true.
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#5
I wasn't crazy about the clean channel on my QR, it was the new updated version too. It didn't sound terrible by any means and was definitely useable, but the volume difference between it and the OD channel was incredible. The clean channel cranked was about as loud as Gear 1 OD1 a third of the way up. Dunno if it was just my amp or what.

On all my other amps the clean and OD channels were a lot closer in potential volume.
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I wasn't crazy about the clean channel on my QR, it was the new updated version too. It didn't sound terrible by any means and was definitely useable, but the volume difference between it and the OD channel was incredible. The clean channel cranked was about as loud as Gear 1 OD1 a third of the way up. Dunno if it was just my amp or what.

On all my other amps the clean and OD channels were a lot closer in potential volume.


Not surprising, we all know what these amps were made for. The clean channel was always an afterthought and I don't think Scott feels too bad about that.
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#8
Thanks everybody! Very interesting to hear that you are still not crazy about the updated clean channel.

Has anyone personally played through a Competition? It seems to be the black sheep of the splawn family.
#9
When you say you've 'almost saved up enough' for a Quick Rod what are you referring to? A new one? I mean if you really do not need a dedicated clean channel then I don't see what the big deal is. The only downside to a Competition that I can think of is that it may be harder to sell later down the road because it is less known and you are stuck with 50 watts.

That said, I run my QR at 50 watts and hardly ever use the clean channel. I run at 50 because that seems to be my happy place AND I don't burn through tubes as fast.

Gregs1020 is the guy who got me turned onto the clean channel that I always ignored before. If you crank up the gain and hit it just right you have a nice happy OD place that is right under Gear 1 gain wise.

Here is purely clean clip he did on my QR with his RV7 reverb pedal that I've since purchased.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10952014/Splawn%20Quick%20Rod%20clean%20by%20Gregs1020.mp3
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#10
311 turned me onto splawn. i have a Promod (as mentioned KT88 as opposed to QR EL34) and a KT88 nitro. i love them both.

i agree that the cleans are a lackluster, but if you get used to rolling the volume back on the guitar's volume knob, it sounds better.

i haven't used the clean channel on either one of them for months.
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^ I need a ProMod. Bigger, tighter low Mids and Lows, and a more in your face high Mids and Treble. Like most EL34s, the QR has a wider Mid range and smoother high Mid and Treble.

I'd go ProMod if you want a more modern tone; but, you can't beat the QR for vintage/classic/dinosaur Rock if you're set on a Splawn.

thrashed, I prefer the EL34s on the Nitro since it's already so in-your-face.
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^ I need a ProMod. Bigger, tighter low Mids and Lows, and a more in your face high Mids and Treble. Like most EL34s, the QR has a wider Mid range and smoother high Mid and Treble.

I'd go ProMod if you want a more modern tone; but, you can't beat the QR for vintage/classic/dinosaur Rock if you're set on a Splawn.

thrashed, I prefer the EL34s on the Nitro since it's already so in-your-face.


yea, but you can always get more face you can get into and more than face, past skin, cartilage bone... but seriously i love my Nitro KT88.

and also will mention that i always run both of mine at 50 watts. KT88's are expensive as hell and i never need more than 50 watts for headroom.

i really like the PM, it gets really heavy as much as you would really need.

+1 but if you are looking for Marshall OD, you want the QR, not the PM. the PM is more modern.
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For the few hundred bucks difference between the two, you could get a good, used amp strictly for cleans and just AB them. You can find used SF Fenders for $400 to $500 all day if you're in the US and near a decent city.
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Personally, I didn't find anything wrong with QR cleans.

That said, I play a single channel JCM800 amp and don't really use cleans.


i actually think the KT88 PM's cleans are a little bit better than the EL34 QR's.

but yea as i said i really don't use it for cleans. i will run an A/B/Y into something else for cleans if i need them likely, my music man.
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Since we're somewhat on the subject of the QR's cleans, FWIW I find that a 12at7 in V1 (or 5751 for that matter) greatly improves the quality of the clean channel, without affecting the OD channel. That, and having a good bias setting.
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I actually have a sound demo of one of the original Quickrods on my profile. The first batch of quickrods didn't have the best clean channel but I was able to get a few decent tones on it. From what I've heard the second series quickrods have a greatly improved clean.

I say save up for the quickrod. If you could find a way to have a clean tone and dirty tone with the competition then that should be fine but I personally couldn't live with an amp not having one.

EDIT: Sorry, I missed the post where you're considering using an ABY pedal. If that's the case you will definitely be fine with the Competition. That $400 could buy you the pedal and get you most of the way to a good clean amp. Maybe a Fender Hotrod or something.

I had the George Lynch Tripler for a while and it had an extremely bad hum to it. I'd probably try it out before you buy it if at all possible.
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When you say you've 'almost saved up enough' for a Quick Rod what are you referring to? A new one? I mean if you really do not need a dedicated clean channel then I don't see what the big deal is. The only downside to a Competition that I can think of is that it may be harder to sell later down the road because it is less known and you are stuck with 50 watts.

That said, I run my QR at 50 watts and hardly ever use the clean channel. I run at 50 because that seems to be my happy place AND I don't burn through tubes as fast.

Gregs1020 is the guy who got me turned onto the clean channel that I always ignored before. If you crank up the gain and hit it just right you have a nice happy OD place that is right under Gear 1 gain wise.

Here is purely clean clip he did on my QR with his RV7 reverb pedal that I've since purchased.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10952014/Splawn%20Quick%20Rod%20clean%20by%20Gregs1020.mp3

I'm talking used. Years back I'd see Quickrods go for $1200 at GC and on the Bay. Not so much anymore. They are at about $1400 minimum lately. I am surprised by the clean channel, a bit better than other clips I've heard. However, I think my Marshall Vintage Modern has got me set on the plexi-like cleans for the time being. I just don't have a use for a clean channel on the Splawn. I want it for pure rock n' roll.

I bit the bullet on a Competition yesterday. Heard an awesome "brown sound" clip yesterday and couldn't wait any longer. Can't wait to show it to you all!
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