#1
What I would like:

Superstrat
24 frets
HSS
Floyd Rose (preferably a genuine one)
No scratchplate
Comfortable neck joint

For under 1000gbp would be cool and i'd definitely go used

i don't have to spend all of it (i'd rather keep it under 500 tbh) but i don't want a piece of shit either

thanks
#2
You actually planning on buying this soon or the distant future?


Before I go trawling through eBay.

1977 Burny FLG70
2004 EBMM JP6
2016 SE Holcolmb
#4

1977 Burny FLG70
2004 EBMM JP6
2016 SE Holcolmb
Last edited by Tom 1.0 at Mar 26, 2013,
#6
You could try having a look at the LTD by ESP M series, MH series and H series, all superstrats all 24 fret and a whole shed load if options depending on price bracket.
#7
I was thinking the same thing as N1ghtmar3C1n3ma, you sould go try out some LTD's, they seem like they fit your description perfectly. In addition to what he was saying, you might also be interested in the KH (Kirk Hammett) signature series.
Last edited by seamil at Mar 27, 2013,
#8
Quote by Way Cool JR.
They don't really have anything that fits what TS is looking for, at-least not in an HSS config. I'm speaking for new models, there could be some old discontinued models. Not a fan of LTD's so I don't know.


Yeah, I just checked and it looks like you're right. All the HSS LTD's are way below his price range and probably woundn't do him any good. I saw the chaper ones, and figured they must have more expensive counterparts, but it looks like I was wrong.
#9
Quote by Tom 1.0

Not really feeling any of those. Thanks for trying though.


Quote by N1ghtmar3C1n3ma
You could try having a look at the LTD by ESP M series, MH series and H series, all superstrats all 24 fret and a whole shed load if options depending on price bracket.


I do like the look of the MH 103qm

but I don't think the quality of the guitar would be up to the standard of what i'm looking for.
#12
Quote by So-Cal
Oh wow.

These look very nice for the price.

Do you own one or have you ever played one?


I don't own one, because I'm not really a super strat kind of guy, but I have been temped to buy one just to have one. I have 7 classic-style Strats, which is pretty ridiculous.

If you do a Google search for that model, you'll find some threads from owners who are quite happy with them.

It was also given an Editor's Pick Award by Guitar Player in 2011.

They praised it again in 2012:
"Bottom Line This guitar looks great with its flamed maple top and flawless amberburst finish. Excellent neck and setup. Floyd Rose trem is well implemented. 5-way switching offers lots of happening sounds. Incredible bargain."
Last edited by peskypesky at Mar 27, 2013,
#13
Quote by peskypesky
I don't own one, because I'm not really a super strat kind of guy, but I have been temped to buy one just to have one. I have 7 classic-style Strats, which is pretty ridiculous.

If you do a Google search for that model, you'll find some threads from owners who are quite happy with them.

It was also given an Editor's Pick Award by Guitar Player in 2011.

They praised it again in 2012:
"Bottom Line This guitar looks great with its flamed maple top and flawless amberburst finish. Excellent neck and setup. Floyd Rose trem is well implemented. 5-way switching offers lots of happening sounds. Incredible bargain."

hmm very tempted
#14
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Mar 27, 2013,
#15
Have you looked at Charvel guitars? The San Dimas or So-Cal models come in HSS and are amazing guitars if you can find one used. What type of music do you play? It would help us know what to look for.
Quote by timbit2006
Probably right around $3000 Canadian(We have to pay a lot more for some stupid reason...).

Quote by RealGuitarHero
Because of the French.


so true
#16
I just spent an hour composing the perfect post for this thread and it disappeared.

**** this bullshit.
#17
OK......still sucks the lost time but.....

Of all the superstrats listed, there is much more difference in pricing than actual guitar construction and I'll bet more than a few were manufactured at the same factory in korea, china, indonesia, india....etc....with the better ones being manufactured in japan.

The japanese craftsmen are super serious about the quality of thier work and will defend this quality with thier entire being because many believe thier work is tied in with honor.............and we all know how seriously they take the topic of honor.

An example of this is found in Jim Moran's biography.

He was there at the beginning of toyota entering the US market and is largely responsible for both toyota's surge in market share from the late 1960s and early 1970s to the present. He also suggested a high line car on a trip to japan in the early 1980s that resulted in Lexus.

He was on a tour of the toyota factory in the early 1970s with the president of toyota being his guide when the president suddenly had to leave right away on an emergency.

The president returned two hours later with an expression of relief on his face and explained that the oldest employee on the assembly line had broken the first windshield in his entier career that spanned back over 25 years and had run home to commit ritual suicide.

After some pleading, the president convinced him his honor was unaffected by his single mistake and got him to return to the factory rather than let him take a day off........which could be construed as punishment in japan.

I'm not sure how serious the other asian countries take the quality of thier work but this speaks volumes for japanese quality.........back then.......I don't know if things have changed or not in the 2000+ date but know that much production of name brand guitars made in japan has been switched over to the above mentioned countries.

Note the large spike in prices of 1980s japanese made guitars like kramer focus, aria pro, and older ibanez vs later korean and chinese pricing not moving up much at all.

Many people's coveted "american guitars" were manufactured by Fujigen including gibsons, epiphone, fender squire, yamaha, ibanez and probably a few others.

This is why many ibanez RG series guitars have twin brothers in the yamaha lineup under RGX naming with minor differences in headstock shape and other details though I believe the wizard necks to be unique to ibanez......might be wrong.

The ibanez RG models that resemble yamaha guitars also closely resemble fender stagemaster/showmaster and a bunch of other floyd equipped superstrats.......because they did come from the same assembly line in japan.

With much of the superstrat production being moved to first korea and then taiwan, china, indonesia, and india, it gets a bit muddier but you can easily see many similarities between LTD, Kramer, Ibanez, ......some with identical body shapes whether neck-thru or bolt-on.

You can include Xaviere in that category.

My musicyo kramer neck thru has the exact same body shape front and rear as the Xaviere pictured above with only the control locations being slightly different.

I also noticed the offset screws in the rear tremolo cavity cover mimicing some earlier kramers though mine has even holes.

The biggest differences are in the vendor of the electronics and hardware which determines quality of said hardware independant of the quality of the body/neck.

If you do the research and look at the pictures (and comments of quality, good or bad), you will begin to see just how close many are to each other.

Know that the quality of the "rigging" will be down to the individual who put it together more than the factory itself if made outside of japan so a blanket statement on quality does not apply.

You might find a musicyo kramer made better than a LTD or vice versa.

This makes buying a guitar you have never seen in person hit or miss.

If Xaviere makes the guitar you need for the price and quality point you desire, there really is no need to spend more to get what might be the exact same guitar from another vendor.

The water is very muddy but I'm sure someone here knows exactly who made what.......... and where they made it.

DO THE PROPER AMOUNT OF RESEARCH AND GET YOUR HANDS ON THE CANDIDATES BEFORE BUYING.

If you want guaranteed good quality and something nobody else has in america, look at FGN (fujigen) and "combat guitars".

I have no idea on pricing but they have some beautiful as well as equally garish and downright ugly guitars in thier product lines but you can assure yourself they take quality seriously.

Japanese guitar porn.

Strange, but cool from combat guitars.

http://www.combat-guitars.com/english/top.html



A sweet fujigen.

Scroll to the bottom and check out "specialists" for bios on some of thier workers.

http://www.fgnguitars.com/



And a random cute chick effortlessly shredding with the added bonus of an onboard kaossiliator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_lcnUixrU
Last edited by HowlerMonkey at Mar 28, 2013,
#18
Quote by HowlerMonkey
OK......still sucks the lost time but.....

Of all the superstrats listed, there is much more difference in pricing than actual guitar construction and I'll bet more than a few were manufactured at the same factory in korea, china, indonesia, india....etc....with the better ones being manufactured in japan.

The japanese craftsmen are super serious about the quality of thier work and will defend this quality with thier entire being because many believe thier work is tied in with honor.............and we all know how seriously they take the topic of honor.

An example of this is found in Jim Moran's biography.

He was there at the beginning of toyota entering the US market and is largely responsible for both toyota's surge in market share from the late 1960s and early 1970s to the present. He also suggested a high line car on a trip to japan in the early 1980s that resulted in Lexus.

He was on a tour of the toyota factory in the early 1970s with the president of toyota being his guide when the president suddenly had to leave right away on an emergency.

The president returned two hours later with an expression of relief on his face and explained that the oldest employee on the assembly line had broken the first windshield in his entier career that spanned back over 25 years and had run home to commit ritual suicide.

After some pleading, the president convinced him his honor was unaffected by his single mistake and got him to return to the factory rather than let him take a day off........which could be construed as punishment in japan.

I'm not sure how serious the other asian countries take the quality of thier work but this speaks volumes for japanese quality.........back then.......I don't know if things have changed or not in the 2000+ date but know that much production of name brand guitars made in japan has been switched over to the above mentioned countries.

Note the large spike in prices of 1980s japanese made guitars like kramer focus, aria pro, and older ibanez vs later korean and chinese pricing not moving up much at all.

Many people's coveted "american guitars" were manufactured by Fujigen including gibsons, epiphone, fender squire, yamaha, ibanez and probably a few others.

This is why many ibanez RG series guitars have twin brothers in the yamaha lineup under RGX naming with minor differences in headstock shape and other details though I believe the wizard necks to be unique to ibanez......might be wrong.

The ibanez RG models that resemble yamaha guitars also closely resemble fender stagemaster/showmaster and a bunch of other floyd equipped superstrats.......because they did come from the same assembly line in japan.

With much of the superstrat production being moved to first korea and then taiwan, china, indonesia, and india, it gets a bit muddier but you can easily see many similarities between LTD, Kramer, Ibanez, ......some with identical body shapes whether neck-thru or bolt-on.

You can include Xaviere in that category.

My musicyo kramer neck thru has the exact same body shape front and rear as the Xaviere pictured above with only the control locations being slightly different.

I also noticed the offset screws in the rear tremolo cavity cover mimicing some earlier kramers though mine has even holes.

The biggest differences are in the vendor of the electronics and hardware which determines quality of said hardware independant of the quality of the body/neck.

If you do the research and look at the pictures (and comments of quality, good or bad), you will begin to see just how close many are to each other.

Know that the quality of the "rigging" will be down to the individual who put it together more than the factory itself if made outside of japan so a blanket statement on quality does not apply.

You might find a musicyo kramer made better than a LTD or vice versa.

This makes buying a guitar you have never seen in person hit or miss.

If Xaviere makes the guitar you need for the price and quality point you desire, there really is no need to spend more to get what might be the exact same guitar from another vendor.

The water is very muddy but I'm sure someone here knows exactly who made what.......... and where they made it.

DO THE PROPER AMOUNT OF RESEARCH AND GET YOUR HANDS ON THE CANDIDATES BEFORE BUYING.

If you want guaranteed good quality and something nobody else has in america, look at FGN (fujigen) and "combat guitars".

I have no idea on pricing but they have some beautiful as well as equally garish and downright ugly guitars in thier product lines but you can assure yourself they take quality seriously.

Japanese guitar porn.

Strange, but cool from combat guitars.

http://www.combat-guitars.com/english/top.html



A sweet fujigen.

Scroll to the bottom and check out "specialists" for bios on some of thier workers.

http://www.fgnguitars.com/



And a random cute chick effortlessly shredding with the added bonus of an onboard kaossiliator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2_lcnUixrU

That's great. Very informative.
#19
If you want guaranteed good quality and something nobody else has in america, look at FGN (fujigen) and "combat guitars".


No knock on Fujijen or Combat, etc., you can find high-quality and unusual guitars made in Canada and the USA. No need to cross the Pacific in search of quality.

Besides companies offering highly customizable guitars, like Carvin or US Masters, here are literally hundreds if not thousands of luthiers all over North America, with prices ranging from $1000 to $20k+.
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!
Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Mar 28, 2013,
#20
Ibanez Prestige? They come in a bunch of pickup configurations, HSS being one of them.
#21
Wasn't so much saying you have to go to japan but rather showing that you can get an sweet guitar that nobody has heard of............if you can find a way to get one.

My brain hurts.
#22
Yeah...it helps if you know a guy- and I do- but even so, they're not what you'd call competitively priced! The Japanese sometimes seem a little bit over proud of their craftsmanship.

Part of it is tariffs. Part of it is cultural.

(Not that any of it will stop me from owning a Japanese guitar in my future...)
Sturgeon's 2nd Law, a.k.a. Sturgeon's Revelation: “Ninety percent of everything is crap.”

Why, yes, I am a lawyer- thanks for asking!

Log off and play yer guitar!

Strap on, tune up, rock out!