#1
Hi!
Wondering if the standard 9v AC/DC wall adapter will be enough power.
I have several new foot stompbox effects pedals arriving soon:

* Korg GT-120 Tuner Pedal ~ Chromatic with VU Meter
* ISP Decimator or Boss NS-2 ~ Noise Reduction/Suppression Pedal
* Dunlop GCB95 CryBaby Wah Wah
* MXR Dunlop M-115 Distortion Pedal
* "Possible" ToyRoom Overdrive Pedal
* Boss TR-2 Tremolo Pedal
* DigiTech Hardwire DL-8 Delay Pedal

If I daisy chain all seven pedals from one typical 9v AC/DC power adapter,
. . . the type of adapter that's recommended/supplied for normal stompboxes ~

QUESTION: IS the 9v adapter strong enough or powerful enough for all seven pedals???

Or, should I use a 33% more powerful 12v power supply adapter.
33% more voltage than most pedal manufacturers recommend? . . . .
or, is 12v GOOD or BAD for all seven pedals?
or will 12v ruin my investment, BLOW-UP and A-BOMB my CITY


What do you do?
What would you do?
What works or is a bad idea?

Thanks. Toppscore



Last edited by Toppscore at Mar 28, 2013,
#2
Have you tried asking in the Pit? You got on well there.

No, a 9v will not be enough. Get 2 or a Voodoo Lab.

Can that be the thread now?
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Last edited by Mephaphil at Mar 28, 2013,
#3
Many pedals need more CURRENT, not voltage. All the increased voltage would do is either increase headroom on the pedal or blow them up (a pedal should be specced so close to 9v that 12v should damage it but you never know)
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#4
I loled @ "AC/DC adapter"
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Aw yeah.
#5
Quote by Mephaphil
Have you tried asking in the Pit? You got on well there.
No, a 9v will not be enough. Get 2 or a Voodoo Lab. Can that be the thread now?



Thanks. Need to look at things if I really need two adapters. Much appreciated.
This thread is going to lead to amps to push voltage, and maybe there are
correct single pedal power adapters to use. I see tons of pictures of pedalboards
loaded with 15(+) pedals and stompboxes. Gotta figure out what they use.
Much appreciated.


***Also, The Pit is for fun. GG&A is serious
#6
Quote by GABarrie
Many pedals need more CURRENT, not voltage. All the increased voltage would do is either increase headroom on the pedal or blow them up (a pedal should be specced so close to 9v that 12v should damage it but you never know)



Thanks. By current, I am assuming you mean more amps, right?
Can you suggest a normal power adapter guitarist use with multiple pedals/stompboxes?
Should I get one of those "power bricks I have seen on EBay?

Thank you. Toppscore
#8
Quote by Toppscore
Hi!
Wondering if the standard 9v DC wall adapter will be enough power.


i would not get too creative or imaginative. each one of those pedals should provide the desired operational voltage they need to operate at. use that voltage.


Quote by Toppscore
I have several new foot stompbox effects pedals arriving soon:

* Korg GT-120 Tuner Pedal ~ Chromatic with VU Meter
* ISP Decimator or Boss NS-2 ~ Noise Reduction/Suppression Pedal
* Dunlop GCB95 CryBaby Wah Wah
* MXR Dunlop M-115 Distortion Pedal
* "Possible" ToyRoom Overdrive Pedal
* Boss TR-2 Tremolo Pedal
* DigiTech Hardwire DL-8 Delay Pedal


i think all those run off std 9V negative center power supplies

Quote by Toppscore
If I daisy chain all seven pedals from one typical 9v DC power adapter,
. . . the type of adapter that's recommended/supplied for normal stompboxes ~

QUESTION: IS the 9v adapter strong enough or powerful enough for all seven pedals???


get knowledgeable

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1595013

What do you do?
What would you do?
What works or is a bad idea?

it's super easy. find the specs of you pedals then either:
-run them off batteries
-run them off wall warts (like a Boss PSA-120)
-run them off a daisy chain (like a One Spot)
-run them from a badass isolated power supply (like a voodoo labs PP2+)

that is pretty much all your options for standard pedals. some pedals come with a power cable hardwired and you don't have an option.

each method has it's merits, i run an isolated power supply and i have wall warts.
punk isn't dead, it's always smelled that way.

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#9
Quote by Toppscore
You are right.
My bad.
I type what my head bangs out

Technically, you wrote it right, it does transform alternating current into direct current... It's just I never saw it written like that
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#10
Quote by TheNameOfNoone
Technically, you wrote it right, it does transform alternating current into direct current... It's just I never saw it written like that


technically he wrote it wrong. to be interpreted like you are saying he'd have to have written it:

120V AC to 9V DC adapter.
punk isn't dead, it's always smelled that way.

"A perfection of means, and confusion of aims, seems to be our main problem."
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#11
Quote by gumbilicious
i would not get too creative or imaginative. each one of those pedals should provide the desired operational voltage they need to operate at. use that voltage.
i think all those run off std 9V negative center power supplies
get knowledgeable
https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1595013It's super easy. find the specs of you pedals then either:
-run them off batteries
-run them off wall warts (like a Boss PSA-120)
-run them off a daisy chain (like a One Spot)
-run them from a badass isolated power supply (like a voodoo labs PP2+)



Gumbilicious. Thanks so much. Maybe I miscommunicated. Sorry.

I have the above seven pedals. No desire to use batteries.
Will all seven pedals daisy chained from one 9v power adapter work? work poorly? work great?

Do I need to add more power supplies? Do I need a pedal power block?

OK. Hope I am more clear.


Thanks again. Toppscore



#12
Seriously?
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#13
Quote by TheNameOfNoone
Technically, you wrote it right, it does transform alternating current into direct current... It's just I never saw it written like that



Thanks, NameNoone!

Darn it. Maybe I should not believe everything strangers tell me
OK.
Thought wall AC to anything guitar/preamp/effects was usually converted to DC.

I will edit again.
Take care. Toppscore



#14
So you say something wrong (fair enough) and then edit it out when someone tells you that you're wrong?

This guy, honestly.
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Go ahead and spend your money, I don't care. It won't make you sound better.


Quote by Shredwizard445
Sure upgrading your gear will make you sound better.


#15
Quote by Toppscore
Gumbilicious. Thanks so much. Maybe I miscommunicated. Sorry.


you are not miscommunicating, you just aren't doing much research before you are asking questions, so you questions are sorta off mark cuz you don't know the scope of the problem.

Quote by Toppscore
I have the above seven pedals. No desire to use batteries.


so you have 3 options left.

-individual wall warts: take up a lot of space and can be expensive when you start needing a lot of them. i still power many pedals (like my moogs and HOG) from their normal wall warts cuz the barells/polarity/voltage is strange on it and i don't have the adapter for it.

-daisy chain design: something like the One Spot is about the size of a normal 9V power supply but can supply like 7 or 8 pedals of power. they can get noisy when they react with certain pedals (or combinations of pedals).

-power brick design: similar to a daisy chain except there is generally isolated outputs (takes care of that noise problem from above) and they also have more options for powering (like 12V options, sag options, AC options). they cost more than daisy chains

Quote by Toppscore
Will all seven pedals daisy chained from one 9v power adapter work? work poorly? work great?


i am not looking up all those pedals and spec'ing them to find out. if you want it to work right and work well, then get a brick.

most likely a One Spot (definitely two of them) could power all those pedals. i can't tell you how noisy they would be though.
punk isn't dead, it's always smelled that way.

"A perfection of means, and confusion of aims, seems to be our main problem."
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#16
Quote by gumbilicious
technically he wrote it wrong. to be interpreted like you are saying he'd have to have written it: 120V AC to 9V DC adapter.



You took the words out of my mouth.

Dang. In the USA it's AC house current line voltage
striving to be ported out those ugly wall wort plugs.

. . . . . and us Americanos need an AC/DC converter to deliver direct current
to many types of electrical items which can also run on batteries & sunshine


OK. You know what I am seeking.
Do I need one typical 9v power adapter
or two adapters
or a power block designed for pedal boards.


. . . . the way I overload AC wall plugs is exactly the way
I'd probably overload the typical poor little ol' 9v power adapter



Last edited by Toppscore at Mar 28, 2013,
#17
Quote by Mephaphil
So you say something wrong (fair enough) and then edit it out when someone tells you that you're wrong? This guy, honestly.



Yes! Simply cleaning up a "correction in waiting".
Don't want to eternally be recorded uncorrected
Last edited by Toppscore at Mar 28, 2013,
#18
Quote by Toppscore

Yes! Simply cleaning up a "correction in waiting".
Don't want to be eternally be recorded uncorrected


Now that you've learned to edit posts, perhaps you might learn to nest and delete?

It's your thread and all, but billboarding is bad form.
“Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”
Charles Darwin
#19
Quote by gumbilicious
you are not miscommunicating, you just aren't doing much research before you are asking questions, so you questions are sorta off mark cuz you don't know the scope of the problem. so you have 3 options left.
-individual wall warts: take up a lot of space and can be expensive when you start needing a lot of them. i still power many pedals (like my moogs and HOG) from their normal wall warts cuz the barells/polarity/voltage is strange on it and i don't have the adapter for it.
-daisy chain design: something like the One Spot is about the size of a normal 9V power supply but can supply like 7 or 8 pedals of power. they can get noisy when they react with certain pedals (or combinations of pedals).
-power brick design: similar to a daisy chain except there is generally isolated outputs (takes care of that noise problem from above) and they also have more options for powering (like 12V options, sag options, AC options). they cost more than daisy chains

i am not looking up all those pedals and spec'ing them to find out. if you want it to work right and work well, then get a brick. most likely a One Spot (definitely two of them) could power all those pedals. i can't tell you how noisy they would be though.
Gumbilicious ~ extreme awesome answer. Thanks.
Probably all seven require 9v adapters. No need to research.
These are normal pedal effects.

I have researched many powered pedalboards.
I have seen pedalboards advertised with a ton of pedals, but none-have cables attached.
Just that look for advertising.


Just could not find the answer to my questions.
I have purchased three different 5-8 pedal daisy chain cables. So, I am read there.
One five-daisy-chain cable comes with a power supply which claims to manage five pedals.
But, am asking if a single 9v adapter is really enough???

I'm willing to purchase those power brick with multiple 9v ports.
I'm willing to purchase powered pedal boards that are designed to manage multiple effects pedals.


But, simply wondering what is used when a chain of seven pedals
are not attached to a pedal board . . . .
1) one 9v adapter
2) a power block

Therefore, I'll see about the power brick. Probably the best solution.
I do understand the "1-Spot" approach of a small power adapter with a daisy chain.
And I understand the "power-block" product with several ports for individual pedals.


OK. Thanks for your great comments. Much appreciated.
Toppscore



Last edited by Toppscore at Mar 28, 2013,
#20
Quote by Arby911
Now that you've learned to edit posts, perhaps you might learn to nest and delete? It's your thread and all, but billboarding is bad form.


Do not understand the terms. "nest and delete" or "billboarding".

Thanks for getting me up-to-speed. Toppscore
#21
Quote by Toppscore
But, am asking if a single 9v adapter is really enough???


We've already told you how to figure that out. Spec the pedals you're looking at and see if the 9v adapter you're looking at can provide enough current.
I don't give a shit if you listen to me or not
#22
Quote by Kevin Saale
We've already told you how to figure that out. Spec the pedals you're looking at and see if the 9v adapter you're looking at can provide enough current.


+1

we already told you how to find out what you need. add all your current draws together to find out if it's under the mA rating on the supply. then you'll need to go through all the pedal's other specs and see if they match.
punk isn't dead, it's always smelled that way.

"A perfection of means, and confusion of aims, seems to be our main problem."
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#23
It's funny because it's just addition.

Just do addition, Toppscore, you'll get it. Maybe.
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Go ahead and spend your money, I don't care. It won't make you sound better.


Quote by Shredwizard445
Sure upgrading your gear will make you sound better.


#24
Quote by Mephaphil
It's funny because it's just addition.

Just do addition, Toppscore, you'll get it. Maybe.


you guys should just grudge**** and get it over with.
punk isn't dead, it's always smelled that way.

"A perfection of means, and confusion of aims, seems to be our main problem."
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#25
Nah, I don't mind him really. I'm pretty sure he's trolling us.

I'm just playing along.
Quote by Shredwizard445
Go ahead and spend your money, I don't care. It won't make you sound better.


Quote by Shredwizard445
Sure upgrading your gear will make you sound better.


#26
Quote by Mephaphil
Nah, I don't mind him really. I'm pretty sure he's trolling us.

I'm just playing along.

a troll isn't a troll without the audience. we have to play our parts.

i would have payed to see a good ol' fashioned grudgie though.
punk isn't dead, it's always smelled that way.

"A perfection of means, and confusion of aims, seems to be our main problem."
-ae
#27
Well, if you're paying...
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Go ahead and spend your money, I don't care. It won't make you sound better.


Quote by Shredwizard445
Sure upgrading your gear will make you sound better.


#28
oh i can pay. i got the camera and astroglide too
punk isn't dead, it's always smelled that way.

"A perfection of means, and confusion of aims, seems to be our main problem."
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#30
You guys are no phreekin' phunn.
Add what, the milliamps?



Believe me, I'm worse than a blonde when it comes to this crud.
Typically, I just load everything from one wall socket and not worry.
But this is my first group of pedals and I really don't want to blow-up
the neighborhood.

Personally, I bet one freaking 9v power adapter pushing the listed seven pedals
will work. I bet. When they all arrive, will report.

Also, I'll bet that all of them are 9v plugs. The wah is 9v.
#31
You need to learn the difference between voltage and current. Look up Ohm's law on wikipedia.
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#32
Quote by NakedInTheRain
forget it guys. he wants to be spoon fed everything. i have serious doubts towards his definition of research.
Naked: Spoon fed???

But, I gotta admire you. You are The Trollers' Trolling Troll!
Keep on Trollin' . . . .

This is what forums are for ~ to get help.
Look up everything?
Research everything?
You gotta be crazy.
WTF is your issue? Where do you get your opinions? Thought?

Don't come to the freakin' thread and NOT contribute.
You just add your little tid-bit observation.

There are 60 million threads. Why not go where you are wanted?
I don't want advice from anyone who doesn't want to offer.
You offer nothing but still deliver bitterness.

There are 3 million users, and most love to help out.
Why are you so angry and critical?

You wanna "research" and "hunt" for everything? Yeah, sure.

It's unbelievable how most contributors are awesome,
yet the same five or six members constantly show up and
tell people how to do a thread or how to post or how to use bold
or how to use similies or how to use colors or how to ask questions
or this or that. Get a pheekin' life.
I am going to start a trollers thread just for you complainers.


Geeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Wank!

Read and contribute or phreekin' read and move on.
WTF ~ why do you add comments that are as bad as you look???

Amazing. You must hit EVERY forum and EVERY thread? All day at home.
Riding the couch in your underwear with pretzels between you toes.
You must not have a phreekin' life. Must be bored.


So, go ahead and tell other posters in this thread how I do not need help.
Think. Whoever starts a thread, has a reason to make the effort.
If you do not like it, move on. Why bring others down?
Maybe "perfect" you knows amps ohms voltage wattage or whatever.
Good for you. So, I know less. Go research on how to be
a polite, understanding, considerate blah blah blah blah.
Oh, yeah. You know it all

There is no way anyone will research everything when there are
those who share and are appreciated and willing to help out.


Go research yourself and report right back to me


Anyway, at least you know I love you
Please dump some more crap so I will know you are near.


Actually, this is great


OK. I shed some tears.

Now, Naked. Tell me all about your pedalboard power and your ability
to add up milliamps and how you insure all is well in ol' spoon fed Nakedville.
Thanks. Much appreciated.

I'm off to go plug in some pedals
Last edited by Toppscore at Mar 28, 2013,
#33
wait, whats the difference between 9v and like 240v? my power in my house is 240v? why is the pedal only 9v?
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#34
Quote by Toppscore
Naked: Spoon fed???

But, I gotta admire you. You are The Trollers' Trolling Troll!
Keep on Trollin' . . . .

This is what forums are for ~ to get help.
Look up everything?
Research everything?
You gotta be crazy.
WTF is your issue? Where do you get your opinions? Thought?

Don't come to the freakin' thread and NOT contribute.
You just add your little tid-bit observation.

There are 60 million threads. Why not go where you are wanted?
I don't want advice from anyone who doesn't want to offer.
You offer nothing but still deliver bitterness.

There are 3 million users, and most love to help out.
Why are you so angry and critical?

You wanna "research" and "hunt" for everything? Yeah, sure.

It's unbelievable how most contributors are awesome,
yet the same five or six members constantly show up and
tell people how to do a thread or how to post or how to use bold
or how to use similies or how to use colors or how to ask questions
or this or that. Get a pheekin' life.
I am going to start a trollers thread just for you complainers.


Geeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Wank!

Read and contribute or phreekin' read and move on.
WTF ~ why do you add comments that are as bad as you look???

Amazing. You must hit EVERY forum and EVERY thread? All day at home.
Riding the couch in your underwear with pretzels between you toes.
You must not have a phreekin' life. Must be bored.


So, go ahead and tell other posters in this thread how I do not need help.
Think. Whoever starts a thread, has a reason to make the effort.
If you do not like it, move on. Why bring others down?
Maybe "perfect" you knows amps ohms voltage wattage or whatever.
Good for you. So, I know less. Go research on how to be
a polite, understanding, considerate blah blah blah blah.
Oh, yeah. You know it all

There is no way anyone will research everything when there are
those who share and are appreciated and willing to help out.


Go research yourself and report right back to me


Anyway, at least you know I love you
Please dump some more crap so I will know you are near.


Actually, this is great


OK. I shed some tears.

Now, Naked. Tell me all about your pedalboard power and your ability
to add up milliamps and how you insure all is well in ol' spoon fed Nakedville.
Thanks. Much appreciated.

I'm off to go plug in some pedals

Can you please repost this in bold and blue font? I nearly missed it the first time.
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#35
Toppscore, you really have to stop making these threads. People are giving you a hard time because you're doing zero research and asking ridiculous questions. It's ok to not know things but you've got to slow down with all of these mile long threads where you ask for an answer and then ignore the answers you get.