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I've got a strat with an SSS route, but I like to play metal. are there any stacked/single coil sized humbuckers that aren't too pricey? I'd like something that's a little hotter, but with some low-end too.
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its all about amp son.
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its all about amp son.

Nope. Then no one would care about pickups.

What is "too pricey?" SD Hot Rails and JB Jr. and DiMarzio Fast Track and The Chopper come to mind.
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its all about amp son.

I have the high gain amp, I just want the guitar to be a little hotter, I have a guitar with humbuckers and it does what I want. I just want the guitar to be a little hotter and less bright.
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amp comes first and then pickups.
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What is "too pricey?" SD Hot Rails and JB Jr. and DiMarzio Fast Track and The Chopper come to mind.

I'm thinking I wouldn't like to go very far from the 120-150 range for the set.
Those hot rails do look tempting though, and dave murray is one of my favorite guitarists.

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amp comes first and then pickups.

I just droppped $850 on a JCM900 and a set of tubes a couple months ago, I think I'm set for a while.
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Dimarzio Super Distortion S, maybe even a Tone Zone S

Those are both full sized humbuckers.

EDIT: Withdrawn, I didn't see the S suffix.
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Why not get a HSS strat?
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Check under your pickguard - is it an SSS routing, or a swimming pool routing?

If it's the latter, you can put whatever you want in it and just get a new pickguard routed however you want for $20 tops.
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Check under your pickguard - is it an SSS routing, or a swimming pool routing?

If it's the latter, you can put whatever you want in it and just get a new pickguard routed however you want for $20 tops.

It's in the OP, that was one of the first things I checked.

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Because I'm broke and this was in my price range... $20
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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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Quote by Viban
It's in the OP, that was one of the first things I checked.


Oh, I misinterpreted. I read that just as it was an SSS Strat. My mistake.

So then, there are a few SC sized HBs out there. What sounds are you trying to get specifically? Bands/songs?
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check out www.guitarfetish.com I have their Lil Puncher set for tele and it is a good set for $50ish (They also have a set for Strats) these are comperable to SD Hot Rails and the entire set is the price of one SD pickup
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If you have the cash I really think the tone zone single coil sized humbucker is the best. For fattening up a strat. It's the one with rails. Awesome pickup
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Oh, I misinterpreted. I read that just as it was an SSS Strat. My mistake.

So then, there are a few SC sized HBs out there. What sounds are you trying to get specifically? Bands/songs?

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check out www.guitarfetish.com I have their Lil Puncher set for tele and it is a good set for $50ish (They also have a set for Strats) these are comperable to SD Hot Rails and the entire set is the price of one SD pickup


That sounds perfect, I liked the hotrails, just not the pricetage, thanks mate.
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You could get a used Duncan Designed Hotrail version, seen plenty of them about and they go cheap.
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Dude, just get a Boss MT-2 pedal. <$100 anywhere and everywhere and they sound awesome.

Especially on single coils! Great suggestion!
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Well, you could go the s/c sized humbucker route like a Hot Rails or you could get really hot s/c's. The Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound is extremely hot (13K with crazy big and powerful magnets) and very fat, almost P90'ish.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/82

I have one in my tele. I'm playing slide on it, so not metal, but I do sometimes play slide on the hot channel of my amp (think mesa Mk2) and the thing just growls. If you actually want to do a s/c metal thing I'd go straight for the quarter pounder. Tony Iommi uses P90 and you'll get damn close with the QP. Slightly different tone but the same brutality.


Edit: But really, it's mostly about the amp. Use the wrong amp and it won't matter wtf pickups you have. Get the right amp and it hardly matters what pickups you have.
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I played metal from on a danelectro for years and I have seen metal players use strats a few times its not at all impossible. You might want a noise suppressor and add a little bit extra from a boost though.
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Well, you could go the s/c sized humbucker route like a Hot Rails or you could get really hot s/c's. The Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound is extremely hot (13K with crazy big and powerful magnets) and very fat, almost P90'ish.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/comparetones/view/82

I have one in my tele. I'm playing slide on it, so not metal, but I do sometimes play slide on the hot channel of my amp (think mesa Mk2) and the thing just growls. If you actually want to do a s/c metal thing I'd go straight for the quarter pounder. Tony Iommi uses P90 and you'll get damn close with the QP. Slightly different tone but the same brutality.


Edit: But really, it's mostly about the amp. Use the wrong amp and it won't matter wtf pickups you have. Get the right amp and it hardly matters what pickups you have.

It's not that the thing doesn't still sound heavy through the amp, it's just that I want something really hot, my Humbucker equipped guitar hits the thing so hard that it sounds like I'm running a compressor. the Set I'm looking at now has a 15k bridge and 13k middle, so I'm really thinking about it.
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I have the high gain amp, I just want the guitar to be a little hotter, I have a guitar with humbuckers and it does what I want. I just want the guitar to be a little hotter and less bright.
You just described a Quarter Pounder there.

You've got the Mk3 haven't you?
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You just described a Quarter Pounder there.

You've got the Mk3 haven't you?

Indeed so
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Especially on single coils! Great suggestion!


Oh?

My knowledge on all of this is admittedly limited. It's why I started posting on UG. I ask this out of pure curiosity...

Why would it be a bad idea to hook up a heavy distortion pedal to a single-coil pick-up? Is it simply because the classic background fuzz that a single-coil sends would be contributed to the distorted effect from the pedal?
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Oh?

My knowledge on all of this is admittedly limited. It's why I started posting on UG. I ask this out of pure curiosity...

Why would it be a bad idea to hook up a heavy distortion pedal to a single-coil pick-up? Is it simply because the classic background fuzz that a single-coil sends would be contributed to the distorted effect from the pedal?


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I saw in a couple of pictures that on Bucketheads Les Paul (only some pictures) that his neck pickup is painted in white. Can anyone explain to me why he would do this, and if there are any pros and cons.

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Quote by Good Ol' Ramos
Oh?

My knowledge on all of this is admittedly limited. It's why I started posting on UG. I ask this out of pure curiosity...

Why would it be a bad idea to hook up a heavy distortion pedal to a single-coil pick-up? Is it simply because the classic background fuzz that a single-coil sends would be contributed to the distorted effect from the pedal?


It's mostly because the MT-2 sucks, tbh.

Hooking single coils up to a decent high gain pedal will give off much better results.

But that's not what TS is after.


My only question is are you looking full set or just for bridge?
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Quote by SimplyBen
It's mostly because the MT-2 sucks, tbh.

Hooking single coils up to a decent high gain pedal will give off much better results.

But that's not what TS is after.


My only question is are you looking full set or just for bridge?

Full Set. The lil' Killers are in the lead for me now.

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It's mostly because the MT-2 sucks, tbh.

This, If I wanted to get all of my distortion tone from a pedal I wouldn't have just spent that much on a decent tube amp.
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death metal? hmm. i eould say you definitely need to find the right pickups. however, to get a decent hi gain tone sure. plenty of metal bands are using stacked humbuckers in their SSS strats.

seymour duncan has a decent selection. their hot rails are veryhot and bright, intense. i dont like them at all for general playing in place of a low output single coil, but i bet they would fare pretty well in a high gain application.
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death metal? hmm. i eould say you definitely need to find the right pickups. however, to get a decent hi gain tone sure. plenty of metal bands are using stacked humbuckers in their SSS strats.

seymour duncan has a decent selection. their hot rails are veryhot and bright, intense. i dont like them at all for general playing in place of a low output single coil, but i bet they would fare pretty well in a high gain application.

Not quite death metal, I'd say more power metal than anything.
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It's mostly because the MT-2 sucks, tbh.


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tube screamer and turn the tone knob down slightly. If you have a nice tube amp dime the level knob and put gain at about 9 o clock. Get a humbucker if you want, but that should suffice. dont get a boss mt2
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Full Set. The lil' Killers are in the lead for me now.


http://guitarasylum.com/index.php?/pickups/bare-knuckle-pickups/single-coils-for-strat/bare-knuckle-pickups-the-sinner-single-coil-single/flypage-2.tpl

If you can get the Lil' Killers in middle and neck positions, this should still be in budget. Can't think of anything more awesome for the bridge position.

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tube screamer and turn the tone knob down slightly. If you have a nice tube amp dime the level knob and put gain at about 9 o clock. Get a humbucker if you want, but that should suffice. dont get a boss mt2

If part of my problem is lacking low end, why would I get a pedal with a Bass Cut?


Also part of the reason I'm favoring the humbuckers plan is because I can't freaking stand single coil hum.
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