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A Republican congressman from Alaska on Thursday used a slur referring to immigrants, particularly Mexicans, in an interview with a public radio station in his home stage.

Amid a hot-button debate in Washington over how to overhaul the nation's immigration laws, Rep. Don Young, a 21-term lawmaker, referred to immigrant workers as "wetbacks" — a term that could threaten to inflame the debate about immigration reform.

"My father had a ranch; we used to have 50-60 wetbacks to pick tomatoes," Young said in an interview with radio station KRBD. He was discussing the number of jobs that have been made irrelevant due to advances in automation. The interview was first surfaced by Buzzfeed.

"It takes two people to pick the same tomatoes now. It’s all done by machine," Young added.

While the veteran congressman wasn't referring directly to immigration reform, his remarks certainly cut against the broader Republican effort to repair the party's dismal image with Latino voters.

The term "wetback" is a derogatory term sometimes used to refer to migrant workers, particularly Mexicans or Mexican-Americans who now reside in the United States.

In a statement released late Thursday, Young said "I used a term that was commonly used during my days growing up on a farm in Central California. I know that this term is not used in the same way nowadays and I meant no disrespect," NBC affiliate KTUU in Anchorage, Alaska, reported.
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Okay? Not okay? I think the term "wetback" has a fairly recent and wide background of usage, this guy may just see it strictly as an cultural/agricultural term. I can understand that. It may not have been the best politics, but I don't think he said it macisiously or with a derogatory intent. Thoughts?
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Wow. That's one way to fuck up. I appreciate that he had no malicious intent, but he didn't even apologize.
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What a jackass.
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That's some good stuff. I hope he says nigger next.

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Not familiar with the term, as we don't use it here, but am I right in assuming it implies they swam past border controls to get to the US, or something along those lines?

Either way, if it's as bad as that sounds, he's a bit of a moron considering the image of his party already
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Not familiar with the term, as we don't use it here, but am I right in assuming it implies they swam past border controls to get to the US, or something along those lines?

Either way, if it's as bad as that sounds, he's a bit of a moron considering the image of his party already

Not really. His party gets votes from conservatives and racists, not immigrants. So his actions may improve his stature among the republican fanbase.
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"In a statement released late Thursday, Young said "I used a term that was commonly used during my days growing up on a farm in Central California. I know that this term is not used in the same way nowadays and I meant no disrespect," "

...erm yes it is, it's used in the EXACT same way. Meaning Mexican workers who swam over to get there.
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"In a statement released late Thursday, Young said "I used a term that was commonly used during my days growing up on a farm in Central California. I know that this term is not used in the same way nowadays and I meant no disrespect," "

...erm yes it is, it's used in the EXACT same way. Meaning Mexican workers who swam over to get there.

I dont see what is racist then.
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I dont see what is racist then.

I probably misphrased that, that's the etymology not just the meaning.

It's a derogatory term used for all Mexican workers implying they all swam across the river to get there illegally. It's the same as any racist term really, setting out an us and them mentality, as in us the rightful citizens and them the foreigners so desperate to work here they swam across the river.

I don't think it's ever been used in any other manner than a derogatory term for illegal workers.
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I probably misphrased that, that's the etymology not just the meaning.

It's a derogatory term used for all Mexican workers implying they all swam across the river to get there illegally. It's the same as any racist term really, setting out an us and them mentality, as in us the rightful citizens and them the foreigners so desperate to work here they swam across the river.

I don't think it's ever been used in any other manner than a derogatory term for illegal workers.

Ok, a bit more racist then xp.
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Not really. His party gets votes from conservatives and racists, not immigrants. So his actions may improve his stature among the republican fanbase.

But he did it at a time when the party's trying really hard to expand their base beyond cranky old teabaggers to incorporate more minorities.
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But he did it at a time when the party's trying really hard to expand their base beyond cranky old teabaggers to incorporate more minorities.

Wouldnt work anyway. Ofcourse poot immigrants are going to vote for the democrats.
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I don't think they'll ever win a majority but they can do less bad. Bush managed to get like 45% of Hispanics.
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I don't think they'll ever win a majority but they can do less bad. Bush managed to get like 45% of Hispanics.

I stand corrected. It actually reminds me of the fact that a lot of muslims that are doing well also vote for geert wilders here. They hate how their associate foreigners are acting here.
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I stand corrected. It actually reminds me of the fact that a lot of muslims that are doing well also vote for geert wilders here. They hate how their associate foreigners are acting here.


Not to stray off-topic, but I was actually just having a discussion about this with someone else. Are there any sources on his voters? I couldn't really find proper ones that were more extensive than 'his electorate consists of lower and middle class white males'.
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Not to stray off-topic, but I was actually just having a discussion about this with someone else. Are there any sources on his voters? I couldn't really find proper ones that were more extensive than 'his electorate consists of lower and middle class white males'.

I dont know. I only remember the study that it was poor white people. Old people, rich racist people and surprisingly a lot of muslims.
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Wouldnt work anyway. Ofcourse poot immigrants are going to vote for the democrats.

What about people who are disgusted by slurs, but aren't part of any minorities themselves? I can see plenty of people, regardless of ethnic background saying "I want nuthin' to do with this shit."
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What about people who are disgusted by slurs, but aren't part of any minorities themselves? I can see plenty of people, regardless of ethnic background saying "I want nuthin' to do with this shit."

Those people self selected themselves out of the republican party long ago.
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Ok, a bit more racist then xp.

The thing is it's always difficult to say why words are racist merely from definition; really it's about usage, intent, and history.

For example if someone asked you to define the word "n*gger" really the meaning of the word is "black people", but that doesn't sound in itself racist. Merely its meaning isn't really going to say exactly why it's racist. A massive part is how the words are used, not their bare definition or etymology.
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Here in Texas the term "wetback" is used a lot, but 99% of the time it's referring to illegal Mexican immigrants since there's a lot of them here. Most of the construction jobs with roads and houses are done by illegal immigrants here.
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That's some good stuff. I hope he says nigger next.


Hey, it is the term that was commonly used back in the day.
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Here in Texas the term "wetback" is used a lot, but 99% of the time it's referring to illegal Mexican immigrants since there's a lot of them here.

Oh, that makes it ok then, I guess.

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this kind of stuff reminds me of pre civil war american attitudes

it's especially fitting because these immigrants are usually slaves of the free market
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this kind of stuff reminds me of pre civil war american attitudes

it's especially fitting because these immigrants are usually slaves of the free market

Lol slaves. they come here for better wages and living conditions out of free will and can go anywhere they want. If that is slavery, then i see no problem with it.
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Lol slaves. they come here for better wages and living conditions out of free will and can go anywhere they want. If that is slavery, then i see no problem with it.
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Lol slaves. they come here for better wages and living conditions out of free will and can go anywhere they want. If that is slavery, then i see no problem with it.

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Did you move to the US all of a sudden or you thinking in terms of us, the rich west vs dem, poor peeps?

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I probably misphrased that, that's the etymology not just the meaning.

It's a derogatory term used for all Mexican workers implying they all swam across the river to get there illegally. It's the same as any racist term really, setting out an us and them mentality, as in us the rightful citizens and them the foreigners so desperate to work here they swam across the river.

I don't think it's ever been used in any other manner than a derogatory term for illegal workers.


It's indirectly racist, even when used in the 'swam here' context. (Which is also wrong, since the Rio Grande can be walked across in many places... )

But I have no problem with the 'us and them' mentality, it's still criminal behavior and that's very much an 'us and them' issue.

That being said, I've long supported immigration reform. I believe it should be easier and less costly, but provide limited benefits for the first 5 years. I also believe that if it was made easier and less costly, anyone caught coming illegally after that would NEVER be allowed to enter legally.
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Forty dollars for picking a ton (literally) of vegetables

More than what they earn at home. Otherwise they wouldn't come.

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That being said, I've long supported immigration reform. I believe it should be easier and less costly, but provide limited benefits for the first 5 years. I also believe that if it was made easier and less costly, anyone caught coming illegally after that would NEVER be allowed to enter legally.


they've already proved they're willing to break the law to come over, so what's to stop them from doing it again?
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More than what they earn at home. Otherwise they wouldn't come.

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Yeah getting paid cents for hours of work is okay...

Then they should just go back home. Why don't they? Oh yeah life here is apparently better. so it is a,win-win situation.
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they've already proved they're willing to break the law to come over, so what's to stop them from doing it again?


Mandatory jail terms for 2nd offense.
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Here in Texas the term "wetback" is used a lot
I've never really heard it used here. I mean, I've heard of the term, but I've never heard it being used like in OP.

Unless all the white people are saying it when I'm not around so I guess I wouldn't know.
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