#1
Hey folks,

I am a 24 years old guitarist from Tel-Aviv, and about to graduate University. Before starting my career, I'd like to try my luck in a band and try to fulfill my dream.

I have been in Amsterdam quite a few times, and I really like it. I have thoughts about relocation, and I wonder if relocation won't harm my chances to fulfill my dreams. Or, in other words, I know the Israeli rock scene pretty well and its alive and kickin', although a rather tiny scene. But how's the scene in Amsterdam/The Netherlands? Is it too selfish of me to think that a medium-level guitarist can come to this town, get into a band and perhaps succeed?

talaus
#2
Bump.
Any info would be helpful you guys, I am currently clueless.
I'm also considering other European cities to settle in, although I prefer Amsterdam (read some good stuff about Berlin indie scene).

Thanks!
#3
Based on the fact that you consider yourself a medium-level guitarist, I can say for sure that it'll take a shit ton of work, no matter where you are. Then again, if you meet the right people it may work out for you.

Either way, be glad you have that degree.
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#4
Yup, that degree is my fallback in case things don't go well

I think that I can actually do pretty good on the rhythm guitar, and that's what I am aiming for now. Have no clue if going for rhythm guitar role would increase my chances getting into a band.
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Have no clue if going for rhythm guitar role would increase my chances getting into a band.
Probably not, but if you are good enough at networking you may find a band with potential that you fit into.

Expect to do a lot of cover-band gigs. Those are the ones that pay the best, usually. Especially wedding gigs.
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#7
Haha yeah man, I like the fact that the authorities treat me like an adult in the Netherlands. Hail Liberalism.

food1010: Actually playing weddings might be cool in the "short run", that's very uncommon in Israel as 99.9% of the couples hire a DJ that plays lame Mid Eastern music.
#8
What's weird about the US is that weddings (and I used to valet a bunch of wedding when I was in high school) are the one last bastion of playing older music and making it profitable (whether you're a band or a DJ). Seriously, if you can play Celebrate by Kool and the Gang, you've got it made.


Note: that is totes a good song.
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#9
Sadly USA is not an option as I probably won't get a visa (young dude, no job...)
Otherwise I would've considered Seattle/New York as candidates for relocation.
#10
There hardly is anything like a real 'scene' in any city in the Netherlands, they're simply too small for that. You'll be able to find some musicians to play with though, and there's a reasonable amount of 'rock' bands getting mainstream attention at the moment.
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#11
Quote by talaus
Sadly USA is not an option as I probably won't get a visa (young dude, no job...)
Otherwise I would've considered Seattle/New York as candidates for relocation.

Well everybody wants to go to NYC, Seattle is smaller, but it has a greater clout than a city its size deserves. You should check out Chicago (or MILWAUKEE!) or some other cool cities located in the middle of the country. like st. louis (LAME!) or even Indianapolis (SUPER LAME).
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#12
Israel has a rock scene?!
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Israel has a rock scene?!

Dude. Milwaukee has a bunch of bad ass basement shows as we speak, but Israel, that's just bad ass and tough as **** any time.
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There hardly is anything like a real 'scene' in any city in the Netherlands, they're simply too small for that. You'll be able to find some musicians to play with though, and there's a reasonable amount of 'rock' bands getting mainstream attention at the moment.

I want to disagree. I know of multiple bands that my Friends are in that have a gig or two every week in the south. Simply by hopping the 100-200k cities. We may not have one giant scène, but we do have a lot of bars etc where you can play close to eachpther. All the cities are 15 mimutes apart.
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#15
Yeah, rather than pinning it down on one city, I think you could say we have a pretty 'national' rockscene
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I want to disagree. I know of multiple bands that my Friends are in that have a gig or two every week in the south. Simply by hopping the 100-200k cities. We may not have one giant scène, but we do have a lot of bars etc where you can play close to eachpther. All the cities are 15 mimutes apart.
That's what I mean, you can't get anywhere by focussing on one city, because our cities are simply too small to generate a large 'scene'. You have to go at least regionwide if you want to have frequent gigs.
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#17
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That's what I mean, you can't get anywhere by focussing on one city, because our cities are simply too small to generate a large 'scene'. You have to go at least regionwide if you want to have frequent gigs.

Ok then i agree. I am afraid amsterdam itself is pretty limited in rock though.
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#18
The way I see it, the advantage of living in any European city is having the ability to tour Europe. So I won't be limited to Amsterdam. Am I right?
#19
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Israel has a rock scene?!


Actually there's a pretty nice indie scene right now, and some of the bands also tour abroad. My favorite recent band is Eatliz: http://www.myspace.com/eatliz

Also, in the 90's when Grunge was mainstream in the US, Israeli Rock conquered the Israeli charts. Currently half of the mentors in The Voice Israel are rockers from that era (probably for the money haha, but it shows that its still somewhat popular).
Last edited by talaus at Apr 5, 2013,
#20
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Dude. Milwaukee has a bunch of bad ass basement shows as we speak, but Israel, that's just bad ass and tough as **** any time.


Sadly yeah, although most of us got used to it. I ran to shelter a couple of times this year due to rockets fired from Gaza. Sad thing is after a couple of days of "war" ("war"s takes place here every 1-2 years) you become apathetic and smoke weed rather than running to shelter, way more relaxing.

I have no problem to discuss this even further if you wish.
#21
Come to London, I'll start a band with ya.
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#22
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Come to London, I'll start a band with ya.


Actually London can be awesome
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