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Does anyone else have serious beef with guitars that have a headstock that doesn't match the body? I know sound is most important and its being extremely picky but I just cant bring myself to buy a guitar that looks that mismatched. For example I want an eclipse cause I love ESP and they have some real nice finishes but then they throw on a plain black headstock and it just ruins it (although I could just get the vintage black one I guess). I donno it just feels like they're being cheap which is crap if I'm payin at over a grand for it. But is that the case or is there some other reason for it?
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How is painting something black 'being cheap'?
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I had a Gloss Black on a Gun Metal Green Strat. It looked rad.

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Loads of guitars have black headstocks without the guitar being black.
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I can't stand black strats or teles with rosewood fretboards and plain maple headstocks for that reason. Looks cheap to me. Otherwise it doesn't bother me.
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For me, I won't buy guitars that are painted - in other words, guitars you can't see the natural woodtone. It's partially personal preference and it's also the idea that they use lesser quality wood on solid color guitars. Guitars are made out of wood, so I want to see wood grain.

The headstock thing doesn't bother me.
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#8
I won't say that it bugs me or looks cheap, but I prefer the look of a matching headstock over a black one. But I also like guitars with a natural headstock(not matching the body).

It annoys me when someone asserts that something "looks cheap". Often times, the thing that is supposedly cheap isn't any easier, faster, or cheaper to do, so that argument isn't very sound.
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#9
Framus guitars? Warwick basses? Hardly cheap rubbish. Or even cheap looking.
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Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
How is painting something black 'being cheap'?


in the 70s Fender used to just paint any blemished bodies black. Resulting in a way higher number of black models being sold kind of cheap.
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in the 70s Fender used to just paint any blemished bodies black. Resulting in a way higher number of black models being sold kind of cheap.

Well they were 70's Fenders.
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Quote by ProphetToJables
in the 70s Fender used to just paint any blemished bodies black. Resulting in a way higher number of black models being sold kind of cheap.

practically everybody does that with bodies, because it's not necessary to have a good looking body just to laquer over it. The appearance of the grain isn't going to make the guitar sound better or worse. some would call that cheap - i call it 'resourceful'.

But black headstocks are anything but cheap in more expensive guitars - sometimes they aren't painted on, they are ebony veneers.
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What I'm saying is they used the black paint as an excuse to not get good bodies, They produced a way higher number of black models.
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Quote by ProphetToJables
in the 70s Fender used to just paint any blemished bodies black. Resulting in a way higher number of black models being sold kind of cheap.

Regardless of what Fender did at one point, a black guitar does not equal cheap.
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I'm just saying if people leaned towards black guitars lookign cheap, that might be why.

On topic: Aside from Ebony Gibsons, and natural coloured Fenders, all their headstocks are mis-matched. And look great.
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Usually, mismatched headstocks dont bug me. Nothing is wrong with chromatic counterpoints or compliments as opposed to congruence.

But I DO hate mismatched headstocks when it is clear (to me, at least) that someone messed up.

For example, while I normally praise Carvins, but this one has the wrong color purple headstock, compared to its body:
http://www.carvinguitars.com/images/guitars-in-stock/large/113718b.jpg

Here's Carvin doing it right, for comparison:
http://www.carvinguitars.com/images/guitars-in-stock/large/120129b.jpg

Who approved that first one? That person needs a smack to the back of the head.
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I K0nijn I
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Quote by ProphetToJables
I'm just saying if people leaned towards black guitars lookign cheap, that might be why.

On topic: Aside from Ebony Gibsons, and natural coloured Fenders, all their headstocks are mis-matched. And look great.


There are Fenders with matching headstocks, though. CIJ Jaguars are an example that have them (not sure if all of them have it, though).
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Quote by I K0nijn I
There are Fenders with matching headstocks, though. CIJ Jaguars are an example that have them (not sure if all of them have it, though).


Yep, some of the Jags and Jazzys from Japan feature that matching headstock, as do Thin Skin models of both. I love the matched headstock on the offset Fenders, but could care less otherwise.
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Depends. I don't with Fenders. They're classics and that's how it's always been. There's some guitars that it doesn't look right with though imo.