#1
So I'm riding the John Mayer wave because why the **** not, he's amazing at guitar. Instead of typing more hooplah you guys won't even read I'll go straight to the important stuff.

Budget:
Eh, keep it under or around $1000.

New/Used:
Either, probably used in the end. Preferably US made, unless there's some killed Mex Strats that I'm ignorant of.

Options: I'll gladly look into G&L, Peavey T-60, etc.

Sound I want: All of that jangly jangly stuff you can get out of Yellow Ledbetter, but still with the ability to have some nice searing tone when it's pushed, maybe in the essence of Mayer's lead tone + some. I have an Orange Rockerverb 50 Mk II so I'm not exactly worried about my amp not covering any ground, I'm just looking for the right guitar to complement it.

Also, any thoughts/comments/concerns on Lace Sensors?

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#2
The 2012 American Standard Strats should fit you just fine, they changed the pickups to the Custom Shop Fat 50s and I think they sound much better than the ones they used to use. You can always change them out later.

You pretty much know what you want, so it's not a science. Get an American Strat and forget about it. If you want Lace Sensors, build a pickguard with them that you can swap out with whatever else between string changes for something new.
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#3
On the lower end of the price spectrum, the MIM Roadhouse Deluxe strats are good cause they've got the Texas Special pickups.

Otherwise, American Standard.
#4
I'd say either an American Standard strat, or one of the higher-end Made in Mexico strats like the Classic Series or the Deluxe Series.

I've heard good things about G&L strats as well, but I can't really comment on that because I haven't played them.

Edit: Lace Sensor golds or blues might be what you are looking for. I like the Holy Grail pickups too.
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#5
I have a 2011 american that I swapped the pickups out of immediately so I can't really comment on those. They were actually pretty good and I might put them back in though... Either way the 2012, as mentioned, has CS pickups.

I think the G&L...legacy (?), the American equivalent is GENERALLY a better guitar. I had to play a couple strats to get one I was happy with and even so it has some nasty intonation issues. All guitars have some form of it, of course. I played 3 G&Ls and they were all fantastic.
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#6
i am not a huge SC guy, but i own a strat because everybody should own one (gone through ten or so). i use it a little bit here and there, but at one point i was considering a new 'strat,' i played a used G&L in local shop and it didn't feel as natural as the strat was for me.

i would play both.
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#8
I have a vintage 69 strat that I managed to pick up from gumtree for £900. Look on used sites, don't rush in to buying an average guitar. American Standards are good, and all fenders sound different.. but even if you end up waiting for six months for a really good guitar to come up, you wont regret it.
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#12
Look into Godin Progression & if one pops up used for cheap then Godin Passion RG3.

I'm not a fan of lace sensors, but I'm a fan of the new Dimarzio Areas 58/61/67 if you want really nice single coil tones minus the hum or look Kinmanns noiseless if you got the budget
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I have a vintage 69 strat that I managed to pick up from gumtree for £900. Look on used sites, don't rush in to buying an average guitar. American Standards are good, and all fenders sound different.. but even if you end up waiting for six months for a really good guitar to come up, you wont regret it.


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#14
used American Standard should do you fine. i'm a big fan of Lace Sensor pups so i'll 2nd that suggestion. while your Orange isa fine amp it may not have the crystal cleans that meyer uses so keep that in mind.
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#16
I've had a few G&L's, two being a Legacy. I'd say that if you're looking for the Mayer sound you'd probably be best served with a Fender. The Legacy is definitely more modern voiced, and feels like a different animal. It's chunkier and heavier for sure.

I've owned over 10 Strats and 2 of the G&L Legacy equivalents. I won't say either one is better. I'll say they're different, and one might be better for you than the other. Based on my experience, I'd say you'll want to err on the Fender side.

I'm a big fan of Lace Sensor Golds just like the other guys, but if you want jangly you won't get them from Lace. Their sound is very honed and compressed. I've had the Golds and a Blue/Gold/Red set in two Strats before. The sounds is great, but not 'jangly.'

For a good quack and slap sound I'd definitely recommend a 57/62 set. Probably my favorite "do it all" set in a Strat. Mayer uses the Big Dippers.


Also realize that most of Mayer's sound comes from those awesome, awesome Two Rock amps.
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#17
Thanks for the advice, guys! I'll probably start looking into an American Standard relatively soon. What are some good prices for a used one? The ones I've seen on ebay are typically $800-900.

Also, olympic white with a rosewood fretboard...
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I've seen them go as low as $600, but those are usually modded. Those guitars are like frankensteins though, all you really need is the body and the neck and then let your imagination put the rest together.

$800 for a good condition factory Strat is pretty good, but you can definitely get lower.
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