#1
Hey guys,

I was thinking of adding some new speakers to my 1960b, not too keen on the cut mids in the stock celestion 75's/

I have heard that putting two V30's in a cross pattern with the originals speakers is a great combo.

i play hard rock/ cover band rock mainly.

would it be a good idea to buy a harley benton vintage 212 and swap its speakers with the marshall ?

Its only 160 quid, im not too sure on the price's of a seperate set of V30's.

so basically, would i be better buying the 212 and switching the speakers, or buying a seperate pair of V30's ?

thanks

edit. forgot to say im playing a egnater tweaker 88 which is a pretty bassy amp, and sometimes a valveking 50 watt thats been converted into a head
Last edited by higgycr at Apr 11, 2013,
#2
Yeah Celestion V30s are pretty much a staple speaker from rock like Zeppelin and stuff, may not be so good if you are going heavier maybe something like a Cannabis Rex then. And I don't know what the prices run in the UK but you would be able to get a single V30 for $150 so it seems like a decent deal, just make sure the ohms match up properly.
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#3
V30s would be a great complement. I'd go with any of the alternatives though... WSG Vet30, Eminence Governor. They are all supposed to be a lil better. These days I always go with Eminence over Celestion (with the exception of G12K's).
#4
There is not really any way for a speaker to be "better" when it comes to guitar speakers, because it's all down to taste, I have V30s in one of mine, I also have a 1960A with the T75s and I also have a Marshall AVT150 combo with a 100w Celestion cheapy thing inside it.

If anything the cheapy 100w Celestion sounds as good as the V30s, but I really dislike the T75s, horrible. There are a few good comparison videos on youtube, the Eminence Swamp Thang took my fancy though the Celestion Vintage 30 is probably my overall favourite, they sound good with everything and it's no surprise why they are the most popular.
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#5
^ by all accounts the avt's speaker is a rebranded hot 100... which is actually pretty well regarded if you do a search round the net (I haven't tried it).

cheapo speakers are pretty crappy, in other words. you just got lucky and got one of the few cheap good ones.

EDIT: disregard that, the 100 watter's speaker was a hot 100. not sure what the 150's speaker was, since it'd need a 150 watt-rated speaker

Quote by ne14t
(a) Yeah Celestion V30s are pretty much a staple speaker from rock like Zeppelin and stuff, (b) may not be so good if you are going heavier maybe something like a Cannabis Rex then. (c) And I don't know what the prices run in the UK but you would be able to get a single V30 for $150 so it seems like a decent deal, (d) just make sure the ohms match up properly.


(a) lolwut?

(b) lolwut? v30s are like the industry standard hard rock and metal speaker.

(c) around £75 i think. considering he already has two g12t75s, it may well just make more sense to get the harley benton...

(d) ... as long as the impedance matches up, as you said. that's the main thing to consider. it's only a good deal if the impedances match.
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Last edited by Dave_Mc at Apr 12, 2013,
#6
Yeah im probably gonna get a harley benton, if anything it will be useful having a 212 kicking around with an old set of t75's in it after the swap. If i am correct the V30's in it are 16ohm which is good. the marshall runs a paralel series set up if i am correct so its speakers are 16 ohm also.
#7
Quote by Dave_Mc
^ by all accounts the avt's speaker is a rebranded hot 100... which is actually pretty well regarded if you do a search round the net (I haven't tried it).

cheapo speakers are pretty crappy, in other words. you just got lucky and got one of the few cheap good ones.

EDIT: disregard that, the 100 watter's speaker was a hot 100. not sure what the 150's speaker was, since it'd need a 150 watt-rated speaker


(a) lolwut?

(b) lolwut? v30s are like the industry standard hard rock and metal speaker.

(c) around £75 i think. considering he already has two g12t75s, it may well just make more sense to get the harley benton...

(d) ... as long as the impedance matches up, as you said. that's the main thing to consider. it's only a good deal if the impedances match.


The AVT150 speaker is the same as the 100, it only ran at 150w 4ohms, 100w at 8ohms, the AVT series had a 1x12 extension cabinet intended to go with the AVT150 in order for you to use the full 150w. So really the AVT150 was only 100w on its own.

Anyway, that speaker sounds great, the amp gets used as a 1x12 cabinet for my other amps these days, for practice and recording, I used the 1960A for years live, but never liked the sound of the speakers, just couldn't afford to replace them at the time or I would have put 4x V30s in there and sold off the T75s.
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Last edited by Bigbazz at Apr 12, 2013,
#8
ah i see, thanks

yeah well then if it is the hot 100, that explains why it sounds good. it's certainly not the case that all cheapo speakers sound good, just you got lucky.
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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Presumably because the CCF (Combined Corksniffing Forces) of MLP and Gibson forums would rise up against them, plunging the land into war.

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