#1
I currently own Guitar Pro 6, would it be worth it to get Tab Pro as well in order to have access to tabs that might not be available for Guitar Pro?

What are the pros and cons of Tab Pro versus Guitar Pro?
#2
Tab pro tabs, are to my knowledge or in >99% of the cases, actually GP/ptb tabs. The tab pro tab listed when you browse tab are usually, if not always, duplicate of the one of the tabs you get with GP (likely the highest rated one). I think I just said the same thing twice.
Important to mention, the ratings for the tab pro is currently fake, as you can see they all have 5 stars.

I don't see why you would want Tab Pro if you have GP6, as GP6 can read powertab and have superior features

I think I got a free subscription in my PMs somewhere, might activate it and actually review it - though since it's a UG product they probably don't like negative comments on it on the site
#3
Quote by fanapathy
Tab pro tabs, are to my knowledge or in >99% of the cases, actually GP/ptb tabs. The tab pro tab listed when you browse tab are usually, if not always, duplicate of the one of the tabs you get with GP (likely the highest rated one). I think I just said the same thing twice.
Important to mention, the ratings for the tab pro is currently fake, as you can see they all have 5 stars.

I don't see why you would want Tab Pro if you have GP6, as GP6 can read powertab and have superior features

I think I got a free subscription in my PMs somewhere, might activate it and actually review it - though since it's a UG product they probably don't like negative comments on it on the site

we would actually love to get your feedback, good bad or neutral doesn't matter but we need a honest opinion.
#4
^Feedback it is, then.

I have been checking out Tab Pro for a few days. As someone with good experience from various tabbbing and tab playback software, I will go over its functionality and usefulness.
This will be the review of the web app/flash player as well as a quick overview of the Tap Pro site in general, used on a regular laptop/computer - as I do not own a compatible phone or iPad/other device.


First impression

Initially, the design and layout of the site is stylish and modern. The search/browse feature is similar to the regular UG site.
You can choose from stuff like Top 100 tabs, genres, difficulty level and the most recent tabs. It's very user-friendly and easy to understand.

When you find the tab/song you want to play, you just click on it and it will bring up the Tab Pro player in your browser - which itself is very similar in to the tab playback software Go Playalong (as they are partnered with this product).


Tab player - functionality, limitations and issues

This is a tab player, not an editor. Its primary function is reading and playing back Guitar Pro files (.gp, .gp3-gp4-gp5-gpx), and probably PowerTab (.ptb) - however as the player does not state the original format, I cannot confirm if PowerTab versions are compatible.
This means you cannot edit the tab, fix errors, or re-arrange the tracks like you would in a tab editor. This is obviously very important to be aware of before signing up.

Tabs load at a fine speed (2-5 seconds on my average hardware) and playback is smooth. I haven't had any crashes except few listed .gpx based tabs do not load at all.

Interface is intuitive and simple. It will list all tracks, and you can choose which one you want to play along with. You have the typical play, pause, rewind and loop. You can mark a shorter section to loop, if you are practicing a riff.
You can of course adjust the volume, mute tracks and tweak the sounds of the tracks at a basic level.
There's a knob where you can change the pitch, limited to +-4 semitones. This is quite useful as for example if a tab is written in D standard, you can just change the pitch +2 and play along in standard tuning.
Next we have a zoom option, which is useful for enlarging or zooming out. The "knobs" themselves are a bit buggy and could use re-programming as they don't always go where you click.

Next we have the tempo function. Its range is unfortunately limited to a 50%-200% range, in my opinion 50% is often too fast if starting to learn a tricky riff/solo or otherwise new technique - and think that in a future version it should be capable of 25% or lower. On the high end, playing a song at double speed is typically not useful at all for most users.

Transpose function: You can transpose the tracks +- 11 semitones. This transposes the tab itself and not just the pitch. It will have typical problems for those who are familiar with such functions, and you'll often end up with ridiculous tabbing like this



Nothing new really, this happens in all tab players so the programming is probably tricky.


"Gimmicks"
-Visual fretboard. It's similar to fretboards in other software. It will highlight tab positioning on the fretboard. This might be useful to complete beginners if they don't understand how to read TAB and have trouble visualizing it. I have never found this useful, even less here as it won't say which actual note(s) you're playing and you it doesn't identify notes on the fretboard if you hover/click them.
-Game mode. Fundamental design is similar to Rocksmith/Guitar Hero etc and aims to make it more fun to play and possibly an easier transition for new guitarists who have played the games. It's hard to read the numbers on the strings in an average-speed song. I can't play along to this unless I already know the song.
I've called these features gimmicks as they look appealing but aren't very useful in practice.

Other than this, there's a countdown option and a settings button where you can enable a metronome and change some of the layout. Unless I overlooked something, there's not more functionality to speak of.

Sound

Sound is MIDI based for the most part. Distortion guitar sounds are alright, better than MIDI. Drums are very weak. For other instruments - unless the tab is written in MIDI, they will get a default tone of a weak clean guitar. The player can't read information from GP6 soundbanks, which can make .gpx tabs sound very bad.

I've checked out some of my own tabs on Tab Pro for reference, as I've written them I know exactly what they're supposed to be like.
Less common percussion instruments in modern music like Bongos/Congas, Tambourine, etc are not read properly and will not sound right.
Automations/variations like pan, volume or sound changes are completely ignored from what I've seen so far. Lyrics written in the vocal track aren't read/displayed.
I will not be surprised to get a low rating or a bad comment from a user coming from Tab Pro, as my efforts in effects and sound quality now sounds like a complete joke; sometimes far from the original song. If I could choose, I wouldn't want them available in the archive - that's how bad it is compared to the original tab - however I might just be spoiled from RSE2.

As GP6 is the leading tab editor at this point and the more advanced GPX format is growing in popularity, incompatibility and poor sound translation is likely to become a growing issue with Tab Pro.
The verdict on sound, therefore, is that it's not going to be great to use as a backing track for practice, at least not for Rock or Metal - particularly with the very weak drum kits.


Archive/Catalog

When browsing tabs, it will not display different versions nor ratings. The low/non-existing quality control results in that as a user you will eventually come across very poor and random tabs.

Also, a tab will not differentiate "Intro" or "Solo" as it is on the regular UG site. They're all attributed as full versions.

As a test, I went ahead and checked if the infamous tab "****in Richys" by Amon Amarth was there. Indeed it is, both Ver 1 and Ver 2. This is something that was joked around with in some threads on the site. It's not a real song by the band, it's actually a user who has uploaded some of his own random guitar riffs and horrible drum loops under the well known band name.



Search result on UG. The "5 star" TP tab is the same as the 1 stars. The tab itself can't really be explained with words.


Having the "World's largest tab catalog" is a quite nice sales pitch. This is in my opinion just not good enough for a product you pay for. Tab Pro archive should have high quality tabs and high quality tabs only.
The service needs way more moderation and quality control. I would greatly prefer an archive of 20,000 awesome tabs than 250,000+ tabs of random quality.


Summary

Tap Pro is an easily accessible product. It's suitable for people who want access to tabs from different locations and sources, as you could just log into your UG from any computer/device and use tab pro right away. That is convenient for people who travel a lot or don't want to have to bring their computer with them to use tabs.

It's generally beginner-friendly and has enough features to be way more preferable than ASCII tabs, however, a "Print tab" feature could be useful for some.
Tab pro suits the casual guitarist and the beginner. It's not for composing and probably has little value to advanced players mainly because you cannot edit tabs.
As people who are experienced in learning songs from tabs know, we often want to re-arrange fretting, correct wrong notes or compile a cover track - none of which you can do in Tab Pro.

Tab Pro uses tabs that are user-submitted and are already available on UG, therefore if you already have a tab editor/player compatible with most formats, you probably don't need this unless you strongly dislike downloading and opening tabs.
Personally, I wouldn't mind having this available on a smartphone or similar so that I could pull out a tab wherever I am - that would be pretty cool. Having GP6 and usually wanting to change tabs, transcribe or make my own tabs - I personally don't have a use for this.

Try the trial if interested in the product or if you're not interested in learning editing. I could see this being useful to a quite large group of users, as simplicity of apps and mobile devices are so popular these days and still growing in popularity. However, if you're a tab artist yourself or otherwise have good experience with using GP, PT, Tux - this most likely isn't for you.

Suggestions:

I understand that since you're playing back tabs on a web-interface, it cannot have advanced/large soundbanks as it would demand massive resources and bandwidth both ways. Sounds still need to be greatly improved in order to be able compete with other software's standard and for the tabs to be useful as decent backing tracks.

- Reading/understanding original format needs to be improved.

-"Speed trainer" function that gradually increases speed by a given % per loop is very useful.

- Basic editing options would be nice.

- "Tuner". Just something that plays the notes of the given tuning in the track so that the user can adjust their tuning to proper pitch.

- Printing option.

-"Save (Download) File" option.

- Moderate and get rid of awful tabs. A clumsy 1 bar intro doesn't give a good impression of a product that advertises "200,000+ high quality tabs"


That was a way longer write-up than intended. If I were to rate, I'd currently give this about 4.5/10.
I hope some users or developers found this review/feedback useful.

Cheers
Last edited by fanapathy at Apr 18, 2013,
#5
I wanted to put an audio comparison clip in there but the post was already too long

This is a sample I made from one of my tabs - playing back the same tab-section first in Tab Pro, then in the original.

http://youtu.be/OO4TMRWky-4

Now this is by no means a horrible example, but a general demonstration of difference and how TP fails to recognize/play backing instruments.
#6
fanapathy: great review. I was surprised that there are not many unbiased reviews of Tab Pro on the internet.
#8
Hi been using TabPro couple of months now and enjoying it, well layed out and easy to use just having problem with a few glitches ie cursor keeps freezing after every time I pause the track and have to keep unpausing on and off to get it moving, any tips on this? Also think it would be useful to have a 'back' a step or bar button as it quite difficult to keep scrolling back to where you want to be(I may have missed this button tho lol)
#9
Stay away from tab pro.I have allowed them to rip me off for a few dollars thinking that the program would soon or later work. It did when I first purchased and used it to search 1 song then this sales page showed up for me to pay 49.99 for a year or so to get tab pro and it has been that way for 3 or four mnths now. Total ripoff. Coming to check reviews here I see that people are seeing freezes and other issues. Will not be using in the future proceed with caution.
George Russell
#10
Quote by fanapathy
^Feedback it is, then.

I have been checking out Tab Pro for a few days. As someone with good experience from various tabbbing and tab playback software, I will go over its functionality and usefulness.
This will be the review of the web app/flash player as well as a quick overview of the Tap Pro site in general, used on a regular laptop/computer—as I do not own a compatible phone or iPad/other device.


First impression

(…snip)

Tab player - functionality, limitations and issues

(…snip&hellip

Transpose function: You can transpose the tracks +- 11 semitones. This transposes the tab itself and not just the pitch. It will have typical problems for those who are familiar with such functions, and you'll often end up with ridiculous tabbing like this



"Gimmicks"
(SNIP)

Sound

(snip)

Archive/Catalog

(SNIP)




Summary

(Snip)

Suggestions:

I understand that since you're playing back tabs on a web-interface, it cannot have advanced/large soundbanks as it would demand massive resources and bandwidth both ways. Sounds still need to be greatly improved in order to be able compete with other software's standard and for the tabs to be useful as decent backing tracks.

- Reading/understanding original format needs to be improved.

-"Speed trainer" function that gradually increases speed by a given % per loop is very useful.

- Basic editing options would be nice.

- "Tuner". Just something that plays the notes of the given tuning in the track so that the user can adjust their tuning to proper pitch.

- Printing option.

-"Save (Download) File" option.

- Moderate and get rid of awful tabs. A clumsy 1 bar intro doesn't give a good impression of a product that advertises "200,000+ high quality tabs"

If I were to rate, I'd currently give this about 4.5/10.
I hope some users or developers found this review/feedback useful.

Cheers

…and APPLAUSE!!!

Quite simply, I agree wholeheartedly.
My goal is different, but in general the feedback above is well put and constructive.

Just one more missing feature—extensive articulation is usually not in the Tab Pro files that are disappointingly incomplete, especially in regard to advanced and very complex guitar or other solos—likely more appropriate in reference to GP5 than GP6, which appears to have shot itself in the foot—if one were to make the mistake of buying the (probably) legally licensed transcriptions through their sister company “My Songbook”.

Granted, the appeal of published transcriptions is strong as starting points for remixes or interpretations, but you can not edit them in GP6. Either you must re-create every single note in your own new document—think side-by-side monitors or hundreds to thousands of screenshots printed out and pieced together, depending on sizes of prints, or stitching the screenshots of the GPX files you've essentially rented, since they can not be saved to anything useful, given how much is lost if you are going to use a DAW to employ better software instruments than GP6 has even with RSE on and mastering tools than GPX offers, in a photo editor like Photoshop.

All of these options are so tediously far from the joy of writing/editing and/or rearranging musical guitar gods for whom we'd like to create a tribute version and if you want to, say, do your own mash-up or remix personal reinterpretation of the song, that all this work is nearly pointless.

Finding reliably good Tab Pro HD full scores is a depressing exercise: there are versions that don't even contain the complete number of instruments in the songs more often than not, though the best ones do, and are clearly a professional attempt to transcribe or to claim, by publishing them, to have been the one who created it when it's actually a note-by-note copy of a copyrighted song.

I hope this is neither too windy nor unclear as an addendum to the feedback truncated in the partial quote above my remarks.

#11
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#12
Sorry, jeekging, but your post was incomplete. Can anyone else address the issues I seconded and added?
#13
Interesting reading ^, thanks for the input.

Is there really no way of printing a Tab Pro tab?

Should I change to another program? It's so much more helpful to have the paper printed tab that can be carried anywhere. The attraction to Tab Pro for me was one month's usage for only $3.99 - suits me as I can get the tabs I need to keep me busy for 4-5 months. Perhaps that's why it's been made impossible to print Tab Pro tabs (is it?) - to keep people paying the subscriptions? C*nts.
#14
I have been a Guitar Pro user for a couple of years now and I can honestly say that I am INCREDIBLY disappointed in Ultimate-Guitar.com for pushing Tab Pro so hard. It's rare to find a GuitarPro file that hasn't been "removed per request from publisher" or whatever. At first, I thought it was some kind of copyright infringement issue, until I realized that it was just UG trying to push TabPro. I even subscribed to TabPro to give it a fair chance. But let's face it... TabPro is anything but "Pro." First off, it's a web based tab READING program. You can't create your own tab files, you can't really do anything but let the file play in old school midi voices. You can't download it, modify it, convert it to midi... yada yada. Basically, it sucks!

The biggest thing that pisses me off though, is the 5 star rating given to every single TabPro file, even though it's just a stolen GP file that's been put into TabPro. Even if the GP file has 2 stars... the stolen transcription, translated into TabPro is automatically given 5 stars. Oh... and then of course UG makes the GP file unavailable.

I'm calling BS. Total bummer. Bottom line, TabPro sucks.
#15
Not sure if someone else has said this above, but here is my critique.

There is a problem with the pitch and tempo knobs (might apply to the others too, not sure). If I change the tempo to a song, and click play too soon, the whole interface locks up and I have to refresh the window (to prevent this I need to wait for some 10 seconds to make sure it has loaded properly). Also, sometimes clicking 'Play' plays the song, but the bar is frozen and stands still at the note it was last paused it.

Aside from this, it does good for me.
#16
I bought this $50 hunk o shit after too much gin. I thought I was buying Guitar Pro. Oops.
#17
What I meant to say was to avoid Tab Pro at all costs. I've used guitar pro for years and its great. Tab Pro is nothing like Guitar Pro.
#18
Thank You for the input. I am just learning to play lead guitar and was looking for something that would help with speed and coordination. I always look up the reviews before trying anything and yours seems honest and direct. Again thank you for pe=reventing me from wasting time and money.
#19
I will throw in my two cents that their customer service SUCKS!!!!!! I tried out the free trial and felt like it was a bait and switch. They make you choose which subscription service you would like to have IF you like the service after you trial. Unless, of course, you choose the Lifetime Membership - then you don't get a free trial, just the right to cancel the service within 14 days. You get charged right away and there's no way to simply click "cancel" within your account page. You actually have to get a hold of someone at customer service which seems to be lagging (it's been 3 days and I have yet to get a response). Oh, did I mention that they do all this without telling you that when you choose "Lifetime" that you are waiving your right to a free trial and that you will be charged right away? They just go ahead and do it...I'm sure it's buried in the terms agreement but let's be fair - that ain't no way to treat your customers. So - just be sure you like it before you sign up for it because it's yours whether you want it or not!
#20
hi my question is going to be
What can I do UG pro tabs songs while playing down the page does not in itself?

excusme ı dont speak english
#21
Quote by talawolfy
I will throw in my two cents that their customer service SUCKS!!!!!! I tried out the free trial and felt like it was a bait and switch. They make you choose which subscription service you would like to have IF you like the service after you trial. Unless, of course, you choose the Lifetime Membership - then you don't get a free trial, just the right to cancel the service within 14 days. You get charged right away and there's no way to simply click "cancel" within your account page. You actually have to get a hold of someone at customer service which seems to be lagging (it's been 3 days and I have yet to get a response). Oh, did I mention that they do all this without telling you that when you choose "Lifetime" that you are waiving your right to a free trial and that you will be charged right away? They just go ahead and do it...I'm sure it's buried in the terms agreement but let's be fair - that ain't no way to treat your customers. So - just be sure you like it before you sign up for it because it's yours whether you want it or not!


This is exactly what happened to me two days ago, only I got charged for TWO LIFETIME subscriptions through Paypal, who say they can't help. Ultimate Guitar have ignored my emails so far.
#23
i currently purchased 1 month of tab pro to give it a try. In the middle of a tab , the screen changed and thank me for purchasing the life time subscription and went on to charge me 49.99. I did not authorize guitar pro to charge me 49.99 i did not request the life time subscription. I had to go in and cancel the life time and they state they will refund within the next 4 days, but i should not have to go though that . i did not request it and i feel that is wrong to do to someone .
#24
only a beginner but Ultimate-Guitar should distance themselves from TAB PRO. Ultimate-Guitar seems like a good product and TAB PRO seem like a con (virus )
#25
I currently own Guitar Pro 6, would it be worth it to get Tab Pro as well in order to have access to tabs that might not be available for Guitar Pro?

What are the pros and cons of Tab Pro versus Guitar Pro?[/QUOTE

This company is super shady. They charged me for a life membership..but also continue to charge my card a monthly rate...and there is NO WAY TO STOP THEM other than turning your card off at your bank.
#26
Quote by fanapathy
I wanted to put an audio comparison clip in there but the post was already too long

This is a sample I made from one of my tabs - playing back the same tab-section first in Tab Pro, then in the original.

http://youtu.be/OO4TMRWky-4

Now this is by no means a horrible example, but a general demonstration of difference and how TP fails to recognize/play backing instruments.


I have GP 6.2. Just from this audio comparison alone I have no interest in TP what so ever.
GP 6 is hands down the more superior based on sound quality. In all fareness I have never used TP myself.
Last edited by slyfive1 at Apr 10, 2016,
#28
Thanks for your input & reviews people.. I had a demo of this ultimate guitar tab pro & was considering buying.. But not now.. Thanks guys
#30
Quote by fanapathy
^Feedback it is, then.

...

That was a way longer write-up than intended. If I were to rate, I'd currently give this about 4.5/10.
I hope some users or developers found this review/feedback useful.

Cheers

That was an AWSOME review, detailed and constructive. There should be more users like you!
#31
don't get this, i wanted to try it out for 7 days, it said it had a discount on lifetime usage, clicked on it to see the cost and now I'm stuck for life. NO refunds, so i payed 44 €. bullshit