#1
Hey!

I'm looking for a nice -not to pricey- distortion pedal to order from Thomann with my Harley Benton g212 V.

I'm playing a JCM 800 with p90's and it's alot of dist, but sometimes I need a bit more, since I can't play too loud.

I'm looking for a punchy dist, something like early Green Day (1st & second album) or like Rancid, which would be early Green Day but a bit fuller sound. Punk dist basically.

Oh right! And also, could you give me some info on how to warm up a tube amp such as the jcm 800 2204? Would be awesome!

Thanks!
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#2
Boost it with a tubescreamer. That's what Green Day did to Plexi's and JCM800's early in their career.
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#3
-Boost, not distortion.

-Consider a better made cab like the Marshall 212.

-regarding boosts, a full tone OCD or a Bad Monkey if you don't have the budget.
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#4
Bad Monkeys are pretty freaking awesome. In my opinion they're very underrated, especially since you can get one at a very reasonable price.

And I agree with bartdevil_metal. Boost the signal with an overdrive instead of a distortion pedal. You'll get a much better sound from your Marshall.
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some distortions can work pretty well as a boost. I prefer a ts or sd1 (or timmy), but they can work.

the harley benton cab isn't bad, fwiw.
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#7
I use a Bad Monkey too, the thing is great, for the price it's hard to really say no, I think I paid like £29 for mine, which for a pedal that good is greatly pleasing.

Give it a try.
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#8
I suggest a Hardwire CM-2 over the bad monkey. Same design, but better quality in terms of noticeable change when you change settings (and true bypass; not a good or bad, just a noteable difference).
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I suggest a Hardwire CM-2 over the bad monkey. Same design, but better quality in terms of noticeable change when you change settings (and true bypass; not a good or bad, just a noteable difference).


Well it is the same type of pedal from the same company, but it's double the price. The Bad Monkey is pretty good and in terms of build quality the low price doesn't let it down, so bang for buck I still think it's the best option.

That said I haven't tried the Hardwire CM-2, but I really rate the Bad Monkey up with anything, so it would have to be pretty amazing to be worth getting at double the price.
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#10
Should also address the second part of the post:- Warming up a valve amp is as easy as flipping the standby switch and leaving it for a few minutes. If you're coming in from very cold temperatures where the valves have been allowed to get cold, allow the amp to acclimatise to the room temp for a few minutes, then flip the standby on. If using the amp in a gig and there is a shortish intermission (i.e. half hour or less) flip the amp back to standby to avoid turning off completely and re-warming.

There are other rules regarding humidities, but here in the UK we don't have that problem (by and large) so I'm sure someone from Mississippi (or other swamp) will weigh in.



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the harley benton cab isn't bad, fwiw.


Sorry, i snobbed out on that one. Is it not made of balsa wood then?
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#11
Which JCM800?
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#12
I'm buying the Harley Benton, it's cheap and sound awesome.

Cathbard, I have the JCM 800 2204.
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Quote by bartdevil_metal

Sorry, i snobbed out on that one. Is it not made of balsa wood then?


it seems to be plywood

i think marshall has gone back to ply recently, but until recently their 2x12s were particleboard/mdf
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#14
Ah well. I shouldn't have judged just by the brand name. Probably not going to trade my Orange in for it any time soon though
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#15
oh no i mean i wouldn't suggest doing that

but if you don't already have a cab and know you want v30s, you're almost getting the cab for free. And it's a perfectly serviceable, plywood cab which sounds pretty good.

heck, the fact it's front-loaded means that speaker swaps are so quick and easy that (if you have room) you could keep it solely for testing speakers.
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oh no i mean i wouldn't suggest doing that

but if you don't already have a cab and know you want v30s, you're almost getting the cab for free. And it's a perfectly serviceable, plywood cab which sounds pretty good.

heck, the fact it's front-loaded means that speaker swaps are so quick and easy that (if you have room) you could keep it solely for testing speakers.

Anything, I mean ANYTHING, is better than my MG412a -.-

I throw up everytime I play it..
#17
oh yeah i mean it should be way better than that.
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#18
Not OCD, it doesn't function well as a boost.its really a dedicated distortion pedal.
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Boost it with a tubescreamer. That's what Green Day did to Plexi's and JCM800's early in their career.
I think they still do that actually, though with a Blues Driver now
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Quote by Gillthenasty
I'm buying the Harley Benton, it's cheap and sound awesome.

Cathbard, I have the JCM 800 2204.

Master volume on 10 and then adjust the gain until it sounds right.


Oh, you can't play loud. Well that's a bummer because to get those tones best you need to be damn loud. So ......... Bad Monkey or maybe a Timmy. Bad Monkey will be a lot cheaper, just get that.
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Quote by Cathbard
Master volume on 10 and then adjust the gain until it sounds right.


Oh, you can't play loud. Well that's a bummer because to get those tones best you need to be damn loud. So ......... Bad Monkey or maybe a Timmy. Bad Monkey will be a lot cheaper, just get that.

I'm playing in a garage in the middle of a neighbourhood, so we can't play too loud, which is a bummer.
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Not OCD, it doesn't function well as a boost.its really a dedicated distortion pedal.


yeah it'll do at a pinch if you just happen to have one and have nothing else, but if you're buying a dedicated boost, there are better options, IMO. That's based on my cheapo joyo clone, lol.
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