#1
I'll be playing rhythm guitar in a nu metal group soon, and i'm about to buy a new amplifier and i choose the Peavey Vypyr series. Now i got a question: how much power? Will the 75 W be enough in the rehearsal? Or i'll need the 100 W? I've not seen the room already but they told me it's not so big. I don't know anything else, thanks for the help!
#3
You only need 1 Watts.

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#4
If you're set on the Vypyr then I'd go 100w. You'll need considerably less if you decide to go valve in the future though.
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#5
Save up a bit more and get the Tube 60. Trust me, just do it.

EDIT: Didn't see that Greg already recommended it, so yeah.
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Deff get the Tube 60 over the 75/100
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#7
Unless your drummer is monster from the muppets... 75 watts is plenty.

That said, as others suggested, get the 60 watt tube model. UNLESS you're very abusive to your gear and want to be able to toss the amp off the back of your trucks.
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Unless your drummer is monster from the muppets... 75 watts is plenty.


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#10
I ran my 5150 at 60w (2 valves pulled) for a good while, it was fine. If you're getting mic'ed up you can get away with pretty much anything, otherwise 50w + to be safe and you're good.

These days I'm running a 35w Cornford Hellcat as my main amp, thing is loud as hell. My advice to you (as others have said) if you're going for a Vypyr you have to get the tube version, the Tube 60 is probably louder than the 75watt solid state but more importantly it sounds better.
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#11
Problem is that i will most probably need to move the amp back and forth between home and the rehearsal... with the tube it could be a problem considering the price of the tubes. Anyway thanks to all!
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Problem is that i will most probably need to move the amp back and forth between home and the rehearsal... with the tube it could be a problem considering the price of the tubes. Anyway thanks to all!

What does this have to do with the price of the tubes? I'm pretty sure the tubes will last at least a year. And they aren't that expensive. There are only three tubes in the amp that you need to replace once in a while. That's almost the same as replacing your guitar strings (that per year will most likely cost more).
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Problem is that i will most probably need to move the amp back and forth between home and the rehearsal... with the tube it could be a problem considering the price of the tubes. Anyway thanks to all!


Tubes aren't that expensive, and the Tube 60 uses one 12AX7 and two 6L6GC's, making is extremely cheap to maintain.

That amp, plus the floor pedal that you can get with it, all for a cheap used price, make it a great choice, even if it means saving a bit more.

Also, I thought you were looking for a thrash tone, but are in a nu metal band? Eh.
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What does this have to do with the price of the tubes? I'm pretty sure the tubes will last at least a year.

In fact i didn't say it has to do with the price of the tube itself, i meant it worry me a bit moving a tube amp which i read it's a little "fragile", and that the tubes can break easy, and since i really can't waste too much money i thought a solid state could be more reliable in that matter. But i never had a tube amp so i don't know, i just read it, and i asked for that reason. xD

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Also, I thought you were looking for a thrash tone, but are in a nu metal band? Eh.

Yeah you're right but fact is i like to play thrash metal for myself, and i first think of making my OWN sound, and we'r gonna surely play some thrash cover but we'll cover also some nu metal so i told i'll play nu metal, just for having some advice in this way too.
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Tubes aren't that fragile. I had to put almost all of my body weight on a bad groove tubes 6l6 to crush it. Thats the only time I've ever broken one.
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^^ The vyper tube will be your best bet for various heavy tones on a budget. And Peavey has a reputation for solid products. It might not be quite as solid as a 5150 but I doubt there'll be that much difference in reliability between the SS and tube Vyper. Anyway, the tube version sounds easily good enough to justify any possible downsides.
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In fact i didn't say it has to do with the price of the tube itself, i meant it worry me a bit moving a tube amp which i read it's a little "fragile", and that the tubes can break easy, and since i really can't waste too much money i thought a solid state could be more reliable in that matter. But i never had a tube amp so i don't know, i just read it, and i asked for that reason. xD


Yeah you're right but fact is i like to play thrash metal for myself, and i first think of making my OWN sound, and we'r gonna surely play some thrash cover but we'll cover also some nu metal so i told i'll play nu metal, just for having some advice in this way too.


Tubes are harder to break than you think. If my old 5150 could rattle around in my car all the time, or the back of the band van, than you'll be just fine.
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thanks for helping! fact is that there's really something that stops me from relying tubes for an extreme heavy tone... i kinda read that they do tend to sound "warm", and i prefer a sound that's more "metallic" and rich of high frequencies, so that was my doubt... as well, i prefer a more "raw" tone, naturally still in limits of audibility (i love old hardcore punk or Darrell sound for for example, he was like a bunch of razorblades smashing between themselves but he was still defined, even if he maybe lacked a little of bass imho)... so if tubes are perfect for me, then what use are the solid state ones??? i guess my only way to settle down this thing is to test some amps live with my guitar xD
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Tube amps are not so fragile things, I had my 5150 and my other guitarists Valveking in the back of a van touring the country playing 3 + shows a week for 3 years not to mention back n forth from our practice unit, people sitting on them in the van, knocked about and basically taking the rigours of touring, never had to replace a valve as a result of damage.

So long as you take care of them and don't treat them bad then there's no reason why you should have to worry about breaking valves from just moving it around. Give it 10mins to cool off before you move it if you can, otherwise crack on.

Get the Tube version, or you will be sorry you didn't!
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#20
Have you looked at the Dime amps?
They are pretty cheap and based off the old Randall RG100 that Dimebag used to play. Actually one of the better new SS amps and it is fairly cheap in the amp world
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thanks for helping! fact is that there's really something that stops me from relying tubes for an extreme heavy tone... i kinda read that they do tend to sound "warm", and i prefer a sound that's more "metallic" and rich of high frequencies, so that was my doubt... as well, i prefer a more "raw" tone, naturally still in limits of audibility (i love old hardcore punk or Darrell sound for for example, he was like a bunch of razorblades smashing between themselves but he was still defined, even if he maybe lacked a little of bass imho)... so if tubes are perfect for me, then what use are the solid state ones??? i guess my only way to settle down this thing is to test some amps live with my guitar xD


A tube amp can still sound metal. A better definition, within the same class, a tube amp will sound more harmonic, whereas a SS amp is more likely to sound sterile.

Vypyr Tube 60 over the SS versions... with a 60 water tube, you can easily get over most drummers, unless he plays so hard he has to change skins between songs.

If you can get more moolah together, get the 6505+... that's practically the perennial metal amp.
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#22
i said no bullshit.

this is all bullshit.

you came here for good advice, which you got and have ignored.

why?




TS - if you want a "metallic" sound get a Line 6 Spider IV 75 watt combo.
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TS - if you want a "metallic" sound get a Line 6 Spider IV 75 watt combo.


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i said no bullshit.

this is all bullshit.

you came here for good advice, which you got and have ignored.

why?



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#25
^ that's what i thought.
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