#1
Is anyone else shocked about how little coverage this story has got?

Links: http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/04/why-dr-kermit-gosnells-trial-should-be-a-front-page-story/274944/
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100211991/the-kermit-gosnell-case-confirms-that-late-term-abortion-can-amount-to-legalised-infanticide/?fb

tl;dr: An abortion doctor regularly murdered babies that survived abortions. His clinic was also completely unhygienic. The subject matter is pretty disturbing and some descriptions are quite graphic, just a warning before you click the articles.
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#4
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Teasing him like that probably led him to crime.
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#6
You should really have a tl;dr in the op.

Shit is sick, but sadly not surprising.
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#7
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Teasing him like that probably led him to crime.


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#8
Typical mainstream media. If these babies were killed by guns how much coverage do you think this would have gotten?*


*I was watching Fox News yesterday for whatever reason and this is pretty much a direct quote.
#9
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Typical mainstream media. If these babies were killed by guns how much coverage do you think this would have gotten?*


*I was watching Fox News yesterday for whatever reason and this is pretty much a direct quote.

They do have a point, no matter how hyperbolically they made it. It's hard not to think that this hasn't made front pages due to it going agaisnt the media's narrative on abortion.
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#10
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They do have a point, no matter how hyperbolically they made it. It's hard not to think that this hasn't made front pages due to it going agaisnt the media's narrative on abortion.

In America Fox News has higher rating than the other 24 hour new networks combined, plus their website is the most visited too. They are the mainstream media.
#11
It's because it will put a damper on the legal medical associations. Plus it's a horrific newsline, nobody wants to hear about mutilated babies, and no one wants to push into some form of abortion debate because we all know how played out those are.

There are so many stories that should make the headlines, but I think that live trials are nothing but a peanut gallery.
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#12
How can the baby have survived an abortion? If it was old enough to survive outside of the womb unsupported then it must have been too old to abort.

Edit: oh, they were illegal abortions. I sees.
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#13
this actually supports the arguments for legal abortion. it's probably not being reported on because it is so disturbing
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#14
poll plz

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On a serious note, this guy reminds me of a Nazi doctor. Shit's messed up.
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#16
Other Abortion clinics have come out and said they don't want to comment on the trial because it will bring the whole industry down. but this is what actually happens in clinics, its all blood and decapitation. ughh sickening man. go to another normal abortion clinic and see their practice its the same only the baby is a few months younger in the mothers womb.
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Other Abortion clinics have come out and said they don't want to comment on the trial because it will bring the whole industry down. but this is what actually happens in clinics, its all blood and decapitation. ughh sickening man. go to another normal abortion clinic and see their practice its the same only the baby is a few months younger in the mothers womb.


lol
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#18
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An abortion doctor regularly murdered babies that survived abortions.

Well that doesn't make sense.

He was merely finishing the job
#21
What lack of coverage? I saw it on TV or read about it every day it was going on.
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#22
I think the story and clips of him were on the news before his trial. Altogether this triggered that autonomic stomach nauseation/vomit response. It's a horrific case.
#23
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Not at all

Dude was inducing labor, delivering live babies, and cutting their spinal cords with scissors.
#24
Make abortion clinics more widely available then.

In the meantime, this is horrible and this scissors to the spine is making it difficult for me to sit comfortably
#25
that's really ****ed up.
but i know someone's going to use one of those articles to name their new metal band.
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What lack of coverage? I saw it on TV or read about it every day it was going on.

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Make abortion clinics more widely available then.

In the meantime, this is horrible and this scissors to the spine is making it difficult for me to sit comfortably

As far as I'm aware, abortion clinics are widely available, but abortions are illegal after 24 weeks. That was this guy's specialty. As well as killing two of his patients, and essentially having no sanitation at all. Read the article. It's ****ed up.
#31
Right, so like, what's the conclusion here?:

option A: he's a bad guy because he was unsafe, unsanitary, and he spread disease and killed the women?

or

option B: he's a bad guy because he was killing babies, the mothers of whom willingly walked into the place to have them killed, because abortion after 24 weeks is illegal.

See, I think this guy was bad moreso for reason A. Yeah, killing babies isn't great, but it's not like the guy was hunting down women and murdering their babies. These women killed their babies--they just paid a hitman to do it. And I think we can agree that they would have all preferred to go to a safe, sanitary, licensed doctor to have it done, only the government/society has decided that licensed doctors may not carry out this procedure. The guy is no good, and that's no lie, but we should at least consider placing a tiny bit of the blame onto the mothers and the government/society that has ... um... made safer alternatives illegal.
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#32
Yeah, I am not reading that article even if you pay me. Nightmares aren't fun, kids.
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#33
Bad doctor.

It really has no bearing on the abortion debate. I mean, making abortions illegal or harder to obtain will totally drive down abortion rates, protect the health of the mother and improve society as a whole.
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#34
see, this is why abortion should be illegal!! it's for the health and safety of women everywhere! those pro-abortionists will try to tell you otherwise but here is the truth right in front of you!!! god bless
#35
Watched a documentary on this in bible class lol

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Right, so like, what's the conclusion here?:

option A: he's a bad guy because he was unsafe, unsanitary, and he spread disease and killed the women?

or

option B: he's a bad guy because he was killing babies, the mothers of whom willingly walked into the place to have them killed, because abortion after 24 weeks is illegal.

See, I think this guy was bad moreso for reason A. Yeah, killing babies isn't great, but it's not like the guy was hunting down women and murdering their babies. These women killed their babies--they just paid a hitman to do it. And I think we can agree that they would have all preferred to go to a safe, sanitary, licensed doctor to have it done, only the government/society has decided that licensed doctors may not carry out this procedure. The guy is no good, and that's no lie, but we should at least consider placing a tiny bit of the blame onto the mothers and the government/society that has ... um... made safer alternatives illegal.


There is absolutely no reason you have to separate what exactly made what happened here so terrible other than to make you look like an asshole. It was terrible, period. "Yeah, killing babies isn't great," how the fuck do you expect me to believe anything rational will come after that line? You say he's pretty much a paid hitman and you want the gov't to instead take over this job as a paid hitman for him? How about it stays illegal because it's terribly barbaric and grotesque to inhumanely murder a living being? Make it safer huh? Maybe we should be able to send in hits for anyone to the government and they'll do it for us so as to protect us from bodily harm when we're trying to murder other people. THAT'LL MAKE US A BETTER SOCIETY

killing live babies is not a fucking abortion. it's killing live babies.

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#37
**** YEAH ABORTION

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