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Hi. Yeah, we've had a lot of these today. Don't come in if you're tired of the discussion or if you think it's over-done or whatever. But this topic just popped into my head and I feel like I should get some more opinions.


Why the hell should I want gender equality? It does no good to me. In fact, the way the world is now, it gives me a certain advantage over 50% of the world's population (especially in this part of the world, where women might as well be sexy sheep). I could get hired over a woman who is more qualified than I, just because she's a woman. So why should I make this go away?

Rationally it makes no sense to me. There's more focus on me in the media, I'm more likely to succeed in my selected field, I get paid MORE for doing the same job and the only reason things are that way is my genitals, which have nothing to do with whatever field I'm in, unless it's porn or something in that vein.

So why in the world would men allow women to have the same jobs or pay or opportunities? Wouldn't it just be logical to retain the status quo because it helps us as individuals to get an edge?


I'mtotally100%seriousandthisisinnowayajokeatallokaydiscuss.


P.S. Please, mods, don't close this if you think it's an arbitrary discussion. I worked really hard on this post to impress genghisghandi, I don't want to be robbed of that experience. Seriously.
#2
you're a greedy bastard
It's over simplified, So what!

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#4
Because it's wrong and other people exist, man.
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#6
Social pressure I understand. It could be a SECRET movement, like the Illuminati! We'll use secret codes and secret rooms and secret treasures and OH MY GOD THIS IS GONNA BE SO FUN
#7
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Greed is to want MORE privilege, I just want to be allowed to keep what I have.


Here, instead of explaining why it's wrong i'll use a bit of a more extreme analogy


let's imagine you're born into a fairly sized slave owning plantation In the southern regions of america during some time they had slaves, and also activists for the slaves.


You're the guy saying, 'Yeah but it makes MY life better! Why should I want to get rid of all these slaves? it shouldn't matter that life is unfair and unjust for them, because I was born into this slave owning family, I should get the benefits!'


understand why it's stupid now?
It's over simplified, So what!

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#8
Okay, Mitt Romney.
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#12
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why is slavery banned again? **** that noise, give me back my white privilege


Check your privilege? More like enslave your privilege.

It get's hard with this privilege, though..I mean...really...I'm just a...

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#13
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Here, instead of explaining why it's wrong i'll use a bit of a more extreme analogy


let's imagine you're born into a fairly sized slave owning plantation In the southern regions of america during some time they had slaves, and also activists for the slaves.


You're the guy saying, 'Yeah but it makes MY life better! Why should I want to get rid of all these slaves? it shouldn't matter that life is unfair and unjust for them, because I was born into this slave owning family, I should get the benefits!'


understand why it's stupid now?

I get why slavery is bad, but slavery doesn't help me. I'm not white. Being a man helps me, it helps a lot actually, so why should I try to cut this help off?


See let me try and provide YOU with an extreme analogy:


You make $1100 a week where everyone else makes $1000. You get that extra hundred just because you have nice hair. Do you shave, or take care of your hair?

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#14
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I get why slavery is bad, but slavery doesn't help me. I'm not white. Being a man helps me, it helps a lot actually, so why should I try to cut this help off?


See let me try and provide YOU with an extreme analogy:


You make $1100 a week where everyone else makes $1000. You get that extra hundred just because you have nice hair. Do you shave, or take care of your hair?


You clearly aren't understanding what an analogy is
(let's go over this again, you were born into a white family, you are white. Your life is great because of all the free slave labour you receive, because you were born white, into a white slave owning family.and you can't possibly understand why anyone would want to get rid of slaves. because it makes your life better.)


well, I don't really think your analogy is fair because those other people could just as easily change their haircut and make the same amount as you

where as in real life, changing sex isn't something done so easily, physically or mentally.

Someone shouldn't be discriminated on by their gender, and you should feel bad saying that just because it benefits you and hurts someone else you don't see any reason you should try to fix it...


imagine if you were on the other side?
know what empathy is?
It's over simplified, So what!

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Okay Ali Romney.
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#16
I just hid the chat thread and I don't know how to unhide.

I promise I will make an OT post after someone helps me D:

edit: Nevermind, crisis averted
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#17
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I just hid the chat thread and I don't know how to unhide.

I promise I will make an OT post after someone helps me D:

it's at the very bottom of the pit index

edit: under control options or something like that. warning: this version unhides all of your hidden threads.
#18
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I just hid the chat thread and I don't know how to unhide.

I promise I will make an OT post after someone helps me D:

Log out, open the thread, copy the URL, log in, paste.
Or try searching for it.
#19
Why am I not allowed to kill other people? It would benefit me immensely to kill that teacher who always gives me bad grades :/
#20
i think i understand what you mean. this is why there aren't more males who go around in the streets protesting in the name of feminism. i'm all for equality if i can support it by just voting or doing something that isn't much trouble, but as i'm on the winning side, i'd be lazy about it until maybe it affects family.
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#21
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You clearly aren't understanding what an analogy is
(let's go over this again, you were born into a white family, you are white. Your life is great because of all the free slave labour you receive, because you were born white, into a white slave owning family.and you can't possibly understand why anyone would want to get rid of slaves. because it makes your life better.)


well, I don't really think your analogy is fair because those other people could just as easily change their haircut and make the same amount as you

where as in real life, changing sex isn't something done so easily, physically or mentally.

Someone shouldn't be discriminated on by their gender, and you should feel bad saying that just because it benefits you and hurts someone else you don't see any reason you should try to fix it...


imagine if you were on the other side?
know what empathy is?

Okay, how about everyone else can't grow hair? Or they're all gingers! Much better analogy.


Why imagine if I were on the other side? I'm already on the good side, why should I even go there? Is this a play on my emotions, well ****ing done man you've already made me angry.

Okay, here's an amalogy:

You and another guy are both competing for the same job. Would you let him take it? Of course not! So it makes no sense to allow women more rights, from a male perspective. I'd argue that all "male feminists" are traitors.

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#22
Why should the amount of money people earn be based on if the have a penis or not? Why should it depend on anything other than how well you can do your job?
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#23
inclusion of women expands and diversifies the labour market, employers are able to hire equivalent workers at a discount, working parents alleviate financial pressures etc. etc.
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#24
Quote by ali.guitarkid7
You make $1100 a week where everyone else makes $1000. You get that extra hundred just because you have nice hair. Do you shave, or take care of your hair?

I actually do get lots of free stuff all the time because people like my hair, and I still don't really get what your point is.
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This has to be trolling.

Nope. This is what people in the middle east actually believe.
#27
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inclusion of women expands and diversifies the labour market, employers are able to hire equivalent workers at a discount, working parents relieves financial pressure etc. etc.

Well, duh, if I were a business owner I'd hire only women. They're better to look at and work for less.
#28
sure if you're looking at this like an economist. but we humans have empathy for one another.
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#29
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Okay, how about everyone else can't grow hair? Or they're all gingers! Much better analogy.


Why imagine if I were on the other side? I'm already on the good side, why should I even go there? Is this a play on my emotions, well ****ing done man you've already made me angry.

Okay, here's an amalogy:

You and another guy are both competing for the same job. Would you let him take it? Of course not! So it makes no sense to allow women more rights, from a male perspective. I'd argue that all "male feminists" are traitors.


oh lord

I'm just going to ignore that people with this mindset actually exist in the world and pretend I never saw this thread

If you ever want to be considered intelligent and/or enlightened ever again, please let me know and we can work something out
It's over simplified, So what!

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#30
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Well, duh, if I were a business owner I'd hire only women. They're better to look at and work for less.

on the other hand, sexual harassment lawsuits
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#31
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Nope. This is what people in the middle east actually believe.

Hey that's racist dude, why would you judge me based on my race?


But yeah that's true we mostly do.
#32
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on the other hand, sexual harassment lawsuits

it's the governments fault for allowing people to interfere in another's business


if ali wants to hire hot bitches, he should be able to hire hot bitches. no government agency should tell corporations to share all the bitches
#33
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it's the governments fault for allowing people to interfere in another's business


if ali wants to hire hot bitches, he should be able to hire hot bitches. no government agency should tell corporations to share all the bitches

See now you guys are getting me. Having to share bitches is SOCIALISM.


Hahaha but seriously man, well done on not being a traitor to your gender
#35
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why is slavery banned again? **** that noise, give me back my white privilege


This. _Slavery_ was a good person.
For how can I give the King his place of worth above all else
when I spend my time striving to place the crown upon myself?
#36
Hey ali, you know who believed in universal equality?

Pirates

You know who are generally considered totally badasses and wholly awesome?

pirates

ali don't you wanna be badass and awesome?

be like pirates
It's over simplified, So what!

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Big ones can be fun in some ways but generally, they are a pain in the ass.
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#38
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Hey ali, you know who believed in universal equality?

Pirates

You know who are generally considered totally badasses and wholly awesome?

pirates

ali don't you wanna be badass and awesome?

be like pirates

pirates support slavery and men's rights
#39
Okay so far no one has presented a clear and logical argument as to why I could be wrong and I disproved everything else, so it's pretty obvious that I'm in the right here. Mods you can close this thread if you want.
#40
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pirates support slavery and men's rights


yeah but pirates are awesome so that can be overlooked
It's over simplified, So what!

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