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#1
Hey guys.

So pretty self explanatory. My band is somewhat established, we are based out of Ottawa, Canada. We found our drummer to be lacking, his musicianship is great, but he doesn't try outside of the band. He missed practice often, albeit with good, valid excuses, but still, it's annoying.

He's 18 and we are all 19, the drinking age in ontario, so it's a pain to book a venue for 300$ more for an all ages show. He doesn't even bring any fans, while we all try to, and the bassist brings alot of his friends consistently too.

He still owes us 30$ for CD's and stuff, as we've just released our ep. The royalties only go to the current bandmates, at the time of the sale, so we wouldn't pay him anymore.

So basicly how do we do it? We've had 6 drummers already, so we hope we don't have to find another 4 after him.

We have a fill in drummer for the time being and future gigs, but he can't do it because he's also in a really popular local band.


Tldr: How should I and my bandmates be tactful about firing our 7th drummer?

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Lol, we all owe our singer like 50$, its future royalties that's the concern.
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Tldr: How should I and my bandmates be tactful about firing our 7th drummer?




TACTFULLY, Dudes
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#9
Light his drums on fire. If he doesn't get the picture, light him on fire. If that still doesn't work, light yourself on fire.
#11
This only becomes a real question if you have gear at his place.


However, consider that 30$ is nothing and a good drummer with who you get along is priceless. In a few months he'll be 19 and those problems will go away on their own. Politely ask him for the money, write more songs and remember that band members don't always need to be best friends.

(Keep your stand in drummer on the payroll though...)
#12
Have you tried using actual fire?

After actually reading the OP, your drummer sounds like the coolest guy in the band and you all have your panties in a knot over stupid shit. (ZOMG $30! ****ing have him take you all to mcdonalds for lunch and you're even.) If he has "good, valid" excuses for why he can't be at practice then what's the problem?
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#13
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This only becomes a real question if you have gear at his place.


However, consider that 30$ is nothing and a good drummer with who you get along is priceless. In a few months he'll be 19 and those problems will go away on their own. Politely ask him for the money, write more songs and remember that band members don't always need to be best friends.

(Keep your stand in drummer on the payroll though...)



It's not that he's not 19, moreso that he doesnt seem to care. We are all music majors in university except him. We want to get someone more professional and in it for the long haul and we've requested that from him in the past, to no avail.
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#14
Tell him he's wasting all the band's money and getting a new drummer isn't a big deal anyway since you've already had ****ing 7 of them so what's the big deal?
#18
Maybe you could focus your effort on finding a new drummer that fits your needs.Once you've done this,parting ways with your current drummer probably will seem less daunting.Just a thought,good luck.
#19
How can you be 19 and have had 7 drummers? I'm honestly curious about a band bio. Also do you have any songs we can hear? I'm sometimes in Ottawa and love seeing shows.
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How can you be 19 and have had 7 drummers? I'm honestly curious about a band bio. Also do you have any songs we can hear? I'm sometimes in Ottawa and love seeing shows.


It's a long story of drummers moving, drummers filling in for us, new drummers joining us but then quitting when they realized how serious we were, our gigging schedule and our ep and everything.
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#21
Just sit down with your drummer (and the rest of the band) and say, "Look, we're trying to go somewhere with this band (we're quite serious), and we've had to hire a fill-in drummer for several shows. So, we're replacing you. It's nothing personal, but a band is kind of a business in a way. You're not bringing in any fans (who are basically clients), and you're not showing up to practice. We can't continue this working relationship with you. We'd love to stay friends with, but we can't be in this band with you anymore. We're sorry." Then, have everyone go home.
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#24
You said he is already in another band... so I doubt dropping him is going to be a massive deal. Not like he won't be able to make music anymore. Even more, you mentioned the other band he is in has a decent following.

I'd frame it off that. "Look, you have another band you are in that is great... but we need someone fully committed to our band. Missed practice, etc..."

If he is playing with someone else and not fully bought in with you guys, sounds like he made his bed.
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You said he is already in another band... so I doubt dropping him is going to be a massive deal. Not like he won't be able to make music anymore. Even more, you mentioned the other band he is in has a decent following.

I'd frame it off that. "Look, you have another band you are in that is great... but we need someone fully committed to our band. Missed practice, etc..."

If he is playing with someone else and not fully bought in with you guys, sounds like he made his bed.

Actually, they have a fill-in drummer for a few shows/practices, when the actual drummer can't make it. L2readtheOPcarefully.
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Just sit down with your drummer and say, "Look, we're trying to go somewhere with this, and we've had to hire a fill-in drummer for several shows. So, we're replacing you. It's nothing personal, but a band is kind of a business in a way. You're not bringing in any fans (who are basically clients), and you're not showing up to practice. We can't continue this working relationship with you. We'd love to stay friends with, but we can't be in this band with you anymore. We're sorry." Then, have everyone go home.



Hmm. That was well worded. Yeah that'll probably be the best way. best advice in the thread so far. Thanks brother.
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Show him a piece of meat until it completely hypnotizes him, then pretend to throw it but keep it in your hand

Problem solved
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You said he is already in another band... so I doubt dropping him is going to be a massive deal. Not like he won't be able to make music anymore. Even more, you mentioned the other band he is in has a decent following.

I'd frame it off that. "Look, you have another band you are in that is great... but we need someone fully committed to our band. Missed practice, etc..."

If he is playing with someone else and not fully bought in with you guys, sounds like he made his bed.



No, that's our fill in drummer that has the big band. He's the drummer for a really popular local band, but he's got enough time to fill in for our next 2 gigs.

We'd ask him to be our drummer were it not for his schedule
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#29
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Hmm. That was well worded. Yeah that'll probably be the best way. best advice in the thread so far. Thanks brother.

You're welcome.

Btw, downloading your EP. It's pretty cool.
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You're welcome.

Btw, downloading your EP. It's pretty cool.



Thanks man, hope you enjoy!
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#32
I don't know but nowadays practice for my band involves mostly writing new stuff, with the easiness of recording scratch tracks and demoes/my band has our ep too, we are all able to practice at home, does he at least work on his stuff at home? Cause when my band gets together live we haven't had a problem yet and are able to focus on new stuff when we get together.
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I don't know but nowadays practice for my band involves mostly writing new stuff, with the easiness of recording scratch tracks and demoes/my band has our ep too, we are all able to practice at home, does he at least work on his stuff at home? Cause when my band gets together live we haven't had a problem yet and are able to focus on new stuff when we get together.



The problem isnt his playing, which is what makes this harder, it's his commitment to the band and to trying to make it and make money off our music. We are in this for the long haul and he isnt.
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#36
Did he specifically say he isn't in it for the long haul? Why don't you ask him that, along with the other important questions. IMO you shouldn't be asking "how" to fire the drummer, it should come naturally. It would be best to make sure he sees it coming. Have you talked to him about all these problems? Does he want to be in the band? It's possible and better to make the split amicable instead of "firing" him.

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Brb, Fb messaging Rhian Meaney and letting him know he's fired. Problem solved. Thank me later.
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#38
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It's not that he's not 19, moreso that he doesnt seem to care. We are all music majors in university except him. We want to get someone more professional and in it for the long haul and we've requested that from him in the past, to no avail.


So you can all buy HIM McDonalds then?
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Just say "Hey guys, everyone who's still in the band strike a chord!"
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Just say "Hey guys, everyone who's still in the band strike a chord!"


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