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#1
Hey I have a budget of around $800 for a good tube amp. I have a Fender Stratocaster (American standard) guitar.

Right now I'm looking at a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe or a Fender Blues Junior or Deluxe but I'm worried they arent versatile enough. I was thinking I could always get pedals. I'm not sure how good pedals really are I never have used them before. If anyone has experience with pedals can you actually get some good tones from pedals? Mostly like distortion is what I would be lacking with an amp like a blues junior so can you get good

I play SRV, Jimmi Hendrix, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Deep Purple, but also sometimes classic rock like GNR and things that need more distortion. Can anyone recommend me a more versatile tube amp that could kind of work for things like GNR but still sound good for blues.
#2
EVH 5150III mini
Fender Supersonic 22
Marshall JCM2000 DSL401
Krank Chadwick 2x12

You'll have to go used on some of them, but they would all work good
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#3
I have a blues jr. and can tell you with a strat it does a pretty good SRV and Jimi without any pedals, tho for Jimi you'll def want to get a fuzz pedal. I have an analogman sunface and it kills with the blues jr, very Dave Gilmour. Deep purple you'd probably need something more british. If you could find a reasonably priced cab maybe a Mesa TA-15. Theyre extraordinarily versatile.
#4
Peavy 6505+ 112 combo, amazing Metal amp, also works well for rock.
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#5
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Peavy 6505+ 112 combo, amazing Metal amp, also works well for rock.


The guy says he likes Jimi and SRV and you tell him to get a 6505... Only on UG
#6
Hmm... a 6505+ 112 isn't a bad idea, mine sounds pretty good run clean with my Fender Strat... but, in my opinion, I'd track down a used Fender Deluxe Reverb RI. You should be able to get one for $800. Then use a pedal to push higher gain tone.

...also, a second vote for the Supersonic 22.
#7
Quote by GonzoBeatz
The guy says he likes Jimi and SRV and you tell him to get a 6505... Only on UG




You'd be surprised, the 6L6 tubes do push a good clean. I was surprised by the tone I get out of my Strat into my 6505+ combo. It's impressive.

The internet is why people hate on 6505+ clean. It's just not accurate however.

Still, a Fender tube amp is a better choice all around.
#8
I would never suggest a 5150/6505 for anything that requires mid gain or less.

People hate on the cleans, because they are not that great
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#9
Quote by Robbgnarly
I would never suggest a 5150/6505 for anything that requires mid gain or less.

People hate on the cleans, because they are not that great


Well, there are better choices... many many better choices in fact lol

But, they can pull it off alright, it just takes more time.
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Quote by GonzoBeatz
The guy says he likes Jimi and SRV and you tell him to get a 6505... Only on UG



It was either that suggestion or "Save some more money for a Mesa Boogie."


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Well, there are better choices... many many better choices in fact lol

But, they can pull it off alright, it just takes more time.

If there are 'many many better choices in fact,' why would you suggest a 6505 in the first place? I hope you work for Peavey.
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#13
The Fender Blues Deluxe (used) would provide enough money to get a fuzz pedal like the MXR Classic 108 Fuzz, which would make your amp set up versatile enough...
#14
Traynor makes some really solid tubes amps, similar tone to a Marshal and a few voice closer to Fender.
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#15
Bugera BC-30! By far the best amp for its price. It is modeled after the old Voxs from the 60's. You can play everything from BB King and Muddy Waters to Zeppelin and Stones to Rush, Black Sabbath and Van Halen. You can also manipulate channel blending as well. Seriously, check it out.
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Bugera BC-30! By far the best amp for its price. It is modeled after the old Voxs from the 60's. You can play everything from BB King and Muddy Waters to Zeppelin and Stones to Rush, Black Sabbath and Van Halen. You can also manipulate channel blending as well. Seriously, check it out.


I have a Bugera head/cabinet deal that cost me about $600 all together, and I'd definitely recommend their amps as well. Very groovy, vintage sound.
#17
I think the Marshall DSL will be able to hit all of the artist you listed pretty well. I used to have one and it's incredible versatile. Unless your doing thrash metal or something in that ballpark, it will work for whatever you're playing. The only artist you mentioned that aren't actually known for their Marshall sound are SRV and Skynyrd, and even they used Marshalls at some point in their career.

I also like the Supersonic 22. Very underrated amp IMO. That would also get you in the ballpark.

I would stay away from the 6505. I'm a bluesy-rock kinda guy and while they can do crunch, the Marshall will blow them out of the water in that department.

You're going to want pedals to refine your sound. Like stuntman chris said, no matter what amp you get, you're gonna need a fuzz for Hendrix, a tubescreamer for SRV, etc. I think a Marshall would give you the best base sound and you could get pedals to modify the sound toward a particular artist.
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#18
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#20
Quote by srvstrat
Hey I have a budget of around $800 for a good tube amp. I have a Fender Stratocaster (American standard) guitar.

Right now I'm looking at a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe or a Fender Blues Junior or Deluxe but I'm worried they arent versatile enough. I was thinking I could always get pedals. I'm not sure how good pedals really are I never have used them before. If anyone has experience with pedals can you actually get some good tones from pedals? Mostly like distortion is what I would be lacking with an amp like a blues junior so can you get good

I play SRV, Jimmi Hendrix, Lynyrd Skynyrd, Deep Purple, but also sometimes classic rock like GNR and things that need more distortion. Can anyone recommend me a more versatile tube amp that could kind of work for things like GNR but still sound good for blues.


Where in the world do you live and do you gig? Or just home practice?

Personally I think the DSLs are highly flexible.
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#21
Thank you to everyone who replied! I've read all the comments and I'm looking up a bunch of amps now

Quote by R45VT
Where in the world do you live and do you gig? Or just home practice?

Personally I think the DSLs are highly flexible.


OH yeah I forgot to mention I don't think I'm going to be gigging anytime soon this is just for home practice.
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#22
supersonic 60 watt combo.

2 clean channel options to cover the SRV stuff and a gain side that can do a decent enough slush tone.

should be $600 ish used.
#23
the Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 looks great so does the DSL40c but I'm confused what the difference is between them. which one would you guys recommend?

Also I have never even heard of the fender super sonic amp but it looks great aswell I am definitely gonna check out both these amps when I goto my music store soon.
#24
the DSL40c is a new amp, the jcm2000 DSL401 is a discontinued amp.

great amps but they won't do the fender clean you want as well as the supersonic.

def try them though.

the egnater renegade is another good suggestion, as is the egnater tweaker 40 watt combo.
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Quote by 6505fiz


You'd be surprised, the 6L6 tubes do push a good clean. I was surprised by the tone I get out of my Strat into my 6505+ combo. It's impressive.

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#26
Quote by srvstrat
the Marshall JCM2000 DSL401 looks great so does the DSL40c but I'm confused what the difference is between them. which one would you guys recommend?

Also I have never even heard of the fender super sonic amp but it looks great aswell I am definitely gonna check out both these amps when I goto my music store soon.


We can show you some used options if you tell us the closest city.


The DSL401 has a master volume and sounds pretty damn good at lower volume.
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#27
Quote by 6505fiz


You'd be surprised, the 6L6 tubes do push a good clean. I was surprised by the tone I get out of my Strat into my 6505+ combo. It's impressive.

The internet is why people hate on 6505+ clean. It's just not accurate however.

Still, a Fender tube amp is a better choice all around.


no. its the people who own/d them. i owned a 6505+ head for a while. just no.

that is not at all what he is looking for.

something fendery is what you are looking for. consider looking at silver faces and black faces (not sure if in budget), see what you like.

i have a 1968 AB165 bassman that is great.

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supersonic and renegade aren't bad options.

i had a renegade, you can get quite a bit out of it.
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#28
Hey now... I even said there are many better choices. Thing is, I am sitting in front of a Fender Deluxe Reverb and a 6505+ right now. Sure the Fender sounds better clean, but if all I had was my 6505+, I could work with it.

Seriously, especially when mixed with a little compression and an external EQ, the cleans are not bad.

Sometimes you only end up with one amp, I can work with this.
#29
It depends on whether you're just playing at home or live, but I'd say Marshall Class 5 with a fuzz + wah pedal if you're at home or some kind of 18 watt Bluesbreaker-esque type amp.
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#30
Quote by 6505fiz
Thing is, I am sitting in front of a Fender Deluxe Reverb and a 6505+ right now. Sure the Fender sounds better clean, but if all I had was my 6505+, I could work with it.

can you make the 6505 sounds like the DRRI?
#31
I would get a used Cornford Roadhouse. If the guy is looking at Fender amps to start with, I'm not sure a 5150/6505 is the right advice to be giving him.
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#32
Why has no one recommended an AC30 or AC15?

In my opinion that's a no brainer for the kind of music he's going for. For the harder rock (GNR etc) just stick a suhr riot in front or something. The AC30's distortion will absolutely own for the classic rock part, and the cleans are comparable to DRRI's.

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can you make the 6505 sounds like the DRRI?


Haha... of course not, but I can't make the DRRI sound like a 6505 either.

BUT, having a DRRI doesn't mean I can't enjoy or work with the cleans I get from 6505, nor does it mean I can't push a metal zone in front of my DRRI and distort the hell out of my playing.

My point is simple, IF you're stuck with one amp and one amp only, and that amp happens to for whatever reason be a 6505, the cleans are usable. Are they anything special? No, but they will work.
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Quote by 6505fiz
Haha... of course not, but I can't make the DRRI sound like a 6505 either.

BUT, having a DRRI doesn't mean I can't enjoy or work with the cleans I get from 6505, nor does it mean I can't push a metal zone in front of my DRRI and distort the hell out of my playing.

My point is simple, IF you're stuck with one amp and one amp only, and that amp happens to for whatever reason be a 6505, the cleans are usable. Are they anything special? No, but they will work.

Yeah, but I wouldn't recommend it to TS. He won't be playing any metal. This is pretty much the same as "can SSS Strat do metal"? Of course it can but there are a lot better options and if extreme metal is the only style you play, I wouldn't recommend an SSS Strat. So 6505 may have OK cleans but TS is going to play music with clean/light overdrive sound so I would recommend an amp that does that great. And I'm sure 6505 isn't an amp that does that sound great and in the same price range there are a lot better amps for that sound so I would rather recommend them. Remember that TS doesn't have a 6505 so he doesn't have to settle for its clean/overdrive sound.
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#35
ok so if the TS is ever on a deserted island with a 6505 he'll use that.

until then...
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Quote by MaggaraMarine
Yeah, but I wouldn't recommend it to TS. He won't be playing any metal. This is pretty much the same as "can SSS Strat do metal"? Of course it can but there are a lot better options and if extreme metal is the only style you play, I wouldn't recommend an SSS Strat. So 6505 may have OK cleans but TS is going to play music with clean/light overdrive sound so I would recommend an amp that does that great. And I'm sure 6505 isn't an amp that does that sound great and in the same price range there are a lot better amps for that sound so I would rather recommend them. Remember that TS doesn't have a 6505 so he doesn't have to settle for its clean/overdrive sound.


Yeah, alright... except read the thread, I never suggested the 6505+ is the right choice for the OP.

I suggested amps that make sense, the 6505 was suggested by another poster.

My opinion remains simple, the 6505 is not the amp for the OP, period. However, if it was all he had, or all he could buy (whatever reason), the cleans can be worked with, they're not as bad as the internet often suggests. (in my opinion)

It's like going over to the Axe FX forum and asking for an opinion on Line 6 products... we all know that Line 6 makes good enough products for most peoples uses, and in fact, good enough for most live situations, but the users of an Axe FX will belittle and berate the products like they're pieces of crap that not only sound terrible, but will murder your family in the middle of the night.

It seems on musicians forums we all lose perspective far too often.
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Quote by 6505fiz
Yeah, alright... except read the thread, I never suggested the 6505+ is the right choice for the OP.

I suggested amps that make sense, the 6505 was suggested by another poster.

My opinion remains simple, the 6505 is not the amp for the OP, period. However, if it was all he had, or all he could buy (whatever reason), the cleans can be worked with, they're not as bad as the internet often suggests. (in my opinion)

It's like going over to the Axe FX forum and asking for an opinion on Line 6 products... we all know that Line 6 makes good enough products for most peoples uses, and in fact, good enough for most live situations, but the users of an Axe FX will belittle and berate the products like they're pieces of crap that not only sound terrible, but will murder your family in the middle of the night.

It seems on musicians forums we all lose perspective far too often.

Yeah, I understand and you are right. But it kind of seemed like you were defending the 6505 recommendation. And by defending the suggestion you might give TS that kind of feeling that it's a good amp for him. So that's why people started arguing against your points.
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#38
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Yeah, I understand and you are right. But it kind of seemed like you were defending the 6505 recommendation. And by defending the suggestion you might give TS that kind of feeling that it's a good amp for him. So that's why people started arguing against your points.


Agreed, and understood... reading back I see how that impression might have come across.

But to be clear, for the OP, the 6505 is not the first choice he should make.

The 6505 is capable of providing clean tones, but nothing on the level of dozens of other amplifiers out there in the same price range. I stick by my used DRRI suggestion, or even a Princeton. GREAT amps. Stupid clean cleans.
#39
my '63 vibroverb reissue could pull off a decent enough slash toan with a fulldrive 2 out front.

would be perfect for everything else.
#40
I have owned tons of amps and have tried many more and really like the Burgera V22, I have been toying with getting rid of my Fender Hot Rod deluxe and getting the v22 and pocketing a little cash as it sounds so similar but gets a bit better overdrive tone IMO than the Hot Rod. I also was really surprised by the Fender Mustang III V2 and like the idea of the amplifi 150 by line 6.
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