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#1
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/apr/18/cispa-2013-house-vote-internet-privacy

This is not a good thing.

Companies have new rights to monitor user actions and share data – including potentially sensitive user data – with the government without a warrant.

Cispa overrides existing privacy law, and grants broad immunities to participating companies.

Information provided to the federal government under Cispa would be exempt from the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) and other state laws that could otherwise require disclosure (unless some law other than Cispa already requires its provision to the government).

Cispa's authors argue that the bill contains limitations on how the federal government can use and disclose information by permitting lawsuits against the government. But if a company sends information about a user that is not cyberthreat information, the government agency does not notify the user, only the company.


http://www.pcworld.com/article/2035682/house-approves-cispa-over-privacy-objections.html
#4
1. Still needs to be passed by senate.
2. Obama is opposed to it. He's been pushing internet legislation, but he's against it, and he gets the final say.

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#6
anybody want to give me a run down of why this is possibly bad? i understand what it does but i don't have time to research further right now
#8
Quote by K'Nuckles
Wait, does this affect the UK at all?

Only because you lot always follow whatever the U.S. does

Hopefully this won't pass Senate.
#11
Quote by whywefight
anybody want to give me a run down of why this is possibly bad?

prepare for hyperbole and explanations from people who've never read the bill itself, only played a game of chinese whispers about it's contents.
#12
Quote by necrosis1193
1. Still needs to be passed by senate.
2. Obama is opposed to it. He's been pushing internet legislation, but he's against it, and he gets the final say.

Not quite. The Senate can choose to ignore a President's veto with a 2/3 vote.

OT:
If this bill doesn't die in the Senate, I'll be very annoyed. Internet privacy is an issue dear to me.

Edit:
Quote by whywefight
anybody want to give me a run down of why this is possibly bad? i understand what it does but i don't have time to research further right now

Basically, if passed, it'd be legal for companies to pass on information on your internet usage to the government. By itself, that doesn't sound so bad. However, why does the government need to know that stuff? That's private to you.

Quote by K'Nuckles
Wait, does this affect the UK at all?

Why would a US bill affect the UK?
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#14
you guys need to lose the tinfoil hats and stop living your conspiracy fantasy world, hurr durr sandy hook was a conspiracy illuminati 9/11
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#15
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
Basically, if passed, it'd be legal for companies to pass on information on your internet usage to the government. By itself, that doesn't sound so bad. However, why does the government need to know that stuff? That's private to you.

why does the government want to know my income as well.

**** taxes; communism all day.


no i love taxes because i love america. don't be a hippie and enjoy contributing to the greatest nation on earth.
#16
Quote by crazysam23_Atax
Not quite. The Senate can choose to ignore a President's veto with a 2/3 vote.


A 2/3 majority though would mean that senate managed to act in a bipartisan manner. Ergo, it's not something that's realistic.

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#17
Quote by magnus_maximus
Stupidest thing ever said by anyone.

So you're happy for government to know everything you do? Would you show me right now everything you do on the internet? Why not?

if you worked for the government I'd gladly comply and help in any way I can
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#18
Quote by beefcake122
if you worked for the government I'd gladly comply and help in any way I can


.... aaand if I worked for the government your HD would be the first one i'd search.
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#19
Quote by magnus_maximus
Stupidest thing ever said by anyone.

So you're happy for government to know everything you do? Would you show me right now everything you do on the internet? Why not?

UG, Reddit, porn and Youtube. I wouldn't care if you or the government knew I liked gaming and masturbation.
#20
Quote by beefcake122
if you worked for the government I'd gladly comply and help in any way I can


Did you guys hear that?

I think Orwell just turned in his grave.
#21
It was able to get by because all the slacktivists forgot about it after last year.

Just because a bill is voted down (or fillibustered last year) doesn't mean it can't be re-introduced.

But slacktivist only pay attention when someone tells them it's the cool thing to do.
Last edited by jugglingfreak at Apr 18, 2013,
#22
Quote by magnus_maximus
Why?

because he's a good man who loves his country, unlike you liberal hippies with your leftist propoganda on how the government is out to get you.

geogre bush was a great man and the liberal media have painted him as a bloodthirsty monster. i think it's about time the democrats started cracking down on you internet people with your fascination with gore and cartoons and your pornography, it's disgusting. i hope cispa passes.
#23
Quote by beefcake122
you guys need to lose the tinfoil hats and stop living your conspiracy fantasy world, hurr durr sandy hook was a conspiracy illuminati 9/11

This post is bad.
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#25
I think it's just a very small leap towards targeting hacktivists, trying to locate specific potential subjects. But it could also play a large part in Internet piracy. Those are simply what I would expect from such a bill, I'm not educated enough on the subject (and clearly I'm not alone on that) so would one of dem dere genuses tell us what done gon' on hea'?
#27
Quote by devourke
because he's a good man who loves his country, unlike you liberal hippies with your leftist propoganda on how the government is out to get you.

geogre bush was a great man and the liberal media have painted him as a bloodthirsty monster. i think it's about time the democrats started cracking down on you internet people with your fascination with gore and cartoons and your pornography, it's disgusting. i hope cispa passes.

thank you

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This post is bad.

why do you hate america?
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#28
inb4 the government has to arrest a bunch of politicians for incriminating search histories.
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#29
If none of you could tell beefcake was trolling from his first post, you should all know by now.
#30
most of you will have inadvertently (or not lol) downloaded child porn at one point. not that the government gives a flying pool noodle about what you're looking at, it's unnerving to know that they could find out easily if they wanted to.

now if it required a warrant that would be totally cool
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#31
Quote by Eastwinn
most of you will have inadvertently (or not lol) downloaded child porn at one point.

wot


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#32
ever accidentally looked at child porn? you know, a link you shouldn't have clicked, or maybe it just popped up? not even like 8 year old porn, but like a picture some 14 year took in her bathroom mirror. that's what i mean. that's a criminal offensive, even if by accident, but you can't be convicted of it because who would know? now someone could know. and that's creepy, even if no one gives a shit if you accidentally looked at illegal porn.
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#33
Quote by Eastwinn
ever accidentally looked at child porn? you know, a link you shouldn't have clicked, or maybe it just popped up? not even like 8 year old porn, but like a picture some 14 year took in her bathroom mirror. that's what i mean. that's a criminal offensive, even if by accident, but you can't be convicted of it because who would know? now someone could know. and that's creepy, even if no one gives a shit if you accidentally looked at illegal porn.

Looking at=/=downloading.
#34
Quote by TheChaz
Looking at=downloading.

Fixed.

It might not be permanently saved on you hard drive, but you even downloaded this page.
#35
right. that's just one thing that strikes me. but it's obviously not a serious concern.
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#36
Quote by NickStrick
I think it's just a very small leap towards targeting hacktivists, trying to locate specific potential subjects. But it could also play a large part in Internet piracy. Those are simply what I would expect from such a bill, I'm not educated enough on the subject (and clearly I'm not alone on that) so would one of dem dere genuses tell us what done gon' on hea'?

Look, to be completely honest, this isn't even going to touch hacktivists. Anyone claiming to be a hacktivist who has even basic knowledge knows not to use personal information when doing anything illegal. Or they should. You think because CISPA passes, Anonymous is going to all be caught in the next few years? They've been going after them already for almost ten years and they've only caught a handful. This bill is like Communism: it sounds all nice and perfect on paper, but everything about it, including its goals, are gonna get lost in translation to reality.
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#37
Like the government doesn't already know my name, how old I am, and where I live.
It was my privilege
#38
Except it doesn't even sound good on paper. I don't even know where to begin with the type of person who supports a bill like this.

EDIT: at smartalecG94


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#39
Quote by necrosis1193
1. Still needs to be passed by senate.
2. Obama is opposed to it. He's been pushing internet legislation, but he's against it, and he gets the final say.


But what if Obama pulls a NDAA on us and signs it while telling us that he's doing it reluctantly.
#40
Quote by necrosis1193
1. Still needs to be passed by senate.
2. Obama is opposed to it. He's been pushing internet legislation, but he's against it, and he gets the final say.

Obama was against the NDAA 2012 too and he signed the shit out of that.
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