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Dw3lls
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Yeah yeah I'm sure your all sick of answering it but help a brother out! I'm not paying 200 plus for a tube screamer simple as that, I want the srv tone, I have the strat, I have a hot rod deluxe III, (jeez 3 grande worth of gear get the pedal you stingy ****) but I need a pedal, I'm tossing up between a:
Behringer vintage tube overdrive
Digitech bad monkey
Digitech screaming blues

All inbetween 50 to 80 dollars au

Suggestions? Any other pedals for this price you can suggest?

Thanks guys
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Bad Monkey is definetly a safe choice. It is based on Tubescreamer, but unlike TS it has 2-way EQ instead of tone knob, giving it more room for finetuning your sound.

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if someone is charging you 200 dollars for a tubescreamer then you probably should never shop from them ever again...tubescreamers can be had on the cheap new or used. But out of your choices I too would probably go with the BadMonkey
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Joyo Vintage Overdrive is a TS-9 clone and pretty good (~$50ish)
GFS Greenie Classic is a modified TS clone (~50)

I have the GFS Greenie and the Digitech Bad monkey, and I like both, but the Bad Monkey has more tonal control. I have found that the GFS Greenie will work better with some of my amps.
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Voodoo Labs Sparkle Drive. Like the blend control lots. Not sure of the price tho.
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Behringer Tube Preamp! I have one, a MIC200 , which cost about $40, and it's a godsend. I don't know about the model you mentioned but mine gives that tube crunch sound at any volume. I'd advise anyone to get one before they buy any overdrive pedals. The things are killer. Even my solid state Crate Powerblock sounds fantastic with one. I recently traded off my Bad Monkey. I fiddled with it for a while and then it sat unused for a looong time. It didn't do it for me at all. I only use the MIC200 in front of my amp, nothing else, and couldn't be happier.

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It's tough to throw a rock in a music shop and not hit seven TS clones.
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The Bad Monkey is more or less a TS clone with the tone control split up into two. It's good. It will let you drive your amp a little harder. The level control has a lot of range while the gain control offers low to moderate clipping with a slightly bright edge. If you only need a little extra clipping and mostly want to boost your signal, this is the pedal to go for.

The Screamin' Blues is halfway between the Bad Monkey overdrive and the Hot Head distortion. Its level control has slighlty less range than the BM but more than the HH; the gain control has more range than the BM but less than the HH. The character of the distortion is very slightly smoother, shifted down to the mids rather than the 'upper-mids' of the BM (and TS). Personally, this was my go-to overdrive pedal for several years. The level control can still double your output, more than enough to drive, and I found the distortion characteristics to be the most pleasing. It's a good option if you know for sure you want to add a little transistor clipping in addition to a big level boost.

The other thing I'd consider is the Boss SD-1. It's basically a TS with asymmetrical clipping. If anything it is a much better 'blues' overdrive than the TS ever was. It has the same basic big level, light gain and single tone control configuration as the TS.

Any of them will do what you want, just depends on how exactly you want to use 'em. Personally, I am of the mind that these are the cheapest pedals to go for and that if you go for anything much more expensive then you might as well be springing for a plain ol' Tube Screamer.
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^ the screamin blues seems to be a glorified blues driver/bd2.

you liked it, then? i have store credit on musicstore and they sell it (and the bad monkey) for cheap

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+1

joyo, mooer, biyang (not fussed on their reliability) etc. all do ts clones.
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^ the screamin blues seems to be a glorified blues driver/bd2.

you liked it, then? i have store credit on musicstore and they sell it (and the bad monkey) for cheap
Well yeah, it's basically the same thing. TS = Bad Monkey. BD-2 = Screamin' Blues. DS-1 = Hot Head. The colours rather give them away. DigiTech don't have many original ideas.

But yes, I used it as my main source of distortion for several years. I don't like have a single 'tone' knob, so the DigiTechs were always the better option, for me. The halfway OD/distortion nature of the Screamin' Blues let me do a bit more witht he one pedal than I ever could have with a plain OD or distortion.

I wouldn't say it's for everyone, but as far as your basic heavier blues tones go, I'd rather use that again than any kind of plain Tube Screamer copy. It's just a more versatile version of the Bad Monkey, really
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One more recommendation for the Bad Monkey, they are awesome pedals pushing well above the price range in both build quality and sound.
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Look for some stuff used. You can get good deals and get most if not all of your money back out of it if you decide you don't like it and want to sell it.

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It's tough to throw a rock in a music shop and not hit seven TS clones.


+1

The colors are a huge giveaway - if you find a pedal and it's some shade of green, chances are it's a TS variation.
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Wait a second. Somebody is using a tubescreamer for it's clipping and not as a boost? Has this ever happened before?
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^ once... in 1983, so i hear.


I actually don't mind a ts as a standalone od for certain tones

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Well yeah, it's basically the same thing. TS = Bad Monkey. BD-2 = Screamin' Blues. DS-1 = Hot Head. The colours rather give them away. DigiTech don't have many original ideas.

But yes, I used it as my main source of distortion for several years. I don't like have a single 'tone' knob, so the DigiTechs were always the better option, for me. The halfway OD/distortion nature of the Screamin' Blues let me do a bit more witht he one pedal than I ever could have with a plain OD or distortion.

I wouldn't say it's for everyone, but as far as your basic heavier blues tones go, I'd rather use that again than any kind of plain Tube Screamer copy. It's just a more versatile version of the Bad Monkey, really


thanks i figured the hothead was maybe a ds1 but that's good to hear, too, as i'd never really looked into it much.

how are the buffers in them? build quality? the digitech stuff i've had seemed fairly solid and the buffers seem fine, but it was the dearer x-series stuff that was made in the US (i'm guessing the BM, SB and HH are made in china or something like that?)...

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yeah that's what i thought but i figured those cheaper ones can't be. they're going for 33 euros FFS.
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if someone is charging you 200 dollars for a tubescreamer then you probably should never shop from them ever again...

australian prices bro.
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Don't recall where the DigiTechs were made, I sold mine when I switched to Boss (never mind that I then sold all my Boss stuff...). I also can't pretend to know the exact nature of the buffers, whether the bypass was any good, or whatever. I was using 'em before I got into relaly techie stuff. All I know was they sound damn good and much less processed than the X-series, which I've never liked. Then again, I am biased towards anything that gives me more options; the twin tone controls alone are a big selling point to me.
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ah no worries, thanks anyway

and yeah that's what i'm wondering regarding the twin knobs... i kinda figure that having more control can hardly hurt. On the other hand, things with fewer controls often sound just right as is... though if they don't, you're screwed

i can see me ending up with both the digitech and boss versions, lol. to satisfy my curiosity if nothing else
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Just to throw in a suggestion that hasn't been mentioned, the Fulltone OCD is pretty great. I just picked on up myself. Its very dynamic and pretty versatile, but best of all, it isn't a TS clone! Those exist!


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Flibble. I'd agree and I've gigged quite a bit with both a TS808 and an SD-1. What I found myself doing a lot was using the TS808 for rhythm and the SD-1 for lead.

I'll put in my vote for the Bad monkey.
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The screamin blues can get the subtle overdrive of the bad monkey and a tubescreamer, and it can really get some thick lead distortion as well. This is my go to overdrive pedal now, I love this thing. I like the way this thing sounds with light clipping as opposed to the bad monkey. It is very trebley though, so i usually have bass set at 3:00 and treble at 9:00.

Another thing is how responsive this thing is to the output of your guitar. Even the slightest change in your picking, or a slight turn on your volume knob will change the way this thing clips. I absolutely love this OD! (It sounds really nice followed by some light compression)
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no i like it.

but it's a tubescreamer..
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Tim, the clipper is totally different in an OCD. It uses FET's and they aren't even in the NFB loop.
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Tim, the clipper is totally different in an OCD. It uses FET's and they aren't even in the NFB loop.

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am i the only one who doesn't like the bad monkey. i bought it at a shop for like $20 or something, it was the demo, but functioned fine.

it just didn't feel right or sound right to me. it was thin sounding. i went back to my green screamer the next day and sold the bad monkey.

they used to be cheap, but the BBE green screamer is a good option. i think i paid $50-60ish from a registered BBE store on ebay. brand new with adapter. i like it when i want to use a tubescreamer.i don't know if you have them in australia.

have tim make you one.
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Actually the clipper in an OCD is quite reminiscent of the Pi circuit in a Big Muff. By that I mean that it uses caps to smooth out the knee. Totally different otherwise but obviously both are trying to tame harsh clipping.
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i don't know if this guy would ship abroad, but here is a used one for $50USD.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BBE-Green-Screamer-/221217960642?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item33819e32c2
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the green screamer is pretty good. had one for a while.


they aren't anything amazing, but when i got it it was the only decent TS (few years ago) on the market at that price. it does the job. i don't think anybody could distinguish it from any other tubescreamer.
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yeah it's cheap (especially in australia) and good for what it does. i ended up selling mine because i didn't really dig the tubescreamer sound (replaced it with a boiling point, ironically).
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yeah it's cheap (especially in australia) and good for what it does. i ended up selling mine because i didn't really dig the tubescreamer sound (replaced it with a boiling point, ironically).


i am not really a tubesceramer user either, but sometimes they come in handy. i find my self using my timmy for just about everything. i prefer my blues pro to the tubescreamer (the blues pro is really similar to TS as far as i know), but different enough to sound more what i like.

OP - if BBE Green Screamers are cheap in Australia i would pick one up.
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Just throwing this out there. There are a gazillion tubescreamer kits out there. I used a tonepad PCB to make mine. True bypass rather than buffered (no buffer on the board) and I tweaked a few values, but otherwise, TS808.

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Don't be afraid of the Joyo pedals. I got their Voodoo Octave and the fuzz sounds just right! And it's very strong, doesn't seem like it's gonna break soon. I got mine for 40 dollars.