Major94
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So old dude im friends with knows I play. He asks me over to see what his guitars are worth. He is looking to sell them. He has this old Gibson. What model is it. Any help??





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I'm no expert by any means, but the "Gibson" script looks pretty sketchy to me.
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Yeah, the logo looks way off. If anything, it looks like a typical 60's Japanese brand model.
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Ya, I noticed it right away. It looks hand painted too. I said "this looks handpainted" to the guy. He said "idk, its how I bought it new back in 1965"

What do you suppose a fake is worth?
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I don't think it should have a Rickenbacker truss rod cover either.
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Next to nothing if you don't know what it is.
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I've seen old school ES-175's with one pickup but that was in the neck position. And what the person said about the rickenbacker truss rod cover is also really suspicious. I'm leaning towards this being a knock-off.
Edit: btw what is up with the strap button being on the inside of the wing? I've never seen anything like that before.
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The pickup and body shape seem to be from the Gretsch Corvette. The scratchplate and truss rod cover seem to be from a Rickenbacker and the Gibson logo looks like it's been copied by a grade 6 art student.

ID it? It has none. Sorry. Not a real Gibson.

However, if it plays well find out how much he's willing to part with it for. If it's reasonable then consider buying it. If he thinks he's going to get more than about $500 laugh and walk away.
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It looks like a partar to me. Logo is for sure fake though. I would pay a few hundred for it
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Yeah, it's an early 1951 SG shape...........

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Play nice....
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That's not a Gibson. I have no idea what it is.
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This is probably the most 'vintage' Gibson fake i've ever seen.
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Quote by Slap-happy
The pickup and body shape seem to be from the Gretsch Corvette. The scratchplate and truss rod cover seem to be from a Rickenbacker and the Gibson logo looks like it's been copied by a grade 6 art student.
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Thanks for the info, it looks a lot like the Corvette. I just can find that pick guard anywhere. Im gonna tell him its a fake and see if he'll take $100 for it. Its a gamble on my part too. I gotta put some work into it to bring it back to a non fake.

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This is probably the most 'vintage' Gibson fake i've ever seen.



Thats just it. He bought it in 1965. Idk who ripped him off, but someone did.
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Okay, someone bought it. It's a fake, it happens.

But to go on thinking it's a Gibson for 50 years? With guitarists everywhere, shops everywhere, people on TV, gigs etc and it looks that different and to not doubt it ever?

That's dumb.
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This is the closest thing I've seen to it- right down to the button on the inside of the horn- but its clearly not one of these, either:

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Deff not a Gibson, but it is pretty cool looking
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I would buy that guitar purely based on how cool it looks. Not Gibson though.
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Ok, guys

Its obviously a Gretsch Corvette.
What is making me mad is the way they cut the head stock to match a Gibson. Would it be that noticable if I got a Gretsch Decal, removed, repainted the headstock and Gretsch decaled the head stock?

A die hard Gretsch man would know it wasnt an original headstock, but what do ya'll think.
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It's not a Gretsch Corvette. It's a copy of one, with Gibson on the headstock. So it's a fake of a fake fake. Or something.
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Personally I would offer him a small sum, paint over the gibson logo and just have it for what it is. This is assuming it plays well and has pickups (or rather a pickup) worth having.
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Definitely not a Gibson. It appears to be a knock-off of the Epiphone Wilshire design with a phony Gibson logo on the headstock. Gibson never made the Wilshire-style guitar. It would be an interesting addition to your collection as a curiosity piece, but only if you could get it for a very low price.
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