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#1
I recently purchased a 6505 112, but the cabinet was broken in transit, so I'm returning it. I was going to exchange it for another, but a 5150 212 popped up locally for the same price (it also comes with a new EQ pedal).

For the same price ($550), which one should I go for? I know the 5150 and the 6505 are virtually the same amp, the difference being that the 5150 212 has 2x speakers and is made in the US (the 6505 has 1x speaker and is made in China).

Does it matter that the 5150 is 5'ish years old? It's in mint condition.
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Getting the 5150 would be the obvious choice for me. 5 years old isn't a lot, if it's been held in good condition, it should work flawlessly and last you a good amount of time.
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The 5150 has to be more than 5 years old, they stopped making them in 2005.

I would definitely go for the 5150 if it checks out, they have superior quality, and it will most likely sound better. The EQ pedal is a nice bonus as well. As long as it functions and there isn't anything fishy with it, I'd get the 212
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2x12.

Also they are biased hotter and will sound better, along with being MIA.
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I think I've heard people saying that the 6505 head isn't the same as the combo even if you switch speakers. I'd probably try to get the 5150 at a lower price. That thing must be really heavy though.
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Id go with the 5150 2x12, hands down. Age doesn't matter in the slightest, unless its been heavily used in which case you may need to change power tubes at some point soon, but really, its a bit of a no brainer.
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The 5150 has to be more than 5 years old, they stopped making them in 2005.

+1

But yes take the 5150 over the 6505+ combo.
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The 5150 will sound different because

a.) it's not exactly the same amp -- they're VERY close but there are differences in tone.

b.) it has a bigger cab with 2 speakers.

Furthermore, the 6505+ 112 sounds a little different than even the 6505+ head. The 5150 will sound exactly like a regular 6505 (not the +) head.

Supposedly, the non-plus versions sound a little more raw and grinding, whereas the + versions sound smoother and tighter (I've never played a non-plus model, however). That said, they are ALL capable of the same kind of music.

Another thing to consider is that the 5150 combo weighs around 95 pounds. It DOES NOT have handy side carrying handles. So if you're moving that thing around a lot, that's something to think about. Personally, my 6505+ 112 is the heaviest combo I'll ever own -- my next rig will definitely be a head + cab. Much easier to transport...
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^Thats why I cut mine to a head and made a cab for the speaker
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Quote by KailM
The 5150 will sound different because

a.) it's not exactly the same amp -- they're VERY close but there are differences in tone.

b.) it has a bigger cab with 2 speakers.

Furthermore, the 6505+ 112 sounds a little different than even the 6505+ head. The 5150 will sound exactly like a regular 6505 (not the +) head.

Supposedly, the non-plus versions sound a little more raw and grinding, whereas the + versions sound smoother and tighter (I've never played a non-plus model, however). That said, they are ALL capable of the same kind of music.

Another thing to consider is that the 5150 combo weighs around 95 pounds. It DOES NOT have handy side carrying handles. So if you're moving that thing around a lot, that's something to think about. Personally, my 6505+ 112 is the heaviest combo I'll ever own -- my next rig will definitely be a head + cab. Much easier to transport...


+1 to all of this. Not the same amp - the 112 is the 6505+, which is the same amp as the 5150 II. The 212 combo is just a regular 5150/6505.

I used to own the 5150 212. I will never recommend one. They are ungodly heavy and ****ing impossible to move around because it's just a big mass of weight. There's no way to get good leverage on it. Unless you're going to be an old man like Cath and put it on a dolly.
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Even the original 5150 combos won't sound the same as the 5150 heads, even through a cab. There are still subtle differences between the circuits that make them have a sound somewhere in between the 5150 and 5150 II. They still sound good, but pretty well every 5150/6505 derivative sounds a bit different.
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#12
I think it's a no brainer - get the 5150.
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#13
The 5150 looks cooler and has an extra speaker, the amp itself won't sound any better (though it will have subtle differences it's still that signature sound) but still, a 5150 is always cooler than a 6505.

Someone else mentioned the weight of the thing, I don't envy anyone who has to carry it around, one of the biggest complaints I've heard about the 5150 combo has more to do with the noises your back makes when you have to carry it!

Still though, I'd go with the 5150 every time.
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#14
As someone who made the choice of going for a used 5150 212 over a new 6505 112, I'm going to say I'm very happy I did. I had first played the 6505 and it sounded pretty good. I was about to jump on one for a good price but I found a 5150 212 for roughly the same price and gave it a shot. I don't know about the people who say they sound extremely similar, because I thought the 5150 sounded much better. Much fuller, angrier, and overall a better sounding amp. The larger cabinet has something to do with it and the build quality and thickness of the wood used is a testament to that. Sure you don't get an EQ for the clean channel as it is shared, but I've found that the combo is actually my favorite sounding of all the 5150/6505 family from Peavey. It's a little smoother than the head variants and I prefer that. I'd go for it, if only for the fact that it's MIA and is built like a tank compared to the 6505.

Also, be wary of the weight. It's a damn tank and weighs something like 80+ pounds. If you're constantly moving it around, you might be disappointed, but it's well worth it for the tone.
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