cilissen.m
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Hello,

Me and my friend are making ourselves a little studio in his house where we can play. He is an excellent drummer but plays it quite loud. I've been playing acoustic guitars most of my life but recently switched over to a semi-acoustic guitar (an Epiphone ES-335 to get me started), I also got a Vox StompLab IIG but haven't been able to use it yet. I have very little experience with guitar amps so I'm wondering if a Marshall MG30FX will be able to produce a high enough volume to play with him (mainly on the clean channel). We're trying to keep everything budget friendly, but keep the quality high, so we rather not get in touch with the cheap amp brands.

So will I get a high enough volume from that amp and perhaps even when a bass and/or keyboard would join us. I also got an acoustic pickup that I can place in the sound hole of an acoustic guitar, will that work well enough with that amp? But the main priority is just to be able to hear it clearly while he's playing the drums.

Thanks in advance
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If you want a good clean amp, get an old second hand Peavey SS amp or a Roland JC-120. Avoid the MG like the plague.
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If the Vox has amp modeling (I'm not familiar with it and I'm on my phone right now) then a powered wedge or a cheap PA might make more financial sense. To answer your question, 30 watts SS would be....borderline. I wouldn't bank on it working well. Also, brace yourself, a whole lot of (valid) MG hating is coming.
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Personally I'd go for one of the Vox AD series of amps. I think there's a 40 watt model out there these days and the sound is far superior to the MG.

As for the MG. I had one about 10 years ago, when I first returned to the UK from Australia and it was fine for my needs - something to amplify my guitar whilst at home. Once I got into a band again I upgraded. I sold all of my amps once I left the UK to move to Australia and bought a Vox AD30 at first (one of the first models). It needs a new speaker, but other than that is a very good practice, rehearsal tool and save me having to lug around a head/combo and speaker cabs.
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Budget? - What is practical for you and what is your limit?

Genres? - What style do you play mostly, fav guitarists, do you need cleans, etc?

New or Used? - Lots of great amps out there used, especially in a down economy.

Home or Gig? - Also important. Maybe you do both. Jamming with a drummer can be considered 'gigging' but you won't have a PA etc.

Closest City? - We aren't here to stalk you but we need to know where you are in the world roughly and we can help further if we know what city you are in (ie craigslist, local shops, Guitar Center used section, etc)

Current Gear? - Also good for us to know.
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cilissen.m
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The budget for an amp is between €200 and €350
Lately I mostly play British rock inspired music, but nothing too heavy styled tho
Personally I would prefer something new rather then used. But I guess I would be interested in used if it's an exceptionally good amp for the price, it's just that I almost know nothing about guitar amps. Playing home I guess, playing music is just a hobby for us. The closest big city would be Hasselt in Belgium but I usually just get my things online from Thomann in Germany and current gear is just a small practice amp I bought with the guitar, it won't be of any use when a drum is playing. Starting next month we plan on both spending a part of our income at the beginning of every month on our little place where we can play music, and eventually record
Last edited by cilissen.m at Apr 22, 2013,
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Go for the Vox. It can compete with a drummer, has 11 amp models that are actually pretty good, a single valve (it aids tone a little), there's built in effects that are a good spring board, a pot on the back to attenuate the output, headphones in, a line out and should just about fit your budget.

There's a site I going to try to find...
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Sorry - double post, my German isn't as good as it was....

Try this - it's the VT80. If you can get to a shop and try one out first it would be preferable...

http://www.thomann.de/de/vox_vt80.htm
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Quote by Slap-happy
Sorry - double post, my German isn't as good as it was....

Try this - it's the VT80. If you can get to a shop and try one out first it would be preferable...

http://www.thomann.de/de/vox_vt80.htm


Woah, That looks like a very good amp for that price. I'll search some more info and videos about it, and if everything looks and sound great I might aswell just get it from Thomann, in the worst case I can just send it back for refund.
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Quote by Slap-happy
Sorry - double post, my German isn't as good as it was....

Try this - it's the VT80. If you can get to a shop and try one out first it would be preferable...

http://www.thomann.de/de/vox_vt80.htm

I'll second this recommendation - I had the 40w version and it was pretty good, but for a band scenario you'd definitely want the 80w model.
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I'll second this recommendation - I had the 40w version and it was pretty good, but for a band scenario you'd definitely want the 80w model.

3rded. The 40watt is a great amp, but yeah, I'd go with the 80w if I could do it over again
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I've heard Orange amps are quite good for clean/rock tones, maybe get a 35 watt crush?
I haven't have any experience with them, so I can't personally say if it's loud enough or produces good tones, but other people should be able to answer that for me
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If u had ur mind set on a Marshall, and want quality with volume for a drummer in a studio/bedroom kind of thing, then also check out the Marshall Class 5.
Cant see them on Thomann now but i got it there for 350euro i think.


I'm in a similair position myself, i play on an isolated room at my friends place and happens to play ******edly loud on his drums. I had serious difficulties to get heard over it on my old 80watt roland cube. Basiacly every time i got the volume up to get heard there was this wall of noise really... Was not clear at all, i guess it was because of the solidstate. Now i have a Marshall Class 5 and i only open up the volume about 3/4th to get the tubes kicking in, but i have the volume on my distortion pedal halfway. If i go up with volume my drummer complains haha.

Id invest in a Tube amp, and if u play mostly cleanish then dont look at all the fancy stuff that comes with alot of amps, in the end your paying for that too.
5watts of tube is def loud enough for studio/house use.
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Recommending the Fender Excelsior. about 230 euros brand new, tube amp. its quite loud.
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30 watts of solid state amp could be enough, to hear the amp louder lift it on something to be closer to your ears.
But it wouldn't hurt trying something else than a Marshall MG, it's not a very good amp, I have MG15CDR and MG30DFX so I know what I'm talking about. I think you can find better amps.