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#1
hello guys im gonna buy line6 studio ux2 and i got questions in mind.

i will buy this thing to make covers and upload to youtube. but with that sound card i can get what i play in recording by mp3. but i want to do this with video. so what should i do? should i take video while im playing and put that mp3 (that i recorded) in video? or something? im a little confused . long story short, i wanna make covers with video and the sound must be good. help me with that

thank you
#2
First off, you don't want the UX2. Look into the Focusrite Scarlett 2i4, its much better preamp quality and you can download free amp sims that are better than Pod Farm.

Everyone I've talked with that do covers usually record the audio in a DAW then output that to an MP3 and "play" along to it while being video'd.
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#3
Getting the sound good then hooking it up with your video are two seperate processes.

For the sound part, why have you chosen the UX2? Have you read the interfaces sticky for recommendations?

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#4
I can buy 8i6 or saffire pro 14. ux2 and those are same price. I have chosen the ux2 for 2 reasons. 1. i have a friend who uses ux2. he told me that ux2 is very good for recording. 2. i've looked some covers on youtube and they were very good (like: that and that ) and i was told by ux2 with sonar x1 would be great.
#5
The ux2 is way... WAY... worse than both the other interfaces you have listed.

Do your self a favour, as an ex user of a UX1... don't buy the UX2.

You may have been told the UX2 is good... well... we're telling you it isn't xD Especially for the amount of money Line6 ask for the thing.
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#6
hımm thanks for the advice which interface or "s" do you recommend me?

edit: haha! now i know that ux2 is bad !
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#7
and one more question: do focusrite interfaces have their own program like pod farm? or if i have this, i will use another programs like sonar x1?
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hımm thanks for the advice which interface or "s" do you recommend me?

edit: haha! now i know that ux2 is bad !

The ones in the sticky.

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#9
Quote by drocorth
and one more question: do focusrite interfaces have their own program like pod farm? or if i have this, i will use another programs like sonar x1?


No but we have a lovely sticky full of free amp simulators like Pod Farm but better. I've had Pod Farm since it came out (Paid $300 for the full Platinum one) and its okay but you'll find very quickly that there are better free alternatives on the market.

You'll need a DAW to run the interface and sims. Look at Reaper, its cheap ($60 for the full license) and very powerful.
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The ones in the sticky.


no i've checked it out but i wanna know that: is 8i6 better than 2i4? or 2i4 will be enough for me?


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No but we have a lovely sticky full of free amp simulators like Pod Farm but better. I've had Pod Farm since it came out (Paid $300 for the full Platinum one) and its okay but you'll find very quickly that there are better free alternatives on the market. You'll need a DAW to run the interface and sims. Look at Reaper, its cheap ($60 for the full license) and very powerful.


Oh, i cant buy anything else but soundcard. if i buy focusrite i will use sonar with it
#11
i looked the amp sims and far away i didnt understand anything the pod farm is really simple, you choose amp etc. but i dont understand the amp sims. isnt there a program that includes the free amp sims and only thing that you have to do is choose an amp and thats all?
#12
The amp sims seems more complicated than it is. Once you've downloaded everything, you pick an amp by loading the amp sim, then pick a cabinet by loading an impulse response. That's really all there is to it.
#13
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The amp sims seems more complicated than it is. Once you've downloaded everything, you pick an amp by loading the amp sim, then pick a cabinet by loading an impulse response. That's really all there is to it.


oh, im sorry but where do we load this sim? can you just explain me what i need? im gonna buy focusrite 8i6, well thats okay. then i need a program like sonar x1 or something? and then i need amp and cabinet sims and thats all? im playing guitar about 7 years but i dont know anything about recording, pardon me
#14
For recording, you'll need a DAW of some sort yes. I like REAPER personally, but Sonar is fine too. Then when you create a track you will have a button somewhere to add effects. Click that, and add the amp sim you want. Once you've done that open an impulse loader (keFIR, LeCab, etc.) and use that to open an impulse response file.
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For recording, you'll need a DAW of some sort yes. I like REAPER personally, but Sonar is fine too. Then when you create a track you will have a button somewhere to add effects. Click that, and add the amp sim you want. Once you've done that open an impulse loader (keFIR, LeCab, etc.) and use that to open an impulse response file.


thank you sir and thank you all! i'm gonna buy 2i4 instead of 8i6. all my questions have answered!
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#16
Wait wait wait.
Everyone, slow the hell down.
This guy says he's just going to be making covers. Cover videos don't need to be top-notch quality. While it was ignorant of his "friend" to recommend the UX2 when he probably hasn't even used any other interfaces, most YouTubers (especially after all the loss due to YouTube's codecs) won't notice the difference in pre-amp quality. Especially after it's been mixed with the backing track.
Normally I'd stick up for the interface->DI->amp/cabsim route, but TS doesn't really need to learn how to use a DAW just to do guitar covers. You don't need Rick Rubin-budget levels of production clarity here; on YouTube, "good sound" means "anything better than amp -> built-in computer mic -> Audacity". I'd say for this case, if TS wants ease of use more than anything, they could go the Pod Farm route.
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Wait wait wait.
Everyone, slow the hell down.
This guy says he's just going to be making covers. Cover videos don't need to be top-notch quality. While it was ignorant of his "friend" to recommend the UX2 when he probably hasn't even used any other interfaces, most YouTubers (especially after all the loss due to YouTube's codecs) won't notice the difference in pre-amp quality. Especially after it's been mixed with the backing track.
Normally I'd stick up for the interface->DI->amp/cabsim route, but TS doesn't really need to learn how to use a DAW just to do guitar covers. You don't need Rick Rubin-budget levels of production clarity here; on YouTube, "good sound" means "anything better than amp -> built-in computer mic -> Audacity". I'd say for this case, if TS wants ease of use more than anything, they could go the Pod Farm route.


im not going to do just youtube covers ofcourse. i will upload some songs that written by me or my band to soundcloud etc.
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im not going to do just youtube covers ofcourse. i will upload some songs that written by me or my band to soundcloud etc.

Well then, I take it back. Welcome to the world of digital audio.
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Well then, I take it back. Welcome to the world of digital audio.


thank you i hope i can handle all difficulties
#20
ok line6 studio ux2 does give you Pod farm 2 OK, cool idea & logical,. BUT..

there are better options... IMO

from my little opinion, Amplitude OR free plugins are better for tone and testing

( Negative to Line 6 is CRASHING I get alot of crashing in protools 10 from Amp farm And Amplitude has a wider sonic range in amps sounds then Amp Farm )

Sound wise to test a demo amp in Amplitude with each amp sim for 48 hours is very cool idea, find what works for the project .


Now.. a different issues comes into mind ,... when it comes to video I think that is a different subject and project. guessing you have (????) mins ( PER Timing/Feeling/Style Etc ) you can only match to video if you do at VERY focus TIMING pass First

Can you do that in your current DAW ?...
I ask because have no idea what your using ?? and I do ask because I have done this many times in the last 10 years you need timing and measurement tools to plan it out well.

it's a steep learning curve so take it slow and be prepared to learn,.. John Williams of the world are well educated in it,...you have to be prepared to climb those stairs.


The most I can give you is advice to help is Break your video into parts and measure the timing to match. if all is he same emotion and feel,...your on a winner..


Good luck.
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ok line6 studio ux2 does give you Pod farm 2 OK, cool idea & logical,. BUT..

there are better options... IMO

from my little opinion, Amplitude OR free plugins are better for tone and testing

( Negative to Line 6 is CRASHING I get alot of crashing in protools 10 from Amp farm And Amplitude has a wider sonic range in amps sounds then Amp Farm )

Sound wise to test a demo amp in Amplitude with each amp sim for 48 hours is very cool idea, find what works for the project .


Now.. a different issues comes into mind ,... when it comes to video I think that is a different subject and project. guessing you have (????) mins ( PER Timing/Feeling/Style Etc ) you can only match to video if you do at VERY focus TIMING pass First

Can you do that in your current DAW ?...
I ask because have no idea what your using ?? and I do ask because I have done this many times in the last 10 years you need timing and measurement tools to plan it out well.

it's a steep learning curve so take it slow and be prepared to learn,.. John Williams of the world are well educated in it,...you have to be prepared to climb those stairs.


The most I can give you is advice to help is Break your video into parts and measure the timing to match. if all is he same emotion and feel,...your on a winner..


Good luck.


cant we do recording the sound and video at the same time? or i take a video while im playing and recording, after that i will put the sound on the video and thats all?
#22
Nothing wrong with the UX2, I borrowed and used one in a pinch when my sound card short circuited and caught on fire. Preamps sounded decent (not too noisy) and live monitoring was doable without latency.

From what I gather they are pretty cheap and come with a lot of sounds with the software, Not saying it's the best option out there but I don't buy into the idea that there is anything wrong with it, it will do what you want and will give you quality recordings.

I recorded this https://soundcloud.com/bluelightride/3-blue-light-ride-this-wont with a UX2, before I bought a Presonus Firestudio and handed the UX2 back to its owner.
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cant we do recording the sound and video at the same time? or i take a video while im playing and recording, after that i will put the sound on the video and thats all?



it would be advisable ( only in my knowledge ) to "measure" the timing BEFORE, so you write music to the Video. ( afew beats off,.. does distory a scene if you do it wrong )

IF you want to do it Freestyle COOL (Go for it !! improvisational is a good thing if you have the time to try all the options. I LOVE it when i have the time )

But you can waste abit of time with that approach. IMO it's best to Spending the time ( & get all nerdy and measure everything out first with a click track ) it will help you in the end. to get everything in perfectly place. to then improvise/Jam/write whatever and create a cool price of music to match the video perfectly.


But I'm sure others here have done this work before, so check there opinions.
#24
For video recording, I usually record video and audio at the same time. I usually record from my phone or tablet, and then sync it up later with the audio on PC. Make sure to have a cue of some sort or it becomes a nightmare to sync stuff up.
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Nothing wrong with the UX2, I borrowed and used one in a pinch when my sound card short circuited and caught on fire. Preamps sounded decent (not too noisy) and live monitoring was doable without latency.

From what I gather they are pretty cheap and come with a lot of sounds with the software, Not saying it's the best option out there but I don't buy into the idea that there is anything wrong with it, it will do what you want and will give you quality recordings.

I recorded this https://soundcloud.com/bluelightride/3-blue-light-ride-this-wont with a UX2, before I bought a Presonus Firestudio and handed the UX2 back to its owner.


It's not TOO bad no.

But if you're paying for it it's a rip off for the price and the pre-amps are muddy as sin.
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#26
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For video recording, I usually record video and audio at the same time. I usually record from my phone or tablet, and then sync it up later with the audio on PC. Make sure to have a cue of some sort or it becomes a nightmare to sync stuff up.


thank you so much, i'll keep that in mind!

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Nothing wrong with the UX2, I borrowed and used one in a pinch when my sound card short circuited and caught on fire. Preamps sounded decent (not too noisy) and live monitoring was doable without latency. From what I gather they are pretty cheap and come with a lot of sounds with the software, Not saying it's the best option out there but I don't buy into the idea that there is anything wrong with it, it will do what you want and will give you quality recordings. I recorded this https://soundcloud.com/bluelightrid...-ride-this-wont with a UX2, before I bought a Presonus Firestudio and handed the UX2 back to its owner.


Oh, i know that. But what i was told by, focusrite has a better preamp then line6. line6 is ok. but its price is more expensive than it should be.
#28
there are plenty of delay vst plugins out there. most DAWs will come with one. might not be exactly like the one in the vid, but will get you a delay.
#29
i hope i dont bother you guys. in the sticky amp sims. thread i see always a high gain simulators. where can i find od tones or lesser distortion tones?
#30
Most online people like high gain stuff so more of them get made. Though saying that the LePou Hybrit and the Ignite Anvil are what I tend to go to for good crunch tones. There are some AMAZING crunch amp sims out there, but most of them are retail.
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#31
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i hope i dont bother you guys. in the sticky amp sims. thread i see always a high gain simulators. where can i find od tones or lesser distortion tones?


for the cleaner tones I would check out a GTR demo ( PRS amps are very nice ) & pod farm is also good.
#32
I'd agree actually Cleans are something that PodFarm is actually good for, it's high gain is awful though. Personally I think if you were going retail that Amplitube would be good since you can buy the amps separately. That with the Orange amps would be pretty good I think.

Though if you want something that does one thing, and does it well then you'll want to check out this company: http://www.kuassa.com/products

They're stuff is considered the most responsive by regulars. Their Vermillion Sim would fit your need for OD/Clean sounds too.
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#33
Man check out the HEQ wave plugin, it is SO easy to find and clean up amp sim issues using the peak level meter VERY nice

http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=11818

anyone know of any other EQ plugins with this feature ?

Trying the demo today and I'll buy tomorrow I think,. after I give today's mix a listen with new ears )
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#34
Peak? As in the waveform behind the EQ lines?

A lot of EQ's have them, even some free ones.
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#35
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Peak? As in the waveform behind the EQ lines?

A lot of EQ's have them, even some free ones.



which ones ?....


I've done abit of google time and all i can find is

http://hofa-plugins.de/pages/start_en/hofa-iq-eq_en.php

might do what the H-EQ does but costs more ( waves special is current $99 )

OR uses the standard eq with spectrum metering like

http://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_FreqAnalyst/

or the meters that comes with PT.

but a separate windows is not as good workflow wise as the H-EQ i'm guessing.
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#36
I could be wrong but I think EasyQ has them.
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#37
The proper (non Rea-Plugs) version of ReaEQ does that, it's quite useful for finding stray frequencies
#38
All I know is that the ProEQ is S1 does it. So I'm happy.
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#39
ProEQ does look like it does the trick Not many do it.

the visual meter makes finding the Amp sim issues SO much easier
looking at ProEQ from http://www.fabfilter.com/products/pro-q-equalizer-plug-in

abit better for sure but the price ..hmm I emailed them for a coupon they seem to give them out when I googled it..

the wave H-EQ $99 offer with a $100 discount coupon is pretty good.
#40
Haha when I said "ProEQ" I was referencing StudioOne's stock EQ which has that name
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