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#1
Hey, I'm looking into getting a baritone electric, and Agile is the only company that makes entry-level model baritones.

Anyone have experience with them? I googled them and heard pretty positive things but would like to be reassured.

Also, they are affiliated with another brand, Douglas, are they worth looking into?
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#2
They are a decent guitar, for budget minded players
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#3
Decent guitars on par with epiphone standards and above. Also Douglas and SX i believe are their cheaper guitars. I've owned an SX jazz bass copy that's pretty solid but idk as far as their guitars in the Douglas/Sx range.
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#4
Really good value if you have a budget under $800~

I've owned two agiles now and have loved both quite a lot.
#5
I have never played one but I hear nothing but good things about them. I may buy one soon myself. I am considering an SX Tele.
#7
I'v owned a Douglas. It was cheap junk, but that could just be the model I had. I've played a few SX strats(somehow they keep pooping up on the used wall of my GC). They are ok. I'd say they are somewhere in between a standard Squier and the better Squiers(CV/VM lines). Basically, nothing to get excited about, and definitely not comparable to a MIM strat.

Go with Agile if you can afford a little more.
#8
Decent. Money is saved because, unless something has changed that I am unaware of, there is no quality control. You can only return them for a new one in the US if there's something wrong.

So I would say fairly decent for the price.
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#10
I own 2 of them and love them, one is a 3000 and the other a 3100M. The 3100M I put a pair of Slash pickups in and its my favorite guitar. My buddy has a Gibson Les Paul Studio and I would take the Agile over it (But that is probably more so to do with the pickups), but they would both be about the same quality and sound I would say from my experience.

I have been looking at the Agile baritone too, and when I get some money I will probably pick that one up.
#11
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I'v owned a Douglas. It was cheap junk, but that could just be the model I had. I've played a few SX strats(somehow they keep pooping up on the used wall of my GC). They are ok. I'd say they are somewhere in between a standard Squier and the better Squiers(CV/VM lines). Basically, nothing to get excited about, and definitely not comparable to a MIM strat.

Go with Agile if you can afford a little more.


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#12
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My buddy has a Gibson Les Paul Studio and I would take the Agile over it (But that is probably more so to do with the pickups), but they would both be about the same quality and sound I would say from my experience.

No they are not, Agile is on par with Epiphone yes, but not Gibson.
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#14
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No they are not, Agile is on par with Epiphone yes, but not Gibson.
I wouldn't say Gibson is exactly the benchmark for quality these days. I had a Les Paul Special that had quite a few issues from the factory, a few uneven frets and some unacceptable blemishes in the finish for such an expensive guitar.

Then on the other hand, I played around with a few Agiles that were pretty damn nice. Much nicer than I was expecting, just like how the LP was much shittier than I was expecting. It can be hit or miss is what I'm saying.
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#15
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I wouldn't say Gibson is exactly the benchmark for quality these days. I had a Les Paul Special that had quite a few issues from the factory, a few uneven frets and some unacceptable blemishes in the finish for such an expensive guitar.

Then on the other hand, I played around with a few Agiles that were pretty damn nice. Much nicer than I was expecting, just like how the LP was much shittier than I was expecting. It can be hit or miss is what I'm saying.

What yr was the guitar? Since Gibson have started using the Pleck system their fret jobs are really good
Yes you will occasionally get a Gibson with something wrong, but most of the time it is the horrible set-ups that turn people off to Gibsons.

I remember seeing an old video of Gibson actually destroying any guitars that did not pass QC.
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#16
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No they are not, Agile is on par with Epiphone yes, but not Gibson.


I have a buddy who has been playing over 35 years and plays a Gibson Les Paul Elegant daily and is his #1 guitar that will tell you my Agile 3000 after the setup plays every bit as well as his Les Paul. He likes to play it at his gigs.
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#17
I think what everyone needs to remind themselves is that every guitar is different in one way or another, so it would be silly to judge an entire brand based on one guitar that they played in Guitar Center for 15 mins.

Besides that, the QC of Agile's is pretty damn lackluster imo. Threads about Agile's having issues in regards to all sorts of things about the guitars crop up on this forum often.
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#18
I bought one, ordered from out in the UK so had no return policy.
Was a bit of a gamble but it's really nice. Guy down the guitar shop had a go on it and asked how much I paid and he was really impressed.
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#20
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IMO Agiles are easily superior to Epiphones. Better even than the lower-priced Gibsons.


No they aren't.

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#21
Quote by peskypesky
IMO Agiles are easily superior to Epiphones. Better even than the lower-priced Gibsons.

And how many gibsons have you owned/played and how many Agiles?

I would have to say most of the Internet Gibson hate is people who can not/do not want to afford one.
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#22
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IMO Agiles are easily superior to Epiphones. Better even than the lower-priced Gibsons.


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#23
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No they are not, Agile is on par with Epiphone yes, but not Gibson.


Sorry, just re-read my post, and I didn't mean the whole line was equal, but between those two guitars that I was playing I would say quality, sound and playability where the same.
#25
Agiles seem to reasonable guitars considering the cash. I have a Douglas, I was lucky that it came from the factory pretty decent. Another friend of mine got one, the solder job they did on it was pitiful, I had to redo all the connections, but other than that, it was fine.

I think it is pretty unreasonable to compare an Agile to a Gibson, by and large Gibsons have a good rep and their guitars have good QC, the low end models tend to have more lemons than I think is acceptable, but at the same time the low end of any brand is going to have similar issues, the low end Gibsons just happen to be much more expensive than other companies' low end guitars.

Agile isn't really the same league. Sure, you can compare an Agile LP clone with the cheapest LP Gibson makes, and you might get the right Agile and wrong Gibson and have a match. Now compare the Agile to what it is really supposed to model, a standard (traditional) or custom. Not even on Agile's best day do those two compare.
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#26
No one is right or wrong in this thread, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Ive owned an Agile 3000 and would say its a decent guitar, really nice value for the cost. But to say that it blows all epiphones and gibsons out of the water is unreal, it really depends on the guitar. It's definitely a good guitar and better then a good chunk of epiphones and gibsons i've played but thats just my luck (and due to the fact that most guitar stores don't have a clue as to how to setup guitars).
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No one is right or wrong in this thread, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Ive owned an Agile 3000 and would say its a decent guitar, really nice value for the cost. But to say that it blows all epiphones and gibsons out of the water is unreal, it really depends on the guitar. It's definitely a good guitar and better then a good chunk of epiphones and gibsons i've played but thats just my luck (and due to the fact that most guitar stores don't have a clue as to how to setup guitars).


Exactly. We're all stating opinions. IMO, the Agiles I've played are better-made instruments than the Epiphone Les Pauls I've played in recent years. They are also better-made than some of the inexpensive Gibsons I've played at GC in the past few years. Do they blow ALL Gibsons away? No. But I've also never seen anyone write that who wasn't joking.
#28
I've never seen anyone write that, period.
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I haven't either.


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#31
How would an Agile AL-2000 compare to an Epiphone Les Paul Standard? I've been getting mixed sayings so I was wondering if one of you guys could give me a solid answer.
#32
Play them and find out.

Personally I wouldn't take that over the Epiphone.
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#33
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How would an Agile AL-2000 compare to an Epiphone Les Paul Standard? I've been getting mixed sayings so I was wondering if one of you guys could give me a solid answer.


My solid answer is the Agile is superior.

This guy agrees with me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Ru9mPqWZo
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#36
Dude nobody cares. You have people on Youtube saying that their Epiphone Special II is better than a Gibson.
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#37
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Dude nobody cares. You have people on Youtube saying that their Epiphone Special II is better than a Gibson.

this

Anyways I've worked on a few that needed fret leveling or had faulty parts.
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#38
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Dude nobody cares. You have people on Youtube saying that their Epiphone Special II is better than a Gibson.


Link?
#39
Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
Dude nobody cares. You have people on Youtube saying that their Epiphone Special II is better than a Gibson.

+1

I have played cheap guitars that felt great, and expensive guitars that felt horrible. Gibson's have better quality wood, hardware and electronics. Now if you like it great but you don't have to. But this is fact
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#40
I have owned 3 agile guitars. An Al2000, 3100 and 3010SE. All of them were great guitars...for the money. Now I have had 2 gibson faded SG's, which would arguably be the lower budget gibson guitars. The quality of the Gibson guitar was better, the sound of the Gibson was better. I always do the sustain and resonance test (strum a chord and put your hand at the bottom strap button and top of the head stock) and in both SG's you could feel more resonance. Granted all this is subjective. Are the Agile's good guitars. Yes. Do they compare to Gibson's . But whoever claims they play better than Studios or higher level Gibson's, that's just nucking futts! When I had an Agile I rationalized it as being on par, because I was not willing to shell out the dough for the Gibson, now I have taken the plunge and got a Standard and it blows the Agiles out of the water.
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