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if a really hot chick thats high and drunk as balls starts hitting on you like crazy and you're not quite as high or drunk and just fuk the bits is that rape
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#2
Yes. Don't do it.

Don't know if it's a stab at me or not lol. If it isn't, don't do it. If it is, well, okay
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#3
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if a really hot chick thats high and drunk as balls starts hitting on you like crazy and you're not quite as high or drunk and just fuk the bits is that rape


No it's not. Skyler is innocent and anyone who says otherwise is a racist.
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#4
I don't know why this is still a thing.
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#6
Uh...if you have to ask yourself if the sex you just had was rape or not, then it was rape.

Go turn yourself in, you sick bastard.
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if a really hot chick thats high and drunk as balls starts hitting on you like crazy and you're not quite as high or drunk and just fuk the bits is that rape


Truthfully, yes. If a girl is drunk and/or stoned enough that she isn't making coherent decisions you can be charged with rape. Prosecution lawyers will argue the girl was so messed up there was no possible way to consent.
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Yes. Don't do it.

Don't know if it's a stab at me or not lol. If it isn't, don't do it. If it is, well, okay

wasn't a stab at you bro. fuk the h8ers, ur kool
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she can't take you to court if you kill her first
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if a really hot chick thats high and drunk as balls starts hitting on you like crazy and you're not quite as high or drunk and just fuk the bits is that rape

It's not rape. It's her choice. For people saying she isn't in the right state ofmind to make that choice I want to reply: It was her choice to get into that state of mind. She's the one that took the drugs and alcohol knowing that she would have a chance to become a slut.
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It's not rape. It's her choice. For people saying she isn't in the right state ofmind to make that choice I want to reply: It was her choice to get into that state of mind. She's the one that took the drugs and alcohol knowing that she would have a chance to become a slut.

I can't tell if this is trolling or not but it makes the butthurt in me rise.
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Truthfully, yes. If a girl is drunk and/or stoned enough that she isn't making coherent decisions you can be charged with rape. Prosecution lawyers will argue the girl was so messed up there was no possible way to consent.

i'm not necessarily talking faded, i got dragged to bed (figuratively) by this chick that was on speed and drunk but being such a lovely fellow (read: pussy) i didn't even have sex with her

reminiscing about that makes me really wonder if i should have, if she's throwing herself at me that kind of seems like consent
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i'm not necessarily talking faded, i got dragged to bed (figuratively) by this chick that was on speed and drunk but being such a lovely fellow (read: pussy) i didn't even have sex with her

reminiscing about that makes me really wonder if i should have, if she's throwing herself at me that kind of seems like consent

If though it may technically be consent, it's still one of those gray areas where it's like, "Does she really consent, or is she just horny because she's drunk & high?" I would avoid situations like that. You could potentially get in legal trouble, if she decides later on that she wasn't capable of consenting.

Plus, when you're not drunk/high, having sex with a drunk & high chick isn't as great as it sounds.
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i'm not necessarily talking faded, i got dragged to bed (figuratively) by this chick that was on speed and drunk but being such a lovely fellow (read: pussy) i didn't even have sex with her

reminiscing about that makes me really wonder if i should have, if she's throwing herself at me that kind of seems like consent


That's what I thought. I was sure that's what the case was. I was a bit intoxicated, though nowhere near her level and we had sex.

Everyone on here then stated how it was rape because she couldn't legally consent because she was intoxicated. The fact that I was less intoxicated than her means that I have a better state of mind I suppose and yea
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#17
Thinks of that scene in superbad. It's not bad if you're drunk too.

But seriously, its not rape in my case because I'm God's gift to women, and she would certainly want my d sober or not.
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It's not rape. It's her choice. For people saying she isn't in the right state ofmind to make that choice I want to reply: It was her choice to get into that state of mind. She's the one that took the drugs and alcohol knowing that she would have a chance to become a slut.

This is the correct answer.

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If though it may technically be consent, it's still one of those gray areas where it's like, "Does she really consent, or is she just horny because she's drunk & high?" I would avoid situations like that. You could potentially get in legal trouble, if she decides later on that she wasn't capable of consenting.

Plus, when you're not drunk/high, having sex with a drunk & high chick isn't as great as it sounds.

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#19
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i'm not necessarily talking faded, i got dragged to bed (figuratively) by this chick that was on speed and drunk but being such a lovely fellow (read: pussy) i didn't even have sex with her


Not raping someone does not make you a pussy.

On the other hand, not raping someone does not make you a lovely fellow. It makes you a decent human being. Congratulations, you're not shit.

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If you're trying to set it up to show how having sex with a drunk person shouldn't be rape, that's not a fair comparison.


In the driving scenario, there's one party making every decision.
In the rape scenario, there's one drunk person, and one sober person that can take advantage of that. It's not the same.
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#21
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This is also the correct answer.


This is also the correct answer.


You have a rapist mentality.
#23
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You have a rapist mentality.

I don't see it as rape If the person willingly put themselves in that mental state, then they must accept and take responsibility for all the actions that they do while in it.
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Must've been a boring party if the guy managed to stay sober all the way through.
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I don't see it as rape If the person willingly put themselves in that mental state, then they must accept and take responsibility for all the actions that they do while in it.

That's the same logic as blaming people for how they dress. They chose to dress that way so that have to deal with people being assholes to them.

The whole point of alcohol laws is that people can't be held entirely responsible for things they do while drunk. If someone passes out drunk and someone rapes them, it's their fault? They shouldn't have drank that much but people shouldn't rape someone who's incapacitated.


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Right, let's turn this scenario around. Sober girl has sex with drunk guy. Apart from the fact that sex must be horrible that way, is that also rape?

EDIT: I know a LOT of girls that had drunk sex. All of them accepted that it was their own responsibility at that moment and didn't blame the guys
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#27
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That's the same logic as blaming people for how they dress. They chose to dress that way so that have to deal with people being assholes to them.

The whole point of alcohol laws is that people can't be held entirely responsible for things they do while drunk. If someone passes out drunk and someone rapes them, it's their fault? They shouldn't have drank that much but people shouldn't rape someone who's incapacitated.


I'm ****ing appalled by the misogyny on this place sometimes.

Those situations aren't the same as the one burgery posted. In his, one person got drunk and consented to have sex, and then later regretted it so the person who consensually had sex with them is now a rapist. In both your first scenario someone has sex with someone else when they didn't give consent, and the other is the same (the person did not give consent).
Drunk consent is still consent in my eyes.
You saying that people can't be held responsible for things they do while drunk is wrong; if someone gets drunk and rapes someone or murders someone then it's their fault.

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Right, let's turn this scenario around. Sober girl has sex with drunk guy. Apart from the fact that sex must be horrible that way, is that also rape?

Not if he gave consent.
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#28
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Yes.

Where is your argument now?


I haven't put forward any argument whatsoever (yet), just wanted to make sure that double standard were no issue here
Also, what macashmack guy said. Passing out is quite a different situation.

EDIT: and what if BOTH parties were drunk? Both can be charged for rape?
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#29
That's why you never stick around until she wakes up sober. God, you guys are such a bunch of amateurs!
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Yes.

Where is your argument now?

Everyone immediately jumps on the "well it's her fault for getting drunk" or "what if this happened the other way around" bandwagon without realizing the stupidity they are conveying.

Should I be free to rob a man who passed out from drinking? After all, it's his fault for passing out. Clearly everyone needs to be aware that being drunk nullifies your rights so that we can steer clear of alcohol forever.

If I'm drunk and kill you, surely I go to jail?
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Congrats, you happen to know a lot of girls who weren't raped. While that is great for them, that does nothing to help the girls who were and continue to be raped.


You just said yourself that it is rape if they were drunk and not able to consent, but ^ here you say they weren't raped? I know where you're coming from, but we should make clear that we are talking about different situations here, in which alcohol may not play such as big a role as other factors.
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If I'm drunk and kill you, surely I go to jail?

People just want to be able to have fun and not have any consequences if it doesn't go their way.
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Should I be free to rob a man who passed out from drinking? After all, it's his fault for passing out. Clearly everyone needs to be aware that being drunk nullifies your rights so that we can steer clear of alcohol forever.


wat. A more analogous example would be a drunk dude writing blank cheques and handing them to party goers. He is initiating the action but he is in an impaired state of mind.
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Everyone immediately jumps on the "well it's her fault for getting drunk" or "what if this happened the other way around" bandwagon without realizing the stupidity they are conveying.

Should I be free to rob a man who passed out from drinking? After all, it's his fault for passing out. Clearly everyone needs to be aware that being drunk nullifies your rights so that we can steer clear of alcohol forever.

Can't tell if trolling or just putting forth a really stupid argument...
#35
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Those situations aren't the same as the one burgery posted. In his, one person got drunk and consented to have sex, and then later regretted it so the person who consensually had sex with them is now a rapist. In both your first scenario someone has sex with someone else when they didn't give consent, and the other is the same (the person did not give consent).
Drunk consent is still consent in my eyes.
You saying that people can't be held responsible for things they do while drunk is wrong; if someone gets drunk and rapes someone or murders someone then it's their fault.


You're leaving out that the sober party could acknowledge the fact that the drunk party isn't in the right state of mind and NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM.
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In a lot of cases the rape occurs after a female is already passed out.


As I said, passing out makes it an entirely different situation.

But yeah, go ahead and call me a rape apologist because I'm trying to differentiate
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Yes... not sure how that's related.

That in one case I'm viewed as responsible for my actions, while in the other one I'm somehow not responsible for my actions.
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You are implying that every female who is raped while drunk is going around and initiating sexual contact with multiple people. In a lot of cases the rape occurs after a female is already passed out. That's not writing a blank check, that's being robbed while unconscious.


LOL no I'm not. That was stipulated in the opening post.
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You're leaving out that the sober party could acknowledge the fact that the drunk party isn't in the right state of mind and NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM.

Well than that person is a low life, but a rapist, he/she is not.
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You are implying that every female who is raped while drunk is going around and initiating sexual contact with multiple people. In a lot of cases the rape occurs after a female is already passed out. That's not writing a blank check, that's being robbed while unconscious.

But we are talking abut Burgery's scenario, in which she gives CONSENT.
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if a really hot chick thats high and drunk as balls starts hitting on you like crazy and you're not quite as high or drunk and just fuk the bits is that rape


See, you're not comprehending properly. Now please address my analogy.
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