Acϵ♠
UG Board King
Join date: Apr 2006
120 IQ
#1
So let's say i have a loaded pickguard that doesn't match the colour of the body at all. Instead of unwiring everything and rewiring it to a different pickguard, is it possible to just screw on the matching pickguard right over top of the loaded one? Aside from being a really thick guard after that, is it possible? Would you need longer screws? Would it mess with the bridge? Has anyone tried this or am i out to lunch.
Quote by yellowfrizbee
What does a girl have to do to get it in the butt thats all I ever wanted from you. Why, Ace? Why? I clean my asshole every night hoping and wishing and it never happens.
Bitches be Crazy.

▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Insanity ninja
UG's resident potwash.
Join date: Sep 2009
90 IQ
#2
You don't have to rewire anything to replace a pickguard. Assuming this is a strat that is...
Silverburst
Insanity ninja
UG's resident potwash.
Join date: Sep 2009
90 IQ
#3
In fact, wtf am I on about. I've never seen any guitar with a pickguard soldered into the circuitry.
Silverburst
Lavatain
5150 III Enthusiast
Join date: May 2008
233 IQ
#4
For the trouble you'd need to get the new pickguard on top, you'd be taking off the old one anyway. All you do is loosen a few nuts that hold your potentiometers.
"Air created the greenness. And once you've got something, that leads to otherness." - Karl Pilkington.
Acϵ♠
UG Board King
Join date: Apr 2006
120 IQ
#5
No guys you dont get what im saying. Literally just screwing a pickguard on top of another one that's already in the guitar. Is that possible.
Quote by yellowfrizbee
What does a girl have to do to get it in the butt thats all I ever wanted from you. Why, Ace? Why? I clean my asshole every night hoping and wishing and it never happens.
Bitches be Crazy.

▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
sonofgkex
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
130 IQ
#6
How freaking lazy are you? There's no soldering involved, and all you have to do is unscrew things and measure pickup height from strings.

Unless you mean that you have one of those Dimarzio things for people who cant change their own pickups. In that case you could totally do what you said with longer screws.


My recommendation, learn how to do maintenance on your own guitar so you don't have to rely on lazy options like loaded pick guards and such crap.
Acϵ♠
UG Board King
Join date: Apr 2006
120 IQ
#7
Quote by sonofgkex
How freaking lazy are you? There's no soldering involved, and all you have to do is unscrew things and measure pickup height from strings.

Unless you mean that you have one of those Dimarzio things for people who cant change their own pickups. In that case you could totally do what you said with longer screws.


My recommendation, learn how to do maintenance on your own guitar so you don't have to rely on lazy options like loaded pick guards and such crap.


Sorry for asking a question. There is zero reason for you to react so childishly and dickishly. Forgive me for being new at modding guitars and not knowing jack shit about electronics. Fuck off if you're gonna be a dick.
Quote by yellowfrizbee
What does a girl have to do to get it in the butt thats all I ever wanted from you. Why, Ace? Why? I clean my asshole every night hoping and wishing and it never happens.
Bitches be Crazy.

▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Bigbazz
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2013
20 IQ
#8
Only one way to find out. You're asking as if you're expecting someone to have tried it already.
Cornford Hellcat
Peavey 5150
Marshall 1960A
1994 Ibanez Jem 7V
Fender Stratocaster x3 (2 of them built from bits and pieces!)
Pablo Mortis
Registered User
Join date: Apr 2013
20 IQ
#9
Quote by Acϵ♠
Sorry for asking a question. There is zero reason for you to react so childishly and dickishly. Forgive me for being new at modding guitars and not knowing jack shit about electronics. Fuck off if you're gonna be a dick.


All anyone's trying to say is that, once you've taken the screws off, you only have to take the nuts off the pots and the pickup switch to completely remove the hardware (still wired) from the scratchplate, thus allowing you to attach the new scratchplate, just by putting them nuts back then putting the screws in again
Vypor
FoxHound Elite
Join date: Jun 2008
80 IQ
#10
With as much as you seem to care about it, I'd just use a sharpie in whatever color you prefer.

Having stacked pick guards sounds stupid, probably looks stupid, and will undoubtedly be uncomfortable.

Of course, to each their own. . .
Treble>Epiphone Prophecy EX - MXR micro Amp - MXR Blue Box - MXR Fullbore - MXR Noise Clamp - Vox AD30VT
Bass>Ibanez BTB505 - MXR Blowtorch - MXR D.I. - Peavey MaxBass 700 - Peavey TVX410
sonofgkex
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
130 IQ
#11
Quote by Acϵ♠
Sorry for asking a question. There is zero reason for you to react so childishly and dickishly. Forgive me for being new at modding guitars and not knowing jack shit about electronics. Fuck off if you're gonna be a dick.



Sorry buddy, some advice happens to come with strings attached. If you ask a stupid question then be prepared to be informed that you have done so.

Even a fundamental understanding of how pickups and guitars work could have told you the answer to your question.

I don't know, maybe before you ask if the bridge would be affected by the pick guard you should take a sec to look at your guitar and realize that the bridge doesn't touch the freaking pickguard. (I assume we are talking strat-type guitars here)

Maybe you just thought extra plastic would interfere with the magnetic field of the pickups?

Maybe you should just go to a guitar shop and get it switched by a professional because you don't know what you're doing.

For the record, I didn't know you were new to this or anything. Your question made it sound like you were just too lazy to change a pick guard because of the way you phrased it, and my animosity was directed more toward the products themselves than you. But now that you whined so much about how butthurt you are I really do think you're a little pathetic.
Acϵ♠
UG Board King
Join date: Apr 2006
120 IQ
#12
Quote by sonofgkex
Sorry buddy, some advice happens to come with strings attached. If you ask a stupid question then be prepared to be informed that you have done so.

Even a fundamental understanding of how pickups and guitars work could have told you the answer to your question.

I don't know, maybe before you ask if the bridge would be affected by the pick guard you should take a sec to look at your guitar and realize that the bridge doesn't touch the freaking pickguard. (I assume we are talking strat-type guitars here)

Maybe you just thought extra plastic would interfere with the magnetic field of the pickups?

Maybe you should just go to a guitar shop and get it switched by a professional because you don't know what you're doing.

For the record, I didn't know you were new to this or anything. Your question made it sound like you were just too lazy to change a pick guard because of the way you phrased it, and my animosity was directed more toward the products themselves than you. But now that you whined so much about how butthurt you are I really do think you're a little pathetic.


Man, the things that must keep you awake at night. I dont have the body and pickups or pickguard yet, which is why i was asking. Maybe a keyboard warrior like yourself finds it normal to just flame someone new to gear building for asking a noobish question, but most of the folks here are actually helpful without being a supreme asshole about it like you. Why does this even bother you so much? If you find it a dumb question--as i even clearly stated--then why even answer at all with this garbage attitude of yours? When i have all the things i need, maybe i will take it to a professional luthier. Which company do you work for? Maybe a "professional" like you can show me how to put some nuts and bolts together?

Seriously man. Get the hell out of here and please dont come back if all you're gonna do is be a dick. This is not the pit, i asked a plain question hoping for a plain answer, not some ass looking to get his latest raging e-boner by being an elitist.

To you other guys who actually helped, thanks. Ive never removed a pickguard before so i didn't know.
Quote by yellowfrizbee
What does a girl have to do to get it in the butt thats all I ever wanted from you. Why, Ace? Why? I clean my asshole every night hoping and wishing and it never happens.
Bitches be Crazy.

▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
Rusty_Chisel
Registered User
Join date: Oct 2008
60 IQ
#13
So this guitar is not even assembled?

I think people's responses are really more out of actual anger that you are going to do such a half assed job on it than that you asked a dumb question. People take modding and building very seriously. To just take the easy way out (which I don't think its easy, this has the potential to create issues down the line) is almost an insult (a little melodramatic I know).

Listen to what the people are telling you here. Do it the right way or else it will be extremely frustrating project and you might give up. This is extremely fun hobby. I just got a house with a garage that I am turning into my workshop for all of my tools for building and I can't tell you how excited I am about planning my next build in there.
MrFlibble
Puts a bangin' donk on it
Join date: Apr 2008
462 IQ
#14
It won't work. The pot shafts will not fit through a second guard, nor will the pickup selector switch. Additionally, since pickguard edges are bevelled, the two guards won't line up on top of each other smoothly; there will be a significant gap where one gets narrower and then the wider side of the other sits on top, overhanging.

As for people syaing you don't have to solder guards in, yes, you do. If the guitar is properly shielded you will need to solder the shielding (be it paint or tape) to ground and you also have the jack which usually can not be removed or changed without soldering, since very few guitars are routed to allow a complete jack to be attached to a pickguard form outside the guitar and then pushed through. You also have the bridge ground wire which runs through the body of the guitar and also needs to meet the ground on the pots or pickguard.

So there's your answer. Way to be dickheads, everybody else.
Yes, I know everything. No, I can't play worth a damn.
A child is trafficked and sold for sex slavery every 30 seconds. Support Love146.
sonofgkex
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
130 IQ
#15
Quote by Acϵ♠
Ive never removed a pickguard before so i didn't know.


Step 1: Get a screwdriver
Step 2: Remove the strings
Step 3: Unscrew the pick guard
Step 4: Tie all the strings around the screwdriver as tightly as possible so you won't lose it when you do step 5
Step 5: Lubricate the screwdriver and jam it up your ass so that it sits right next to your left ear. Keeping it in close proximity to your head will help you remember where it is and how it is used.


These simple tips will prevent you from forgetting how screws work in the future, and taking the time to use old strings as a removal device saves time and reduces waste. I hope my very simple guide has helped you in some way.
sonofgkex
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
130 IQ
#16
Quote by MrFlibble
Way to be dickheads, everybody else.



I think we were really too busy telling him how stupid he was to seriously consider his idea. I mean, only a finite number of very special people would even consider doing this a serious option.
eddiehimself
Call me EH, eh?
Join date: Jun 2006
361 IQ
#17
Quote by MrFlibble


So there's your answer. Way to be dickheads, everybody else.


Because you're not a dickhead at all, are you?

Just unscrew the pickguard and have a look inside to see whether you need to do any soldering. You might as well just start as you mean to go on if you are serious about guitar modification.
EH


"Show me war; show me pestilence; show me the blood-red hands of retribution..."
Last edited by eddiehimself at May 3, 2013,
Acϵ♠
UG Board King
Join date: Apr 2006
120 IQ
#18
Quote by MrFlibble
It won't work. The pot shafts will not fit through a second guard, nor will the pickup selector switch. Additionally, since pickguard edges are bevelled, the two guards won't line up on top of each other smoothly; there will be a significant gap where one gets narrower and then the wider side of the other sits on top, overhanging.

As for people syaing you don't have to solder guards in, yes, you do. If the guitar is properly shielded you will need to solder the shielding (be it paint or tape) to ground and you also have the jack which usually can not be removed or changed without soldering, since very few guitars are routed to allow a complete jack to be attached to a pickguard form outside the guitar and then pushed through. You also have the bridge ground wire which runs through the body of the guitar and also needs to meet the ground on the pots or pickguard.

So there's your answer. Way to be dickheads, everybody else.


Ok yeah. I wasn't expecting it to work, or even be a good idea, but i thought i would ask anyways.


Quote by sonofgkex
Step 1: Get a screwdriver
Step 2: Remove the strings
Step 3: Unscrew the pick guard
Step 4: Tie all the strings around the screwdriver as tightly as possible so you won't lose it when you do step 5
Step 5: Lubricate the screwdriver and jam it up your ass so that it sits right next to your left ear. Keeping it in close proximity to your head will help you remember where it is and how it is used.


These simple tips will prevent you from forgetting how screws work in the future, and taking the time to use old strings as a removal device saves time and reduces waste. I hope my very simple guide has helped you in some way.


Ah so you are an expert in these things . Sounds like you have a ton of experience with these 5 steps--how many screwdrivers have you lost up there? Also does it matter what gauge of strings i use? Which gauge did you use to retrieve the screwdriver from that far up your anus? Or actually you probably still have them stuck up there which explains your hilarious complex and unreasonable, unjustified anger towards something so insignificant.
Quote by yellowfrizbee
What does a girl have to do to get it in the butt thats all I ever wanted from you. Why, Ace? Why? I clean my asshole every night hoping and wishing and it never happens.
Bitches be Crazy.

▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
sonofgkex
Registered User
Join date: Nov 2012
130 IQ
#19
Quote by Acϵ♠
unjustified anger towards something so insignificant.



Yeah, that's you in a nutshell, buddy.
Acϵ♠
UG Board King
Join date: Apr 2006
120 IQ
#20
Quote by sonofgkex
Yeah, that's you in a nutshell, buddy.


http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/anger


im not angry. a little shocked at how babyish your behaviour is in this thread maybe, but not angry


by the way i know a good proctologist for your screwdriver problems, if you're interested
Quote by yellowfrizbee
What does a girl have to do to get it in the butt thats all I ever wanted from you. Why, Ace? Why? I clean my asshole every night hoping and wishing and it never happens.
Bitches be Crazy.

▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ஜ۩۩ஜ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬
-MintSauce-
Time Lord
Join date: May 2006
190 IQ
#21
I'm going to go ahead and close this thread before things get out of hand, and because I think that the topic has been answered.

If you need more information, hit me up with a PM.