#1
I am shifting gears from playing in a metalcore band to playing in a bar band and need a versatile amp. I need one amp that can pull off crystalline cleans and thick distortion with lots low end.

What I have now:

Fender 94 twin pro tube: This amp is almost perfect. Perfect cleans but the crunch is not the best and the overdrive channel just doesnt have quite enough low end for me.

Mesa tripple rectum fryer: Love this amp for the orange channel. I record all my leads with this one. Cleans are passable with a little reverb. Might consider trading my head for a 2x12 combo.

Peavey 5150II: I REALLY love this amp. The distortion is so thick and full on this amp that I have a hard time playing anything else despite its mediocre clean channel. One of my biggest pet peves is thin trebley distortion. this amp is the exact opposite.


Any amps that can pull it all off? I hear good things about Egnater amps. Never played one though. The twin is almost good enough. I just wish it had that chest thumping distortion of the 5150 Maybe if I closed up the back it would project more low end.
#2
Why not get a 3 way amp switcher and use them all. Have the best of all worlds.
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#3
Please dont talk me into doing that(it wouldnt be hard). I am trying to do the responsible thing and not have 4k worth of amps
#4
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thats not exactly uncommon.

get a splawn quickrod (EL34 think pissed off marshall)/promod (KT88 think f*** the world) you can easily find one for a grand or so.

really nice controllable as far as how much gain you want. three gears switchable with OD1 and OD2. cleans aren't great, but they are friendly to rolling back if you don't mind a little bit of dirt in your cleans.

http://www.splawnguitars.com/amps08.htm
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i am getting insurance for my gear at my new house and everything needs to be appraised. i have a feeling it will be a few dollars past $4k across the board. and they require a monitored security system which my other house is. but its still ~$42 a month just for the monitoring every month (IIRC with a three year contract).

buy a splawn.

R45VT has got some sexy amps
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#7
Axe FX?
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#8
Hmmm....Maybe a Soldano Lucky 13..... Maybe a Marshall JVM....
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#9
Get a Peavey JSX or a Marshall JVM or maybe Axe FX. I have a peavey JSX and it ****ing rocks. The Clean Channel is nice and warm. Overdrive Channel can do classic rock to Thrash Metal. The High Gain channel is pretty much like the 5150 gain. It's thick but not flubby sounding and the solos are buttery smooth. No ear piercing treble with this bad boy. And it has an ok built in noise gate although I prefer my ISP Decimator.
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+1 i like those. only ever played two, but they were pretty badass.

i like my vht sig:X, pretty solid all arround. three channel. cleans are great and the amp is pretty flexible overall.
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#11
going to be very hard to get all 3 exact tones in 1 amp. very hard. and expensive. do you have a budget?

try some brands like:
Mesa
Bogner
CEC
Custom Audio Electronics
BOLT
Deizel
Fryette?
Soldano
I hear good things about the flagship Blackstar Series 1
Framus?
Hughes and Kettner maybe

Picked these based on top quality, multiple channels (2-3+), reputation for versatility or diverse tones, HIGH GAIN ability, reputation for semi likable clean channels or really good cleans.
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#12
Look at a mesa mark series amp, Peavey JSX, Marshall JVM410JS
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#13
I would seriously just buy two amps. Get yourself an old 1980's Peavey Solid State combo & a 5150. Ideal for a bar band as you can have crystal clean incredibly loud without being mic'd up.
#14
Keep the amp you like the most, and get a Kemper Profiling Amp to model the other two.
#15
Thanks for all the suggestions guys! Been checking out sound clips, lots of good options suggested. Looks like I have a lot of amps to test out. Until I find that perfect amp I think I might try closing up the back of the twin and throwing the Mesa into the mix with an amp switcher like someone suggested.

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I have never heard any digital modeling amps that could hold a candle to a tube amp at live volumes. Love the concept though. They just sound so thin and off somehow. I always end up thinking, "dam he was a good guitar player, too bad his Line6 POS amp made it sound like he was playing through a $100 Squire."

Checked out the Fractal website and was surprised to see that a lot of artists whose tones I like(Periphery, Neal Schon, Animals As Leaders, Mark Tremonti) use their gear. If this amp by itself could truly deliver all those tones I would buy it in a heartbeat. Still very leery of anything digital though.
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#19
Why don't you try your Fender with some OD/distortion pedals? It seems like that's the only thing holding you back from just using that amp. From my experience, that type of amp actually takes distortion pedals really well.
#20
egnater tweaker 40/88, i have the 88 and its great. the kt-88's really help it achieve a huge low end. very versatile and tweak-able as the name would suggest.

I know a lot of people dont like it because its inherintly a dark voice amp, but that's easy to eq out, as bruce egnater says tweak with your ears not your eyes.

A lot of people seem to adjust eq knobs to what they "think" should be right rather than using their ears.

But anyway i got mine new for 500 pounds on a sale, i think they sell for 800 new though. but should be pretty cheap 2nd hand, especially in America.

and will easily produce great cleans and a huge distortion.
#22
For a bar band a Mesa Express + comes to mind. Would say mark v, but having played in bars for many years, I would NEVER take an amp I couldn't replace easily and the express is pushing that limit. Generally I say Blues Jr or other nice clean amp with a pedal board and mic that shit but thats me.
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#23
5150 III
Mesa Mark IV
Mesa Roadster

Maybe an Orange Thunderverb?

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#24
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not sure how I forgot about that one... I played it at NAMM in January and it blew my mind. I would own already except I am getting married next month and just signed back up for school... I have no more gear money(or any money for that matter)... if I can sell my 6505 for a decent amount I will have a fund going to one.

Fantastic cleans and clear, dynamic high gain.


ASG sells them for $1000. It has a shared EQ, which is NOT a draw back. Serial effects loop, presence, resonance.
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#25
ENGL Steve Morse.

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#26
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5150 III
Mesa Mark IV
Mesa Roadster

Maybe an Orange Thunderverb?

Fryette/VHT Sig:X

Those

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For a bar band a Mesa Express + comes to mind.

and....not so much


seriously, what is your budget and are you looking to replace what you have and get down to one maybe two amps?
#27
the tweaker 88 can get heavier than the 40 i believe.

i would not recommend you the 40. i have it and love it, but it just isnt as good for heavier styles that the rectifier can handle.

on snap. buy a kemper. that would be awesome and probably very cost effective (compared to 50% of options i listed with list prices in the 3000-4000 range).

only thing is - your going to be a little more tech savy.
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