#1
Hey guys, I've been looking through the Forums and what not, trying to find information on both these pickups in unison. I really love the high gain from the Invaders and the clean tone with the D - Activators are wicked as well. I will be re-customizing my Epiphone SG, giving it a paint job and changing the pickups and hardware.

My main playing style is Prog metal-core and Djent.

The amp I am running is a Peavey 6505 with an Orange 4x12 cab with Vintage 30's with an ISP Decimator noise reduction Pedal!

THE MAIN QUESTIONS ARE:
* Will these two pickups work together? I read that if there are two pickups which arent in a set it could kill tone and ultimately change the sound!
* Will these pickups suit the style?
*What other Pickups would you recommend for fat bottom end distortion and a nice clean tone with nice bottom end but with lots of clarity!

Thanks guys!
#2
It will work fine, if you like that high output fat bottom end you could also look at the Bareknuckle Warpig. I really like the Invader, a friend of mine who played guitar in my first band had one in the bridge slot of his Yamaha Pacifica 412, thing sounded awesome and wasn't muddy (like you might expect from a bass heavy pickup) at all, it even sounded really great for cleans (which I also didn't expect from such a high output pickup).

The Invader is great, mixing and matching pickups is not only fine but its awesome. I have one strat with a SD Full Shred, Duckbucker and Lil59 (all very different sounding and varying output pickups), another strat has a JB Jr and 2 Fender Tex Mex Pickups (again quite contrasting but works great together). Look at the Dimarzio Evo set you will find on an Ibanez Jem, the middle slot single coil Evo is way way lower output and completely different voiced to the other pickups, it's a fairly vintage output and tame/clear sounding single coil, rather than a fat high output single coil that you might expect next to the humbucker Evo's

Both your pickup selections are passive so just go for it. Will they suit your style? Well the Invader will work well with your gear but only you can decide if it will suit your style, it may not suit your guitar or the settings you like to use, or it may work awesome. The D-Activator I have no experience with so I can't comment.

Mixing and Matching is fine though, do it.
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#3
You can mix and match any pickups together, other than passive and active pickups. Even then, you can get actives and passives to work in one guitar if you really want, it's just a huge pain to sort out.

The only problem is when mixing humbuckers made by Seymour Duncan, DiMarzio, Gibson and most other companies, witht he pickups made by or for Fender. Fender's pickups are the opposite phase to what everybody else uses, so you have to wire one pickup 'out of phase' to get it back in phase with the other pickup. It doens't require anything special—you don't do any more wiring than you would with regular installation—it's just something you have to keep in mind.

Anyway.

The Invader and D Activators are really specialist pickups and it's no surprise that most people who try them end up ripping them out. Both pickups are stupidly overwound to the point where they lose almost all clarity and really their only goal is to provide you with as much output as possible. If you're using a 6505 and playing metal styles then I would assume you're used to putting the gain on your amp up quite high, which means your pickup output is actually more or less irrelevant. It's not like you're trying to drive a Plexi head...

Try a Seymour Duncan Custom for the bridge and a Jazz, Full Shred or DiMarzio PAF Pro for the neck. The neck pickups are all based around your typical prog, fast response needs; little more output so they balance with bridge pickups better and lots of high-end and clarity so you can play a million notes a second with tons of gain and bass and nothing mushes out.
The Custom is simply the best 'metal' pickup for when you need both chugging heavy rhythm parts and also technical lead response from the same pickup. Most 'shred' pickups sound too thin to handle that kind of hard rhythm and most thick rhythm pickups are too muddy to stand out as lead pickups. The Custom is an even balance of everything so you can play more or less any modern, heavy style with it. It's especially good for the djent stuff because that's a style where you want quite classic mids, and most modern pickups either have the mids pushed too far or have them scooped out; again, the Custom's even balance means it has just enough without being overbearing.
The key for all of these is that they have just enough brightness and clarity to fit in well with an SG, without sounding thin.

Deepending on how you like to set the EQ on your amp, you may want to also look at the DiMarzio Evo 2, which is similar to a Duncan Custom but with slightly clearer bass and more mids, if you like to run your amp with a lot of bass and gain and scooped mids, or a Seymour Duncan Distortion which is pretty much the same as a Custom just with a mid boost for more output, which is good if you want to back the gain off our amp a bit more and you don't push the bass so much.
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#4
I disagree with the above, surely by having a higher output pickup he is reducing the need to turn up the gain on the 6505 (gain that past 6-7 becomes a flabby mess) and thus sounding better? Not only that but the 6505 sounds much tighter when the front is pushed hard, something achieved by a tubescreamer often enough but also by higher output pickups.

I also completely disagree about the Invader being "completely overwound and losing all clarity" man it sounds like you're talking full of shit to try to get the guy to buy the pickups you like, I always see you suggest the Custom, which is cool but it just aint the pickup for everyone, or every guitar.

If he wants to check the Invader out then that is his thing and honestly my experience with it does not add up to what you're saying, I think they pack plenty of clarity and they sound great. The ultimate Djent pickup is the Bareknuckle Painkiller, it adopted that reputation for itself long after it was released as all the Djent players switched to it, eventually the company rebranded it on the website as the Djent pickup, it was just as much a player trend to use that pickup for Djent as it is to suggest the 6505 for metal on this website.

This guy has already checked things out to come up with his own ideas on what he wants, forcing your suggestions on him, the same suggestions you throw at every pickup thread is not the way to go about giving good advice. He asked will these pickups work ok together, and the answer is yes they will.

Will they be exactly what he wants when he gets them? Maybe or maybe not, but nothing to say your favourite pickup is going to be any closer either. My favourite bridge humbucker is probably the Full Shred, but it isn't the right suggestion here.
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#5
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I disagree with the above, surely by having a higher output pickup he is reducing the need to turn up the gain on the 6505 (gain that past 6-7 becomes a flabby mess) and thus sounding better? Not only that but the 6505 sounds much tighter when the front is pushed hard, something achieved by a tubescreamer often enough but also by higher output pickups.

This doesn't make sense to me. If we're only regarding about the amount of gain you're pushing the amp with, when you have a tubescreamer or higher output pickups, you're driving the preamp harder. When you turn up the gain on the amp, you're also driving the preamp harder. What's the difference? Wouldn't using a Tubescreamer or hotter pickups create essentially the same effect as just turning up the gain a little more?

Besides, you never need to turn the gain past 6 on a 6505+ because the amount of gain that amp has on tap is absurd. It wouldn't matter what you put in front of the amp, such a ridiculous amount of gain will always make your guitar sound like ass.
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This doesn't make sense to me. When you have a tubescreamer or higher output pickups, you're driving the preamp harder. When you turn up the gain on the amp, you're also driving the preamp harder. What's the difference?


It's very different, I'm not an amp tech person who can tell you in exact technical detail why but in lamens terms. When you turn up the preamp you're turning up the gain that the preamp is producing and then sending to the poweramp, when you use higher output pickups/tubescreamer you're increasing the ammount of input you're putting into the preamp, meaning the preamp is amplyfing/increasing the gain of an already high output.

What that means is you're using less amp gain to achieve the same ammount of actual gain (sound wise), now the higher you turn up the gain on the amp (and on pretty much any amp) the more messy things become. With a tubescreamer you can run a 6505 down at about 3 gain and have the same level of gain as you might have had on 5-7 while also now having a much tighter more responsive sound. If you're playing "djent" style music then a 6505 is just not tight enough on its own, especially if you're turning up the gain (which you probably will be).


The Invader is a bass heavy pickup but it has even more mids than bass, so it doesn't lose clarity, and the high output works well to push the front of an amp into a tighter high gain sound, using less preamp gain. Pushing the front end of an amp is a fairly standard thing in metal, and any youtube demonstration or 2 minutes spent trying it for yourself will clear up any confusion you might have on the subject.
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#7
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It's very different, I'm not an amp tech person who can tell you in exact technical detail why but in lamens terms. When you turn up the preamp you're turning up the gain that the preamp is producing and then sending to the poweramp, when you use higher output pickups/tubescreamer you're increasing the ammount of input you're putting into the preamp, meaning the preamp is amplyfing/increasing the gain of an already high output.

But why would that make a difference to your tone? Adding an extra gain stage doesn't magically make your guitar sound better. I thought a Tubescreamer changed the way your amplifier sounds by not just increasing the gain, but also by colouring your tone. And it's the tone colouration of the pedal that makes the amp sound better, not the gain itself.
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But why would that make a difference to your tone? Adding an extra gain stage doesn't magically make your guitar sound better.


Like I said you clearly don't understand the concept, I told you I can't tell you why in technical terms, it just works. I can't explain a lot of things that simply work, but that doesn't stop them from working. Don't take my word for it, I'm sure there are a million youtube videos on the subject, probably a few thousand threads on this forum concerning the subject.

Ultimately it's about achieving clarity and response, without having to turn your gain up into the sloppy mush (anything above 6-7 on a 6505 is just mush, ideally you want to be below 5, depending slightly on your preamp valves)
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#9
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Like I said you clearly don't understand the concept, I told you I can't tell you why in technical terms, it just works.

You're hardly one to slander me for not understanding how it works when you don't understand how it works either.
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You're hardly one to talk when you don't understand why it works either.


I understand that it does work, I never felt the need to find out exactly why. I don't know how a lot of things work, but I'm fully aware that they do work. The fact that you have to even ask about something so widely known in the guitar world is strange.

The concept of Tubescreamer boosting the front of the amp goes back long since before I was born, and the benefits are so highly desired and popular that a whole market revolves around slight different variations of pedal to tighten up the front end of an amp.

I don't know how or why it works, I just know it does work and that's all that really matters.
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#11
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I understand that it does work, I never felt the need to find out exactly why. I don't know how a lot of things work, but I'm fully aware that they do work. The fact that you have to even ask about something so widely known in the guitar world is strange.

Is it such a crime to ask? I don't care if the answer is widely known, I want to know why it works and how it affects the sound of the amp. And you have admitted yourself that you don't know why, so saying that it is strange to not know is kinda hypocritical.
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The concept of Tubescreamer boosting the front of the amp goes back long since before I was born, and the benefits are so highly desired and popular that a whole market revolves around slight different variations of pedal to tighten up the front end of an amp.

I don't know how or why it works, I just know it does work and that's all that really matters.

I think knowing the reason for it working does matter actually.
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Is it such a crime to ask? I don't care if the answer is widely known, I want to know why it works and how it affects the sound of the amp. And you have admitted yourself that you don't know why.

I think knowing the reason for it working does matter actually.


That is understandable, but to me my "lamens" terms explanation of how I understand it is enough, I'm not an amp tech nor do I pretend to be one, if you need to know more then that is fair enough, if just knowing "it works" is not enough then you need to ask someone who can explain it in technical terms.

Like I said, there are thousands of videos/threads relating to the subject around the internet, and I'm sure somewhere you can find your answer. Lets not forget here, you came into a thread to dispute a well known and very popular method, asking me why would it work, thus unnecessarily sending the thread off in some crazy direction because you wanted me to explain it to you in technical terms, which I said in the first post I'm unable to do.
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#13
I don't think it's so far off the mark to ask why, because an overdrive pedal like a TS9 or a TS808 delivers it's gain the same way a pickup does. And since TS was asking about pickups, i don't see my question as being a million miles away from the topic.
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I don't think it's so far off the mark to ask why, because an overdrive pedal like a TS9 or a TS808 delivers it's gain the same way a pickup does. And since TS was asking about pickups, i don't see my question as being a million miles away from the topic.


I'm just trying to clarify here that using high output pickups so that you don't have to run so much gain on the amp is better than using a medium output pickup and turning up the gain more.

Djent/Prog Metal is about high gain, but getting that tight and clean response requires pushing the front end and keeping the amp gain lower. Everyone has their favourite pickups and pretty much any humbucker can pull this off if you have a good overdrive pedal and good playing technique, with the pickup choice it's about getting in the ballpark and then finding the one that suits you best, the OP has done that and definitely not choosen what I would have picked, but still he has picked pickups that will do what he wants and do it well (maybe even without an overdrive?) so why force my preferences on him?

I don't like people who go into threads and suggest everything that they have bought, especially labeling it the "best". Talking about Mr Flibble here, who I was replying to in the post you quoted.
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#15
The difference in the gain from the gain knob and an OD/Boost comes from how the gain is applied. Turning the gain knob changes how much the preamp tube is trying to increase the voltage of the input signal by.

Where putting an OD/boost out front gives the tube a larger signal to increase the voltage of. In both cases, distortion is gained by the tube trying to increase the signal beyond what it is receiving the voltage to do.

I don't have enough knowledge to say 'why' this gives a difference in sound, but it definitely does. (personal experience and all that jazz)

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Both pickups are stupidly overwound to the point where they lose almost all clarity and really their only goal is to provide you with as much output as possible


I have no experience with the d activator, but regarding the invader this is completely untrue. I have had an invader in the bridge of my Ibanez RG for the past 3 or 4 years. I'm not crazy about the pickup due to the tonal characteristics of it (I don't like bass that big), but there is absolutely no denying the clarity of the pickup.

It has quite good definition and sounds like it quite possibly might fit what OP is going for.
#16
Alright thanks heaps guys! Im pretty confident about getting the Invaders, but could you suggest a better clean pickup for the neck? I'm having second thoughts about it!
#17
I actually like the Seymour Duncan Jazz suggestion that Mr Flibble made for the neck, it's one of the more popular pickups for the neck slot paired with pretty much anything. Depends on what you're wanting output wise, but worth taking a look.

Obviously most of the discussion has been based on the bridge pickup, what characteristics are you looking at with the neck? Are we talking vintage PAF type neck sounds like the SD 59? Or perhaps massive chunky (and perhaps slightly sterile Steve Vai esque) Dimarzio Evo sounds? Maybe the glassy almost single coil sound of the Dimarzio Humbucker From Hell?

It really depends on what characteristics you like, the Jazz would be my choice, it's a slightly scooped pickup with enough bass and a lot of treble, very clear and I suppose close to the Humbucker from Hell but with more output and a slightly more scooped sound.

If you want a little more output on your neck, and a slight more bass/mid balance in your tone (compaired to the Jazz) you could also look at the Bareknuckle Cold Sweat. The other guitarist in my band has a set of these in his Prestige RG (replacing a set of Painkillers) and I think it sounds fantastic (very clear and articulate at high gain, very responsive but honest sounding), they brand it as a popular shred pickup and I can definitely see why, it's very similar in sound response to the SD Jazz but slightly higher output.
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#18
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I have no experience with the d activator, but regarding the invader this is completely untrue. I have had an invader in the bridge of my Ibanez RG for the past 3 or 4 years. I'm not crazy about the pickup due to the tonal characteristics of it (I don't like bass that big), but there is absolutely no denying the clarity of the pickup.

It has quite good definition and sounds like it quite possibly might fit what OP is going for.
You're using an Ibanez RG. OP is using an Epiphone SG. Totally oppsoite guitars; your RG can't do mud if it tried, while the SG's biggest hurdle is maintaining clarity when output is increased.

I've put Invaders in SGs before, I know what I'm on about.


As for the whole output mess up there ^^, what it boils down to is this; when you're playing any kind of modern style with a high-gain amp like that, you're probably pushing the gain control so far that sheer output alone makes no difference to your sound. A Tube Screamer changes the sound because it also alters the tone as it boosts. It's nowhere near the same as using higher- or lower-output pickups. Once preamp gain goes past a certain point—which on a 6505 is around the 40% mark—your pickup output is just going to waste since the preamp is working so hard and everything is being distorted so much regardless. Therefore scaling back your pickup output and gaining some clarity, dynamics and sustain is a smart way to go.
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You're using an Ibanez RG. OP is using an Epiphone SG. Totally oppsoite guitars; your RG can't do mud if it tried, while the SG's biggest hurdle is maintaining clarity when output is increased.

I've put Invaders in SGs before, I know what I'm on about.


As for the whole output mess up there ^^, what it boils down to is this; when you're playing any kind of modern style with a high-gain amp like that, you're probably pushing the gain control so far that sheer output alone makes no difference to your sound. A Tube Screamer changes the sound because it also alters the tone as it boosts. It's nowhere near the same as using higher- or lower-output pickups. Once preamp gain goes past a certain point—which on a 6505 is around the 40% mark—your pickup output is just going to waste since the preamp is working so hard and everything is being distorted so much regardless. Therefore scaling back your pickup output and gaining some clarity, dynamics and sustain is a smart way to go.


I have to facepalm at you here, because you just don't seem to understand the concept of why high output pickups are used for metal, rather than a medium output.

Player wants X sound, needs X ammount of gain. Turn the amp gain up too far and it goes into mush, higher output pickups = pushes the front end harder resulting in a tighter higher gain sound with less gain. By using lower output pickups for a high gain prog/djent sound you're creating a problem for yourself that will result in less clarity, yes you gain dynamics but it is specifically overly dynamic pickups that people are moving away from when using high output pickups, or when using a tubescreamer. Why are high output pickups specifically made for people who play this high gain stuff? Why are high output pickups so desired for playing this music? Why do you think that all the Djent players flocked to use the Bareknuckle Painkiller?

I feel like faceplanting when reading your cluelessness, I'm sorry but you talk utter shite, the guy wants a high gain prog metal/djent sound, it has to be tight, responsive and aggressive.

Do I know my shit? Yes I do, I played in a melodic tech metal band (signed by Siege of Amida) from 2005-2008, playing through a Peavey 5150, I also record music at a professional level, and have experience with creating these types of sounds on record. Seeing people talking absolute bollox about stuff just makes me want to faceplant. All I see is you pushing your own preferences on the guy, who already knows what he wants.

Is the Invader right for his guitar? It could be perfect or it may not be, ultimately that is up to him to decide. But the smart thing is not to go to a lower output pickup for his needs and the SD Custom is not the best "metal" pickup. There is no such thing as "best".
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#20
Quote by MrFlibble
You're using an Ibanez RG. OP is using an Epiphone SG. Totally oppsoite guitars; your RG can't do mud if it tried, while the SG's biggest hurdle is maintaining clarity when output is increased.

I've put Invaders in SGs before, I know what I'm on about.


Fair enough. But, you had originally made a blanket statement that the Invader is a muddy pickup. Maybe you just meant that it is muddy in SG style guitars, but that's not how it came across.

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As for the whole output mess up there ^^, what it boils down to is this; when you're playing any kind of modern style with a high-gain amp like that, you're probably pushing the gain control so far that sheer output alone makes no difference to your sound. A Tube Screamer changes the sound because it also alters the tone as it boosts. It's nowhere near the same as using higher- or lower-output pickups. Once preamp gain goes past a certain point—which on a 6505 is around the 40% mark—your pickup output is just going to waste since the preamp is working so hard and everything is being distorted so much regardless. Therefore scaling back your pickup output and gaining some clarity, dynamics and sustain is a smart way to go.


By this argument, a clean boost in front of high gain should make no difference to what you hear. That is simply not true. I have a clean boost in front of my amp and it has a very big affect on the sounds you hear.
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Because not all amps are created equal. You stick a 12dB mid boost in front of a Marshall JCM2000 and you sure notice it. Go full-out Clapton and put a 24dB boost in front of a Fender tweed amp and you're going to completely revolutionising your sound. Put a 3dV boost in front of a Peavey that's already got its preamp gain pushed into the second gain stage and you're doing nothing. A Diezel doesn't care what you put in front of it, as far as the clipping is concerned.

More to the point, do you know how much of a difference in signal dB there is between, for example, a typical PAF humbucker and a modern high-output one like an Invader? About 0.8-1.2dB. That's it, that's all the difference is. In fact depending on the strings, playing style, pickup height, pots and cable, it can be even less than that. The pickups that are wound hotter still lose all the dynamic range that the cooler-wound pickup has, but the difference in output ends up, as far as your preamp is concerned, being so low as to be no difference. So you're losing clarity and gaining nothing. A Peavey that's already set to put out a metal tone isn't going to sound any more or less metal if you reduce the original signal by <1dB. Your response will change, but the degree of clipping isn't.

For reference, the minimum boost on the level control on a Tube Screamer—i.e. the very least boost you can get when going above unity level—is 1.6dB, which is almost twice the difference in output betwen an SD Alnico II Pro and an EMG 81. So if you're wondering why a boost pedal may be worth it but high output pickups aren't, there's your prime example. Even the weakest boost pedal does far more than a high-output pickup does.

The one and only time there is really an exception to this is if you use an absolutely crazy pickup design like a Motherbucker or quad-rail, which is essentially four pickups all together. Obviously then you're getting far, far more output than any standard pickup design gives you, and then you're into the realm of a 4dB boost or so over normal pickups and at that point you are going to notice more of a difference. For the record, and Invader has roughly one third of the output of a Motherbucker.
There's also the issue of pickups made with very weak coils but hugely powerful magnets, such as neodymium. Obviously these do generate more output whilst still retaining great frequency range, which makes them absolutely ideal for this kind of playing. There aren't any in common production though and even boutique winds are few and far between. It'll be interesting once they become cheaper to make and more widely available, but for now they're so rare they're not really worth factoring in; they also have the issue of easily pulling your strings out of tune if you're not careful with your set up.

Bigbazz, I'm not even bothering with you because all you do is spew utter nonsense for the sake of it in every thread. Suffice to say you appear to have bought into a lot of hype and haven't actually spent a single second thinking about why you're doing or advising the things you are. Even just the fact you'd think the Painkiller is popular for its output is utterly laughable.
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Hmm... I think we are having a problem with misunderstanding what each other are saying. Because, for the most part, I agree with everything that you just said.

I think you are downplaying the differences between pickups with different outputs, but maybe that's just the particular tone of them making it sound like there is much more clipping to my ears.

Other than that, I completely agree with what you are saying. I think we just have some miscommunication going on.
#23
i have a set of invaders in my Hello Kitty Squier and like them a lot. They are as hated as a Line 6 Spider amp on UG though. The mere mention of Invaders will get you flamed into oblivion and put on the No Fly list.
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Bigbazz, I'm not even bothering with you because all you do is spew utter nonsense for the sake of it in every thread. Suffice to say you appear to have bought into a lot of hype and haven't actually spent a single second thinking about why you're doing or advising the things you are. Even just the fact you'd think the Painkiller is popular for its output is utterly laughable.


1. I spew utter nonsense? You're the one coming in here making up nonsense about pickups (the invader), shoving your own gear down the guys throat (SD Custom, you recommend in every pickup thread).

2. I've bought into a lot of hype? What is this hype i've bought into? Stop making up things, I like Bareknuckle pickups and you're MR "I hate Bareknuckle Pickups" telling people that "scatterwound" is not for them as some sort of arguement of substance. I've used a fair few Bareknuckle pickups and consider them to be amazing, they have almost an untouchable praise of being incredible from every player I've heard who used them, yet I don't actually own any (yet). Just because you don't like them don't shove your own shite down my throat.

3. Etc about different amps, he plays a 6505, a 6505 is a 5150, I play a 5150 and I'm talking about this amp here, not Marshalls or Bogners, Peavey 6505/5150's.


4. Where did I say specifically that the Painkiller is popular for just it's output? The fact that it is a high output pickup is certaintly an important factor though.


You talk as if you understand what you're saying but it's just words, in typical internet genius fashion you don't understand or have the experience to truly understand how things work in a practical situation. I'm a professional musician, I have a degree in music technology, passed my grade 8 in guitar 10 years ago, toured in bands for the last 8 years, and most of that time I played metal through a 5150.

I'm not just an internet kid bedroom guitarist spewing nonsense trying to get every guy that opens a thread to buy the same gear you bought.
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#25
So... this topic seems to have descended into us bickering and we should probably get back on topic to help TS.

Summary of relevant stuff for TS:

From my experience, the Invader would be great for what you want. I have no experience with the d activator, but have heard (mostly) good things.
Mr. Flibble is warning that in SG style guitars, which you stated that you have in the OP, those pickups have a tendency to get quite muddy. He suggests "Seymour Duncan Custom for the bridge and a Jazz, Full Shred or DiMarzio PAF Pro for the neck".
BigBazz has also had good experience with the Invader and also suggests BKP Warpig.

TS, do you have any thoughts/questions?