#1
Holy Moly!
Incredible!


Is there a freakin' better pedal than a simple
Noise Reduction & Suppression Stomp Box???

I've got a whole new set of Fender amps and Fender Guitars!
They've NEVER sounded so good.
They make EVERYTHING else sound better.

This is just to compliment my new BOSS NS-2 Noise Suppressor Reduction Pedal

I've played my whole life with single coils Strats/Teles and
1950s/1960s Tweed/Brown/Black/Silver amps and Reverb Tanks.
Usually, I just put up with the noise.
Now that I'm messin' around with a ton of pedals, life is good.

But, my freakin' house/home/ground/circuitry causes my Fender
amps to "SCREAM" with undesired noise. Real bad.
I brought out my new baritone guitar with twin humbuckers,
and the noise went freakin' away! Immediately! What relief!

I A/B'd everything. Some pedals did reduced the noise,
but the baritone HH axe wiped it out!! All single coil issues.
Who woulda thunk?

I'm disgusted to learn that my Fender guitars and my house
and single coils and Tweed amps just do not get along.

Popped in my Boss NS-2, and all noise from all points ~ VANISHED!!!
Unbelievable! 'nuff said . . . . . .

Tomorrow, I'll pop in my Zoom MS-100BT w/ZNR Zoom Noise Reduction.
Some say ZNR is better than the Boss NS-2. Could not be happer


Big question for all experienced pedal users =
Why not have the noise reduction pedal as the first pedal
to meet my guitar cord? Makes sense to me,
but I've read many guitarists place NR's later in the chain.
Wouldn't it be better to manage the guitar noise sooner than later?

What do you think or have experienced?



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Last edited by Toppscore at May 9, 2013,
#2
Some place it before to kill hum and feedback from the guitar, whereas some place it in the loop to kill unwanted amp noise (typically from high gain heads). IIRC you can use the 4 cable method with some pedals to achieve both at the same time.
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#4
well... is this thread for real?

if so - i dont see the need for one as noise isnt really an issue for me. if i were to play live and turn up louder, perhaps it would be more aparent but my setup is fairly quiet.

if it was your guitars, did you ever check out noiseless pickups?
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#5
Quote by ikey_
well... is this thread for real?


the thread is for real, check out the other threads he has made.

Quote by Toppscore
Is there a freakin' better pedal than a simple
Noise Reduction & Suppression Stomp Box???


i don't rag on other people for using noise suppression, w/e floats your boat; but i personally feel noise suppression pedals get in the way of my playing and i really don't care for them.

so if you ask me if there is anything better than noise suppression then i'd say 'yes, there is something better: no noise suppression.

Why not have the noise reduction pedal as the first pedal
to meet my guitar cord? Makes sense to me,
but I've read many guitarists place NR's later in the chain.
Wouldn't it be better to manage the guitar noise sooner than later?

What do you think or have experienced?

it does make sense to place the gate first in the chain... it also makes sense to run it elsewhere. much like compression (or really any effect), there is no absolute right way of placing gates in you signal chain.

explaining why that is the case is not straight forward but placing the gate in the signal chain has much to do with what kinda effects you are trying to tame.
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Last edited by gumbilicious at May 9, 2013,
#6
Rather than mask noise with a pedal I prefer to remove the cause of the noise.
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#9
I put a ISP G-string decimator at the start of my FX loop & it is the best thing I've ever bought. Gets rid of my noisy pre-amp hum, that annoying pedal hiss from the delay/OD & any unwanted feedback.
#10
DUDE!

un-freaking-believable

i HAVE to go get one yesterday!
Belief is a beautiful armour but makes for the heaviest sword.
#11
I have my noise suppressor (boss NS-2) after my compressor pedal because the compressor causes noise, sometimes (depending on where it is) even get random interferance noise coming through, NS-2 fixes that.

I could plug in my guitar straight to the NS-2 but then it isn't cutting out any noise coming after my guitar before the amp, such as the compressor in this case, and possibly my overdrive pedal if needed (though that isn't necessary).

Quote by Cathbard
Rather than mask noise with a pedal I prefer to remove the cause of the noise.


Removing the pickups from his guitar certaintly would remove the noise, but I'm not sure that is quite the best solution!
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Last edited by Bigbazz at May 9, 2013,
#12
Quote by Bigbazz
Removing the pickups from his guitar certaintly would remove the noise, but I'm not sure that is quite the best solution!

he's talking along the lines of fixing a loose ground wire, or fixing up a dodgy soldering job, or replacing a particularly noisy distortion pedal. in fact you know what the best way to remove noise would be? turning off the ****ing amp.
#14
Quote by Dan_5893
I like my amp hiss. Reinforces that I'm using high gain, making sure the audience know I'm seriously br00tal shit.


One step ahead of you, I have modded my amp so it ONLY produces hiss, I play and it changes the pitch of the fizzle. TS, get real man, noisy amps are the best.
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#15
Quote by gumbilicious
the thread is for real, check out the other threads he has made.


i don't rag on other people for using noise suppression, w/e floats your boat; but i personally feel noise suppression pedals get in the way of my playing and i really don't care for them.

so if you ask me if there is anything better than noise suppression then i'd say 'yes, there is something better: no noise suppression.


it does make sense to place the gate first in the chain... it also makes sense to run it elsewhere. much like compression (or really any effect), there is no absolute right way of placing gates in you signal chain.

explaining why that is the case is not straight forward but placing the gate in the signal chain has much to do with what kinda effects you are trying to tame.



Yes. I am trying to tame the single coils on some pretty good Fender guitars.
Never had twin humbuckers until recently, and put them in the AB test.
The humbuckers amazingly did the trick, which blew me away.
But the Boss NS-2 is fantastic and really does not suck up an tone, IMHO.

The house I just bought has more disturbance for my radios and
guitar amplifiers, than I have ever seen. I have some Furman power line
managers and a power line variac autotransfromer that I will be putting
into the picture, soon. But, just sayin' the Boss NS-2 has done an incredible
job in a drastic situation.

I have lots of wireless equipment/microphones, etc, that ocassionally picks-up
radio signals at hotels . . . . so power line management is big for me.

Just sayin' . . . . check out the Boss NS-2.
It brought a whole new light on my attitude, amp tones and guitar output.
#16
Quote by Cathbard
Rather than mask noise with a pedal I prefer to remove the cause of the noise.



That would be getting rid of single coils, using solar electricty
and burning down my house
#17
Quote by AndyGray
I put a ISP G-string decimator at the start of my FX loop & it is the best thing I've ever bought. Gets rid of my noisy pre-amp hum, that annoying pedal hiss from the delay/OD & any unwanted feedback.



Thanks, Andy. Heard ISP Decimator is great.
I have the Boss NS-2 and will try the
Zoon ZNR Noise Reduction Suppresson next week.
I will get the Decimator a try.
Between these three noise suppressors, all are very good.
#18
Quote by Dempsey68
DUDE! un-freaking-believable
i HAVE to go get one yesterday!



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#19
Quote by Bigbazz
I have my noise suppressor (boss NS-2) after my compressor pedal because the compressor causes noise, sometimes (depending on where it is) even get random interferance noise coming through, NS-2 fixes that.

I could plug in my guitar straight to the NS-2 but then it isn't cutting out any noise coming after my guitar before the amp, such as the compressor in this case, and possibly my overdrive pedal if needed (though that isn't necessary).

Removing the pickups from his guitar certaintly would remove the noise, but I'm not sure that is quite the best solution!



Thanks, BigBazz.
I'm going to try putting the Boss NS-2 as the first pedal after my guitar.
Line up about eight more effects in a good order, and the have the
Zoon ZNR Noise Reduction Pedal as the last Suppression to catch
all the post NS-2 noise
Theoretically, that'll be the cleanest sounding Fender Tweed amp, ever
#20
Quote by NakedInTheRain
he's talking along the lines of fixing a loose ground wire, or fixing up a dodgy soldering job, or replacing a particularly noisy distortion pedal. in fact you know what the best way to remove noise would be? turning off the ****ing amp.



+1 ~ and go watch Iron Man III
#21
Quote by Dan_5893
I like my amp hiss. Reinforces that I'm using high gain, making sure the audience know I'm seriously br00tal shit.



How do you tell the difference between "amp hissing" and "audience hissing"


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#22
Quote by dementiacaptain
One step ahead of you, I have modded my amp so it ONLY produces hiss, I play and it changes the pitch of the fizzle. TS, get real man, noisy amps are the best.



Can you modify your amp so it has a
Polyphonic Octave-Up Hiss and an Octave-Down Hiss
. . . . . and maybe a rotary soul vibe 1970's Disco Hiss???
#23
8 ****ing posts in a row? you know you can reply to multiple people in a single post right?

What is the point of this thread anyways? A big circlejerk around noise supressors? Just ****ing try the pedal in a few places in your chain and pick what you like best.

This is ****ing dumb

Edit: can mods just ****ing close this thread already?
Last edited by &baconstrips at May 9, 2013,
#25
I've got my head stuck in a cupboard and my brain hurts.
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#26
no one knows what this thread is about....

Toppscore seems to lack imagination.

This thread makes me
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#28
We all know what it's time for.



Let the catting begin.
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Telecasters
Randall RM100 & RM20
Marshall JTM45 clone
Marshall JCM900 4102 (modded)
Marshall 18W clone
Fender 5F1 Champ clone
Atomic Amplifire
Marshall 1960A
Boss GT-100


Cathbard Amplification
My band