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#82
Quote by SteveHOC

Danny - remember how I had that Daredevil? I had to part with it; that "neck dive" common with SG's was a huge issue with it. It played great and sounded awesome, but since I'm getting back into gigging soon, I just couldn't deal with it. I'll still do a review though once I have some time.


Steve, you're the closest to a Daredevil expert as we have in here.

As you may have read, I'm considering purchasing a Daredevil for a little mod work- pickups, at the very least- to be done by a pro. I don't gig, and I'm not to concerned about neck dive. What is your 2¢?
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#85
I wish the seller had a good picture of the damage...I am sorely tempted.
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#86
I bid on that eBay Rev- mynfirst eBay auction, ever- and won!

But I screwed up: I can't pay the way the seller wants (PayPal takes its sweet time getting your account fully up to speed). I suggested he use eBay's Second Chance policy to offer it to the other bidders, but he's still talking to me. If he isn't too listed off, I may be able to send him a Certified Check or money order to pay for it.

In the meantime...they literally do not make them like this anymore: a goldtop Manta!

http://www.guitarsandeffects.com/2013a13a06reverendgoldtop/reverendgoldtop
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#89
Found a nifty, must-see site for any Reverend Guitar fan: http://www.revfan.com/index.html
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#90
Ugh, I'm torn. I either want to get a Sensei RT or a jetstream 290. Can't decide between the Revtrons or the p90s. I have a guitar with humbuckers (lp) and a denelectro with lipsticks, so I want something different. What do you guys think?
#91
Well...p90s and RevTrons are both different from the usual fare, so I guess that's a dead heat!

In all honesty, I have my Flatroc with the RevTrons and love it. I've got nothing in my collection with P90s, but that will be changing- I have a custom being built with a bridge HB and a P90 in the neck, and will be changing my Dean EVO to a similar configuration. I'm also looking at a Fret-King Super 60 SP, which is a Strat-style guitar with a P90 in the bridge.

To my ears, a mini-humbucker- especially one voiced like the RevTrons- can sound more like a clean singlecoil than most other HBs...while a P90 can get closer to that ballsy HB sound than other singlecoils.

In your shoes...I'd probably go with the Sensei. And that's ONLY because I like the visual aesthetics of that guitar more than the Jetstream.
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#92
Thanks Danny for the tips! Yea, I was tihkning the Retrons then, because I already have the balls with my dean Evo (Isn't that a sweet guitar, btw? I have the Special, it's a lefty in the tigers eye- absolutely gorgeous) and I have played the Sensei before, I just like how the Revtrons breakup, and I use a lot of effects too.
#93
HA! My EVO is a Select with the tigers-eye quilt, too!

Considering that it is a budget guitar, it has never ceased to amaze me how well made it is. For all the crap Dean takes on these boards- some of it quite deserved- my EVO's only flaw seems to be the muddiness of its pickups. I have guitars that cost 40% more that do not hold tune as well as it does.
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#94
And- not trying to decide anything FOR you- there's another good reason to go for the RevTrons: Reverend doesn't seem to sell them separately anymore.

Sure, there are other miniHBs out there, but I don't know how they compare to the RevTrons.

...which is one reason I've been looking online at some of the used Reverends of late. One sure way to find RTs is on old Reverend guitars!
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#95
Really? They've stopped making them?? :/ Yea, I've decided, a a Sensei it is. And I do agree with the Evo's pickups, they are a wee bit muddy. You mentioned your slapping a p90 in it as well as a new humbucker?
#96
No, they still MAKE RevTrons, but they used to sell them seperaely and no longer do. Which means that you can't get them to put in other guitars anymore.
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#97
Quote by voncameron
I do agree with the Evo's pickups, they are a wee bit muddy. You mentioned your slapping a p90 in it as well as a new humbucker?


Yep.

Originally- inspired by the Reverend Double Agent- I was going to go with a Bareknuckle Nailbomb HB for thebridge and a Bareknuckle Stockholm HB-Sized P90 for the neck. Then I thought:

"That's just what they're EXPECTING me to do!"

So I thought about it some more. Based on some more veteran players' suggestions, instead of going for cleaner, better pickups that just beef up the EVO, I decided to take the guitar in a different direction.

I eventually decided on getting a Vintage Vibes HB & HBS-P90- haven't decided precisely which- after hearing some demos featuring a LP-style guitar and some of the cleanest P90 tones I have ever heard. Beefy, yes, but still crystal clean. Jazz clean. So my EVO is going to enter tone zones very atypical for that brand!
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Aug 24, 2013,
#98
I hate to go against the trons, but p90s are something wicked (in a good way). I think it really depends on what you are after. The p90s in the manta ray I had were surprisingly hot, not like heavy metal hot, but they sounded great. Of course that is a subjective description, but I did use them often to play some foo fighters. That's just my $.02, and I must admit I haven't played the revtrons enough to be an expert.
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#99
I like the P90 sound, but I personally just had to go for that Flatroc- and its RevTrons- first. As pointed out, I WILL be getting some P90 tones in my near future.
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#100
Quote by voncameron
Ugh, I'm torn. I either want to get a Sensei RT or a jetstream 290. Can't decide between the Revtrons or the p90s. I have a guitar with humbuckers (lp) and a denelectro with lipsticks, so I want something different. What do you guys think?

Such a tough call.

I had some p90s in a cheap Modern Player, and I ended up trading it for a MIK Epi SG. The SG is a fine guitar, but damn I miss those p90s like hell.

I don't really know much about the tonal qualities of revtrons and mini-humbuckers. Maybe someone could tell me what they're like? Do they have kind of a sharp, tinny sound? I would expect they might be good for funk? I dunno.

P90s are amazing, even cheap p90s on cheap guitars. So my first instinct is to say "P90s forever!"
#101
Quote by samuraigoomba

I don't really know much about the tonal qualities of revtrons and mini-humbuckers. Maybe someone could tell me what they're like? Do they have kind of a sharp, tinny sound? I would expect they might be good for funk? I dunno.


The guy doing this review does a very good job of taking you though a variety of tonal options.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcV_eFd199c&sns=em

And I just found these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=727ifWAF8s0&sns=em

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZwvF-8AmxQ&sns=em
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Last edited by dannyalcatraz at Aug 25, 2013,
#102
I have noticed that Reverend seems to put out a few unusual finishes for some of their guitars tht they mention on their website...but others that are extremely rare and don't show up there...at last, not for long!

Some seem to be unique to one retailer, even. Wildwood guitars, for instance, has had several finishes that were either unique to their store or they got it first. By months. For example, they have the Rick Vito sig in rose meallic and the Pete Anderson sig in gold metal flake- you don't see those on Rev's site or anywhere else.
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#104
That does look like a good deal.
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#105
Yeah, the used Reverend market honestly isn't much better than the new market. A new Reverend runs 700-800 bucks, but for that price I can get exactly what I want with all the features I want (like revtrons/p90s, a double-cutaway and a set neck). A used reverend is usually around $650, or sometimes I see a $900 guitar marked down to $800 used. Not really worth it.

The exception is the Daredevil guitars, which I frequently see for around $300-400.
#106
You gotta look harder, man!

While $100 off seems to be pretty standard, I've posted links for several Revs under $650. Heck, I seriously considering a pair for @$1100 right now.
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#107
Here's a nice used Ron Asheton sig Volcano for just $499 + shipping!

http://reverb.com/item/23572-reverend-ron-asheton-black-w-reverend-hardshell-case?utm_medium=GPLA&utm_source=SEM&gclid=CLrawYHNrrkCFZBaMgodZUgAjw

A black V with 3 P90s...hmmMMMMMmmm!
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#108
What is this?











Yep, It's a Reverend...but you probably already knew that!

Near as I can tell, this is the only visible problem with it- a ding about the length of a guitar pick (highlighted in blue):



In addition, the knobs seem to sit a little low on the body- they rub juuuust a little- but that's nothing.

Paid: $356.77 + $49.00 Shipping for a Reverend Roundhouse and a Guitar Research gig bag.
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#109
Damn, that's a killer deal.

So, HNGD! Tell us all about it. Weight, neck feel, pickups, etc.

I've got my eye on a Roundhouse RT, it's currently the front-runner in about a dozen guitars I'm considering. Shame I couldn't find anything in honey burst, that's a great color.
#110
First of all, its not as deep as a Gibson LP- my Fernandes Ravelle is 1/4" thicker- and coupled with the Korina body, means it doesn't feel like a huge slab of wood. But make no mistake, you will still feel its respectable heft.

Then there's that Reverend feel: the neck is essentially indistinguishable from the me on my Flatroc, so once I got it tuned up, it was like I was hanging out with a buddy. Comfy. Flawless.

Like I said, the knobs sit just a little too low, so there is a barely perceptible rubbing when you fiddle with them. However, that is minor, minor, minor. I'm not much for twiddling with my knobs once I get them where I want them. Besides, they'll eventually stop rubbing on there own...

Between the bass contour and the tone control, I can get anything from a full, deep rumble to a twang reminiscent of some singlecoils.

Controls aside, the pickups have a classic HB sound. They're not the kind of pickups you shout about as being epically good, but they sure as hell do the job. I'll probably leave them stock, but if I don't, I'll probably go no further than some RailHammers, and "keep it in the family," as it were.

The blemish on the upper curve of the lower part of the body is visible, but it doesn't bug me...at least, not yet, it looks like it caught a corner of a table or some such, but you can't see it while playing.
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#111
Quote by samuraigoomba

I've got my eye on a Roundhouse RT, it's currently the front-runner in about a dozen guitars I'm considering. Shame I couldn't find anything in honey burst, that's a great color.

Is it that silver sparkle one on Reverb for $499 + shipping?

I have been eyeing that one, too. If you get it instead of me, I'll cheer for you!
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#112
Quote by dannyalcatraz
Is it that silver sparkle one on Reverb for $499 + shipping?

I have been eyeing that one, too. If you get it instead of me, I'll cheer for you!

Yeah, we'll see. I'm thinking I'll either get that or a Peavey Reactor around the end of the month. I might get the cheaper guitar so I can upgrade my amp situation. If you have the cash to get it, go for it man. I'll cheer for you, too.

My first Reverend is definitely going to have RevTron pickups, I've decided.
#113


I till haven't gotten my CC bill statement so I can get the code to fully activate my PayPal account, so I'm operating at a handicap.

The RevTrons are definitely fun, so I can agree with that as being a criterion for your purchase.


The Peavey Reactor...that's their Tele model, isn't it?

EDIT: the guitar I linked to was sold.
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#114
Lets try again...

The Reverend Buckshot is a Tele-style guitar with a T-style bridge pickup and RevTrons. The one I linked to above had been sold, but I found:

http://for-sale.yakaz.com/reverend-buckshot-guitar#lo=4&docid=000fe3q2kg2btffi

http://for-sale.yakaz.com/reverend-buckshot-guitar#lo=4&docid=000bfa4erg7197bm

http://us.yakaz.com/posts/00013kakoesmjn0g

http://for-sale.yakaz.com/reverend-buckshot-guitar#lo=4&docid=000eh4p41m0l83ia

http://for-sale.yakaz.com/reverend-buckshot-guitar#lo=4&docid=00029jfvbijb6rru


(No, I'm not trying to steer you away from My Little Sparklepony-Axe, why do you ask? )
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#115
Yeah, I've been looking at the Buckshot. I really like the sounds it puts out, but honestly I'm not sure how I feel about that body. The single coil in the bridge is a big plus though, since I've been trying to scratch that tele itch.

http://for-sale.yakaz.com/reverend-buckshot-guitar#lo=4&docid=00029jfvbijb6rru

Okay, if the guy can ship, this one is looking like the "Reverend to beat" for me. Damn Danny, you really are the pro at finding reverends, I couldn't find any Buckshots under $600.

The three main models I've been looking at are the Roundhouse RT, Sensei RT and Buckshot. I wish the Buckshot came in better colors, the blue is the only one that really grabs me.
#116
Quote by dannyalcatraz
What is this?











Yep, It's a Reverend...but you probably already knew that!

Near as I can tell, this is the only visible problem with it- a ding about the length of a guitar pick (highlighted in blue):



In addition, the knobs seem to sit a little low on the body- they rub juuuust a little- but that's nothing.

Paid: $356.77 + $49.00 Shipping for a Reverend Roundhouse and a Guitar Research gig bag.


very nice
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#117
Quote by samuraigoomba
Yeah, I've been looking at the Buckshot. I really like the sounds it puts out, but honestly I'm not sure how I feel about that body.


Well, it seems to be essentially the same as the Flatroc body, and I have to say hat mine is very comfy. Unlike a lot of Teles or even my Roundhouse, my Flatroc has a nice little belly-carve to it. And my Flatroc actually has better upper fret access than the Roundhouse. Not by much, but it is noticeable.

The single coil in the bridge is a big plus though, since I've been trying to scratch that tele itch.


It occurs to me that I only have one guitar with a singlecoil in the bridge, and that's a hollowbody. Even the Tele-style guitar I'm having made is going to have a HB in the bridge and a P90 in the neck.

So I guess NOW I'm wondering what all the fuss over T-style bridge singlecoils is?

http://for-sale.yakaz.com/reverend-buckshot-guitar#lo=4&docid=00029jfvbijb6rru

Okay, if the guy can ship, this one is looking like the "Reverend to beat" for me. Damn Danny, you really are the pro at finding reverends, I couldn't find any Buckshots under $600.




That's my Mom's influence- she's kinda "the queen of shopping", and she's taught me a lot about bargain hunting. I've watched that woman walk out of stores getting 90% off or more for certain goods. In fact, in once case, she had so many valid coupons for something, the store technically owed her money for taking the product! They couldn't get the register to do that, so the manager just charged her a penny for the lot. My great-uncle Marcus- a notorious penny-pincher who picked up his frugality in the Great Depression- was present...and deeply impressed. It was the main topic of dinner that night!

The three main models I've been looking at are the Roundhouse RT, Sensei RT and Buckshot. I wish the Buckshot came in better colors, the blue is the only one that really grabs me.


Yeah, the cream & tortoise is classic, but it doesn't sing to me like that blue does. I know why, though. In my case, that cream/tortoise combo just screams "C&W" to me- not my favorite genre- and the blue to me speaks more of classic rock and especially surf/spy guitar, which I love.

If Reverend has one flaw that bugs me, its the availability of finishes. They do have some FANTASTIC ones, but others are just...average. I know they can't all be winners, but I'd like Revs more if each model had both mainstream and ultra-cool finishes. I mean, I think the Sensei RA has some OK finishes, but nothinglike the RT model.

And that Kingbolt RA models? The only one I can stand is the flamed maple in blue...
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#118
Reverend definitely has some great and some mediocre finishes. Some of them are just... So bland. We need more like that Tricky Gomez red finish! The Kingbolts and Six Guns look so boring with their drab finishes. I don't know what it is with Reverend and Gretsch, both companies seem to have a surprising amount of "plain" finishes to offset their other, amazing designs.

Great to hear about the Buckshot body style having a tummy cut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sLaT6VDWoE
Go to the bridge pickup section. I like the tele single coil bridge pickup sound because of how it sounds for rock and blues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDkOaMfDBJM
^I might just have to get a Peavey Reactor and grab something with revtrons or p90s from Reverend at a later date.
#119
Quote by samuraigoomba

Great to hear about the Buckshot body style having a tummy cut.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sLaT6VDWoE
Go to the bridge pickup section. I like the tele single coil bridge pickup sound because of how it sounds for rock and blues.


On ProGuitarShop's whole page for the Buckshot, they have pictures of the Buckshot from all angles.

On some of them, you an see the belly carve- on that cream finish, you can just barely see it, but it IS there.

http://proguitarshop.com/reverend-buckshot-cream.html

You can see it better on their page for the Charger.

http://proguitarshop.com/reverend-charger-291.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDkOaMfDBJM
^I might just have to get a Peavey Reactor and grab something with revtrons or p90s from Reverend at a later date.


I was going to refer you back to that Ron Asheton- the 3x P90 V?- I mentioned upthread, but it just sold.

Besides, with guitars, you have to shop with your EARS as much as with your eyes!
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#120
Not quite as good a deal as some others...

This Buckshot is not only significantly discounted, it is in a pretty uncommon (discontinued?) color.
http://www.bananasmusic.com/productdetail.asp/pid_18205/productname_Reverend-Buckshot-Electric-Guitar

A Sensei RT with some nice sparkle sparkle, buddy!
http://www.elderly.com/vintage/names/reverend-sensei-rt-%282010%29--30U-18252.htm
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