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#1
Hey UG,
I'm getting new pickups tomorrow and my local music shop has DiMarzio X2N's which I'm planning to get. I'm having mixed thoughts from all the reviews I've been reading so wanted to get your opinions.
I play a lot of death/thrash metal in the general vein of Opeth,Cynic,Death,Gojira etc. If that helps.
#3
It gets some bad rap but I love them and the way they sound fits older extreme metal perfectly, stuff like death that is. They get muddy easily so keep them away from strings. They are also bit overkill on super high gain amps like 6505 and so on. They shine better on more classic high gain amps.

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#4
Damn,was hoping noone would ask that.. Well I'm stuck with a MG100Dfx right now but I'm saving funds for a H&K Attax 100 half stack.
Cool,I play with very high action so that should be fine.
#5
Quote by enda345
Damn,was hoping noone would ask that.. Well I'm stuck with a MG100Dfx right...


rabble rabble mg sucks rabble rabble you need a new amp not pickups herpderp

There.

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#6
I know Well within 8 weeks I should have this new amp Need something to keep myself entertained in the meantime.
#7
It's not the action what's important, is the distance between the pickups and the strings. Even with high action if X2N's are very close to the strings you'll only get mud.

It's cool you're buying new pickups and your gonna do whatever you like with your money but seriously in a crappy amp you'll not hear a big difference, for example I'm playing Dimarzio's through an Orange Crush 30 and really dislike the tone. I left my Blackstar HT 40 and Fender Blues Deluxe at my parents house because they're too loud for my dorm. I'm seriously thinking on getting an HT-1 or a Micro Terror soon.
#8
I know what you mean but right now the strings are very far from the pickups,so I doubt that the 'muddy' sound will be present.
I always play acoustically( thanks to my MG) and when I play live I borrow a friend of a friends fender frontman,which I think is pretty good after some messing around with the eq. The pickups are just to encourage me to save..If you catch my drift
#9
well X2N is a very loud pickup, with that in mind you should think about if that amp you gonna get is right for you. ATTAX is a very high gain amp just putting that out there.
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#10
It's also pretty cheap and meant to be very good,which is my main reason to get it.
Any ideas on good affordable heads and cabs?
#11
Quote by enda345
It's also pretty cheap and meant to be very good,which is my main reason to get it.
Any ideas on good affordable heads and cabs?



Well, I wouldnt call it "very good". Its very specialised pickup. It is very good at what its aimed for. Ridiculously hot leaving EMGs behind, excellent for creating big wall of distorted sound and I love that shit. But clean it is not. My experience with pickups is still limited but I'd propably pick a different pickup for super clean industrial/chugcore playing for example.

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#12
Quote by enda345
It's also pretty cheap and meant to be very good,which is my main reason to get it.
Any ideas on good affordable heads and cabs?


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#13
The X2N is made only for giving the most output possible, which is pointless with a solid state amp; they don't get driven and clip in the same way that valve amps do.

Save your money and get the amp sooner. Money you waste on pickups is a delay to how quickly you can afford that amp. Pickup swaps are for tweaking the response and dynamics you get once you have the core of your tone how you like it. It's still your amp that dictates your tone the most, by far, with your guitar's construction coming in a distant second. Pickups are way down the line of things which dictate your tone, other than in terms of very broad and vague strokes like humbucker/singe coil, active/passive, etc.
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#14
MrFlibble is kind of an eminence on these forums, you should listen to him.

You'll not notice a big change through the frontman either, but it's your money do as you want. If you waited for the amp instead you could hear and explore your tone with it, define wether it's lacking anything or you just would like different characteristics from the guitar. If so then you could start looking for pickup replacements.

If still insisting on the pickups I'd consider first the D-Activators, you could get more versatility from them. If you dig the looks of the X2N's and that's what you want check the D-Activator-X's. The following is from DiMarzio's website:

#15
I actually liked the X2N more than the D-ActivatorX. But anyways, if you do get the X2N later then you could try throwing a push/pull pot in there to switch between parallel & series mode for it. It's very useful that way & lowering the pickup height helps as well to reduce the output if it's too much.

Either ways, buy a new amp first then go about changing the pickups.
#16
Alright,thanks for all the replies everyone. I think you're all right about saving for a new amp first and getting the pickups later so that's what I'll do Once again,thanks for the advice!
#17
So all you guys are saying that I shouldnt be able to tell a difference between my BKP,emgs,rockfields and Dimarzios on cheap amps????

YOU GUYS ARE ALL F U C K I N STUPID.

I can hear a difference, and so can anybody who plays them.....at least the people I know. A pickup is the signal in to the amp, an amp amplifies this signal. All pickups sound different think of them as an EQ before the amp, along with output. That's kind of like saying a boost pedal or distortion in front of a ss amp wont make a difference.....which btw is something you guys advise
a lot. Your Marshall while not being a super amp is ok. You will be able to tell a difference between pups on that amp. And the fender.
The real question should be
1. What pick up do you have now?
2. What is that pickup not giving you.
3. Then start picking what pups are more geared to what you want over you present pup.
4.The x2n should fit what you want, it just depends what you have now
What the hell!!!
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#18
Quote by danvwman
So all you guys are saying that I shouldnt be able to tell a difference between my BKP,emgs,rockfields and Dimarzios on cheap amps????

YOU GUYS ARE ALL F U C K I N STUPID.

I can hear a difference, and so can anybody who plays them.....at least the people I know. A pickup is the signal in to the amp, an amp amplifies this signal. All pickups sound different think of them as an EQ before the amp, along with output. That's kind of like saying a boost pedal or distortion in front of a ss amp wont make a difference.....which btw is something you guys advise
a lot. Your Marshall while not being a super amp is ok. You will be able to tell a difference between pups on that amp. And the fender.
The real question should be
1. What pick up do you have now?
2. What is that pickup not giving you.
3. Then start picking what pups are more geared to what you want over you present pup.
4.The x2n should fit what you want, it just depends what you have now



You are a dumbass. Of coarse they will sound different. Why push off buying an amp that will get him 98% of the sound he wants ? It's better to save for a quality amp rather than waste it on pups.
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#19
Quote by danvwman
So all you guys are saying that I shouldnt be able to tell a difference between my BKP,emgs,rockfields and Dimarzios on cheap amps????

YOU GUYS ARE ALL F U C K I N STUPID.

I can hear a difference, and so can anybody who plays them.....at least the people I know. A pickup is the signal in to the amp, an amp amplifies this signal. All pickups sound different think of them as an EQ before the amp, along with output. That's kind of like saying a boost pedal or distortion in front of a ss amp wont make a difference.....which btw is something you guys advise
a lot. Your Marshall while not being a super amp is ok. You will be able to tell a difference between pups on that amp. And the fender.
The real question should be
1. What pick up do you have now?
2. What is that pickup not giving you.
3. Then start picking what pups are more geared to what you want over you present pup.
4.The x2n should fit what you want, it just depends what you have now


Dude literally the only time I see you post is to fight the evil "UG regulars." i

Just calm your tits.
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#20
With my limited experience with the X2N, I felt that it made a horrible pair with itself. I'd use 1 in the bridge with something more versatile in the neck. And if you feel like certain amps just don't work with your style, the X2N will increase the number of amps that don't sound quite right.

That being said, the X2N is incredible in the right setup. I got a great tone with the X2N in the bridge of my friends Fat Strat through my Splawn Quickrod and Framus Cobra. I didn't really like it as much with my Roadking. I felt it was an extremely bright and cutting pickup with an aggressive low end.

Personally, I feel the X2N works better in lightweight wood guitars through english flavored amps. I like the wood/amp/pickup combination for my midrange. I realize this setup and tone is definitely not for everyone, it's just how I liked it.

If it came down to it, I'd probably buy the Crunch Lab, Evolution, or D-Activators before the X2N. But the X2N certainly isn't a bad pickup.
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#21
Quote by danvwman
So all you guys are saying that I shouldnt be able to tell a difference between my BKP,emgs,rockfields and Dimarzios on cheap amps????

YOU GUYS ARE ALL F U C K I N STUPID.

I can hear a difference, and so can anybody who plays them.....at least the people I know. A pickup is the signal in to the amp, an amp amplifies this signal. All pickups sound different think of them as an EQ before the amp, along with output. That's kind of like saying a boost pedal or distortion in front of a ss amp wont make a difference.....which btw is something you guys advise
a lot. Your Marshall while not being a super amp is ok. You will be able to tell a difference between pups on that amp. And the fender.
The real question should be
1. What pick up do you have now?
2. What is that pickup not giving you.
3. Then start picking what pups are more geared to what you want over you present pup.
4.The x2n should fit what you want, it just depends what you have now

It's not about being able to hear the difference through your amp. It's about the amp not giving him the sound he wants. Pickup upgrade is for minor tweaking in sound. You need to have a good "base tone" first. If the base tone is crap, no pickup upgrade is going to make it that much better.

And when you buy a new amp, you might notice that you don't need a pickup upgrade. Wasting money on pickups now is going to delay the amp purchase and you might even prefer your old pickups to the new ones through your new amp. So after you have bought a new amp if you still aren't completely satisfied with your tone and know what you are after, then a pickup upgrade is reasonable.

And really this:
Quote by MrFlibble
The X2N is made only for giving the most output possible, which is pointless with a solid state amp; they don't get driven and clip in the same way that valve amps do.

Save your money and get the amp sooner. Money you waste on pickups is a delay to how quickly you can afford that amp. Pickup swaps are for tweaking the response and dynamics you get once you have the core of your tone how you like it. It's still your amp that dictates your tone the most, by far, with your guitar's construction coming in a distant second. Pickups are way down the line of things which dictate your tone, other than in terms of very broad and vague strokes like humbucker/singe coil, active/passive, etc.
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#22
Well if you go in order of the signal chain, the pickup is the FIRST thing that determines your sound. Isnt it.

Yes , I do challenge the UG "regulars", its the reason I am here. And if you do a search either people like me and my advice or they don't like me challenging or bringing up another alternative to what they advise. I don't try to "pick" fights I just want to throw another opinion on the topic at hand. The "regulars" don't seem to like this. If its the only time you see me posting....too bad for you.

A few weeks ago a few of us called BS on Mr. Flibble on some stupid crap he speews......he disappeared for a few weeks it seems and is now back.

With that said, The T.S. amp is totally fine if you cant get a decent/usable tone with that amp spending more on a better amp wont help much. If you have a small practice amp the pups don't do a whole lot but the Marshall at hand has enough headroom to work good. Good is the key word here. Telling everyone who wants to try different pups to get a new amp EVERY TIME IS BS! Period. We really need to know what PUPs the T.S. has now before anybody can throw any advice out. This goes for ANY pickup.
What the hell!!!
#23
Quote by danvwman
Well if you go in order of the signal chain, the pickup is the FIRST thing that determines your sound. Isnt it.

Yes , I do challenge the UG "regulars", its the reason I am here. And if you do a search either people like me and my advice or they don't like me challenging or bringing up another alternative to what they advise. I don't try to "pick" fights I just want to throw another opinion on the topic at hand. The "regulars" don't seem to like this. If its the only time you see me posting....too bad for you.

A few weeks ago a few of us called BS on Mr. Flibble on some stupid crap he speews......he disappeared for a few weeks it seems and is now back.

With that said, The T.S. amp is totally fine if you cant get a decent/usable tone with that amp spending more on a better amp wont help much. If you have a small practice amp the pups don't do a whole lot but the Marshall at hand has enough headroom to work good. Good is the key word here. Telling everyone who wants to try different pups to get a new amp EVERY TIME IS BS! Period. We really need to know what PUPs the T.S. has now before anybody can throw any advice out. This goes for ANY pickup.



The point wasn't him getting a useable tone though, the poit was getting a good tone. Sure, at low volumes and with the right settings an MG can sound...... passable, but if you want to improve your tone by the greatest measure, the amp has got to go before pickups.

I wouldn't have mentioned your posting habits if it weren't for the fact that you pretty much NEVER post in GG&A except to "stick it to the man" ( in this case, those evil regulars). Yes, we get it, not everyone always wants a new amp, but when someone wants to vastly improve their tone, then getting a better amp is the quickest and most effective way.

Had TS came in and said that he was totally fine with his tone take a few minor issues that need tweaking, then pickups would be a good idea, but the TS said he was going to replace the amp. Recommending a pickup to someone who is planning on upgrading their amp is pointless, we don't know what their new amp will be and if it will sound good with what we recommended.

Once again, calm your tits.
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#24
I just find it odd that nobody asked him what pups / guitar he has. Don't you? They just jump on the get a new amp bs.
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#25
Quote by danvwman
I just find it odd that nobody asked him what pups / guitar he has. Don't you? They just jump on the get a new amp bs.



He was already going to get one dude. He came out and said that within the first few posts. Regardless of what pickups he has now, when he gets a better amp he may find he doesn't need another pair. I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think that the TS needs to upgrade his pickups based on what he wants out of his sound with the MG. he may find when he does upgrade that he doesn't want a high output pickup at all.
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#26
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He was already going to get one dude. He came out and said that within the first few posts. Regardless of what pickups he has now, when he gets a better amp he may find he doesn't need another pair. I understand where you are coming from, but I don't think that the TS needs to upgrade his pickups based on what he wants out of his sound with the MG. he may find when he does upgrade that he doesn't want a high output pickup at all.

This. It's just waste of money. What if the new amp sounds great with the pickups TS already has in his guitar? That's why you should first have a good amp and see if your guitar with stock pickups sounds good through it. Only after that, if the tone is still lacking, you should replace your pickups. If you find that your tone is lacking, most of the time it's the fault of your amp, especially if it's a cheap practice amp.

If TS had a good amp, people would have recommended him new pickups.

If you want to improve your tone, amp is what makes the biggest difference. For example you can't play metal on a Fender Twin Reverb, no matter what pickups you use. But you can play metal on a Dual Rectifier, no matter what pickups you use. A new amp isn't going to give you a Strat tone or Les Paul tone of course. But TS was going to upgrade his humbuckers with humbuckers. The tone won't change that much. It's more like fine tuning your sound. And there's no point in fine tuning your sound when your tone isn't decent already.
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#27
Quote by MaggaraMarine



If you want to improve your tone, amp is what makes the biggest difference. For example you can't play metal on a Fender Twin Reverb, no matter what pickups you use. But you can play metal on a Dual Rectifier, no matter what pickups you use.


This is where you are wrong, I used a 65 bandmaster for hard rock/metal/trash. Worked fine. Sounded better than a peavey XXX thru the same cab.

We need to know what pups he has now, if they are cheap ass Boohungs or some other crap, a pickup upgrade WILL help for sure. A set of 10-11 ohm underwound humbuckers
is gonna sound like crap thru any amp.

So when he saves his money to get a new amp and it still sounds bad with crap pups, what are you guys gonna say then?????
What the hell!!!
#28
We will tell him to get new pickups, but I refuse to believe that any pickup will make an MG sound great. As far as the Bandmaster comment, it may work for you, but I severely doubt that that is what most people would consider the ideal metal rig
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#29
Quote by danvwman
This is where you are wrong, I used a 65 bandmaster for hard rock/metal/trash. Worked fine. Sounded better than a peavey XXX thru the same cab.

We need to know what pups he has now, if they are cheap ass Boohungs or some other crap, a pickup upgrade WILL help for sure. A set of 10-11 ohm underwound humbuckers
is gonna sound like crap thru any amp.

So when he saves his money to get a new amp and it still sounds bad with crap pups, what are you guys gonna say then?????

I meant amps without any pedals.

I'm assuming that TS's guitar isn't completely crap (because if it was, upgrading the pickups would make no sense because of the bad build quality). So let's see if he likes his tone through his new amp. If it still lacks something, it's time to upgrade the pickups.

But really, don't you agree with the other points I made? That TS should first wait for his new amp and then see if he likes the tone or not? And that upgrading a decent humbucker with a good humbucker will not sound that different. It's just fine tuning your sound. I mean, there's a difference but it isn't so big.
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#30
No, it felt really silly using it but it worked very well. People we like whoa wtf is that. It just got damn old and was cheaper to move on to new stuff since I got $400 for it in half ass condition.
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#31
LOL my super distortion is in a 80s Epiphone by Gibson made by samik. It made that guitar sweet. I picked that guitar up for $60.

My Special Bich was a pile of crap until I changed out the BSDMs. I picked that guitar up for $25
You could say these two guitars are not good build quality.
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#32
The only 2 times a pickup replacement didn't do what I want was in replacing Duncan designed HB102. These pickups a ridicoulsly good for being cheap stock pups. One got changed out for a sh6.....hate it. Maybe I got a bunk one. Was not much of a difference from the hb102.
Second was in my C1elite, again hb102 set. I replaced them with a vintage Ibanez H1/H2 set. After doing the install I found more info about them. They are both a hotter vintage alnicoV pup. And yes they sound almost identical. So not that the V1/V2 set sucks they just sound the same, didn't get where I wanted to go.

And if you look at my amps, I have no stellar rigs at all. But I can for sure tell a major difference between my pickups. And that's my whole point.

His Marshall should be able to get a good tone.....maybe not tube snob tone but it should work fine
What the hell!!!
#33
Quote by danvwman
Well if you go in order of the signal chain, the pickup is the FIRST thing that determines your sound. Isnt it.
No, the strings and the way they vibrate—which is mostly influenced by your picking, the scale length, action, nut and bridge—are the first thing. Then the pickups and the construction of the guitar happen at the same time, they're the same thing (unelss you have a magic guitar where the pickups are suspended in a self-contained independent gravity field).

Pickups respond. They do not vibrate themselves, they do not create. Wood vibrates and creates tone. Strings vibrate and create tone. Pickups pick up on what everything else is doing and send it along to your amp. Changing pickups changes the response you get, not the overall tone, unless you're comparing really drastic extremes like a single coil against a humbucker, or passive against active.

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Quote by danvwman

His Marshall should be able to get a good tone.....maybe not tube snob tone but it should work fine
If you'd bother to read properly, I (and several others) did not actually specify OP would not get a 'good' tone. We've said that a pickup swap will not radically change the tone they have in the direction they want. The word 'good' was not used.

Also, even if someone was a fan of the sound of Marshall MG series amps, OP put forth "death/thrash metal in the general vein of Opeth,Cynic,Death,Gojira etc", which is something the MG series is not built for or particularly capable of. A Diezel Herbert is a damn fine amp, but you wouldn't use one for country.

And before you carry on with the "tube snob" nonsense, know that I use a solid state amp myself as my main rig. Sold many good valve amps in favour of keeping this. Contrary to your apparent belief, not everybody is out to push some sort of gear agenda.
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#34
Quote by danvwman


His Marshall should be able to get a good tone.....maybe not tube snob tone but it should work fine


No. It shouldn't. That amp was not designed with stellar tone in mind. It doesn't sound good. With enough poking and prodding it can get by, but they can't cut through, they are naggingly thin, the distortion is too much and not enough all at once, and the EQ is spotty and unhelpful.

I am all for cheap amps, and I really like solid state amps, as a matter of fact my next amp will probably be a VH140 or a Marshall Lead MOSFET, but that doesn't mean that a shitty amp isn't a shitty amp. This isn't about tube snobbery, this is about the MG series as a whole sucking a fat nasty turd.
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#35
Listen to any of the recent Kreator albums (last 3) - Sami uses X2N in his Ibanez and it is pretty much the tone you'd get. I had mine in a Flying V Kramer and was getting exactly the Kreator tone through my Marshall JCM900.
#36
^ An MG ain't a JCM900.
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#37
No. It shouldn't. That amp was not designed with stellar tone in mind. It doesn't sound good. With enough poking and prodding it can get by, but they can't cut through, they are naggingly thin, the distortion is too much and not enough all at once, and the EQ is spotty and unhelpful.

You've got it all there. I've messed around with the EQ so much but still the distortion is just terrible,I can get a really nice clean sound but that's about it. I've been looking at a Fender Mustang V Head and cab and it seems like a dream come true with it's ridiculous price and great sound(judging by several videos). Anyone have any experience with the Mustang series?
#38
I have played the mustang a couple times, nice amp. Not my first choice for metal but definitely an okay amp. It still is what I would consider an oversized practice amp, but it definitely sounds better than the MG.

If you want, take a look at the format for making a "what amp?" thread in the Rule and Resource Center thread and make a new thread. Usually you can at least head in the right direction and know your best options that way, even if you don't decide exactly what amp you want from the thread.
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#39
Quote by enda345
too much and not enough all at once, and the EQ is spotty and unhelpful.

You've got it all there. I've messed around with the EQ so much but still the distortion is just terrible,I can get a really nice clean sound but that's about it. I've been looking at a Fender Mustang V Head and cab and it seems like a dream come true with it's ridiculous price and great sound(judging by several videos). Anyone have any experience with the Mustang series?



If you are considering modeling amps for metal, take a look at Peavey Vypyr serie. The 6505 and JSX/XXX models (both very popular metal amps) will keep you happy for long time. Head versions are not very common, but combos have a good reputation for a reason.

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#40
Quote by danvwman
With that said, The T.S. amp is totally fine if you cant get a decent/usable tone with that amp spending more on a better amp wont help much. If you have a small practice amp the pups don't do a whole lot but the Marshall at hand has enough headroom to work good. Good is the key word here. Telling everyone who wants to try different pups to get a new amp EVERY TIME IS BS! Period. We really need to know what PUPs the T.S. has now before anybody can throw any advice out. This goes for ANY pickup.


Let me ask you a question.... When you listen to a guitar tone how do you categorize it? Do you think to yourself "That sounds like a guy playing a Marshall, a Mesa, a Fender..." Or do you think "That sounds like a guy playing a guitar equipped with Dimarzios/SDs/Whatever?" I'd willing to bet it's the former. The furthest anyone would ever take it is that sounds like a guy playing Humbuckers/Single Coils through a Marshall.

That alone should tell you where the majority of sound is coming from. Pickup swaps are for when you're 90% happy with the sound you have but are looking to fine tune what you've already got.

On the X2N..... I may be in the minority here but I've always thought it was one of the most vapid sterile harsh and utterly pointless pickups ever made. When the X2N was first released the description on Dimarzios page basically said something along the lines of: This pickup was made as a joke... We wanted to see how much output we could get out of a passive pickup so we made this... It sounds terrible....

They changed the description once they realized people were actually buying them.
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