#1
Researching speakers.

I'm more or less set on what I want, but I'd also like external input based on what I play.

I'm mainly looking at WGS. Their prices are right, and MIA. I'd go Celestion only because they are so abundantly common and show up used often.

My style is basically modern death metal. Think The Black Dahlia Murder, Bloodbath. Clarity is important to me, because I also dabble a little bit in prog, with some large chords and what not.

My initial plan is WGS Veteran 30s and Reaper HPs in an X pattern, or with the Veterans on top and the Reapers on the bottom.

I'm now thinking HM75s might be a better mix with the Veteran 30s though?

It might be easier/cheaper to acquire used Celestion V30s/G12T75s though. Is anyone familiar with this mix?

I'm all about low mids and huge palm mutes. I hate harsh high ends, flabby bass, duck quack mids, and shrillness/thinness. Currently using a 6505, which is one of, if not my favorite amp, so I'm looking for a setup that just emphasizes what that amp is all about naturally.

I don't want to spend more than $70 on a speaker, used is very appealing to me. WGS are just hard to find used.
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#2
I have Vet 30 and a swamp thang in my 2x12 and used it with your exact amp.

Loved it. V30's of any flavor are great with the 6505/5150.
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#3
I personally dislike T-75s and a mate of mine bought a Bogner cab with the V30/T75 X pattern and he hated it, replaced the T-75s with another 2 V30's to fix his problem and all was well. Though T-75s are everywhere (including in my Marshall cab) not a lot of people seem to like them that much, so I couldn't advise you to buy them, scoopped sounding speakers with a massive bottom and a fizzy top.

V30's all day anyday but steer clear of the T-75.
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#4
vintage 30 and classic lead. I'm guessing the WGS versions would work too, but i haven't tried them.

the v30/g12k100 is also supposed to be good for that type of tone, but i haven't tried that combo. But out of what I have tried, the v30/cl80 combo is best for what you want (assuming you want to stick with british-sounding speakers).
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#5
I've never really read about the Classic Leads being recommended for anything. I'm down to try them though.

I thought a lot of people liked the V30/T75 combo. Hm.

Shame WGS doesn't make a K100. I read it's pretty monstrous.

What about the G12H30?
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#6
Well shit. Just accidentally won a pair of Reaper HPs (which are high power versions of the G12H30). The one time I DON'T get outbid on eBay....
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#7
Quote by Offworld92
I've never really read about the Classic Leads being recommended for anything. I'm down to try them though.

I thought a lot of people liked the V30/T75 combo. Hm.

Shame WGS doesn't make a K100. I read it's pretty monstrous.

What about the G12H30?

I do! It's in my Bogner cab and it goes very well with the Twin Jet and VH4. It smoothens the rawness of the QuickRod (EL34) if you want a change from the Splawn's Small Blocks or V30 412s. Hmmm. It makes the QR sound like a ProMod (KT88) through V30s.

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the v30/g12k100 is also supposed to be good for that type of tone, but i haven't tried that combo. ...

More authoritative low Mids! If you want it a bit tighter, V30 and Swamp Thangs.

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Well shit. Just accidentally won a pair of Reaper HPs (which are high power versions of the G12H30). The one time I DON'T get outbid on eBay....

D'oh!

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#8
Quote by Bigbazz
I personally dislike T-75s and a mate of mine bought a Bogner cab with the V30/T75 X pattern and he hated it, replaced the T-75s with another 2 V30's to fix his problem and all was well. Though T-75s are everywhere (including in my Marshall cab) not a lot of people seem to like them that much, so I couldn't advise you to buy them, scoopped sounding speakers with a massive bottom and a fizzy top.

V30's all day anyday but steer clear of the T-75.

Depends how you run them. A big Marshall into a wall of T75's sounds great for down and dirty pub rock. They're just not a metal speaker. In the right setting (and enough of them) they are good working man's speaker.

They're not for Offworld though. What did you score the Reapers for?
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#9
A lot of people say the Swamp Thangs are considered the best if you're looking for clarity. I'd say pair one with a Veteran 30 and you should be good to go.
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Depends how you run them. A big Marshall into a wall of T75's sounds great for down and dirty pub rock. They're just not a metal speaker. In the right setting (and enough of them) they are good working man's speaker.

They're not for Offworld though. What did you score the Reapers for?


$135 shipped. I won't be able to make a profit on them.

I'm assuming it'll be fine as long as I run a pair of Vet 30s with them.
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I reckon they'd sound good in my top box. Shame you're on the other side of the world or I'd take them off you.
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#12
Quote by Offworld92
I've never really read about the Classic Leads being recommended for anything. I'm down to try them though.

I thought a lot of people liked the V30/T75 combo. Hm.

What about the G12H30?


the v30/g12t75 is a nice combo, but you said

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I'm all about low mids and huge palm mutes. I hate harsh high ends, flabby bass, duck quack mids, and shrillness/thinness.


which, aside from the duck quack mids, pretty much describes the g12t75 to a tee. Granted, the v30 balances a lot of that out, but I still reckon the v30/CL80 combo would be way better for what you want.

i don't think the g12h30 is what you want, i reckon the classic lead would be better. The CL is (a bit) like a more modern-sounding g12h30.

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Well shit. Just accidentally won a pair of Reaper HPs (which are high power versions of the G12H30). The one time I DON'T get outbid on eBay....




you might as well try them, you may well like them.

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More authoritative low Mids! If you want it a bit tighter, V30 and Swamp Thangs.




never actually got as far as trying the swamp thang with a v30...
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I'll have to put the Classic T models on my to-try list. Shame the finish options there are Anachronism Gold, Nuclear Waste and Aged Clown, because in principle the plaintop is right up my alley.

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