#1
I want to get an ac15 or if necessary a ac30 because i love the clean and classic rock tones, but i also play a lot of metallica and ozzy and maiden etc... Can you get a metallica tone from an ac15 or an ac30? I'm willing to get some pedals to go with the amp. Thanks
#2
No. But you can get a good distortion pedal.

Maybe a Wampler Pinnacle or SLOstortion.
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#3
^or a Plextortion. I think it does classic metal the best out of Wampler's range.
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#5
That's what the Pinnacle was made to do, but when I tried it I thought it was too fizzy. The Plextortion was much smoother and pleasing.
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#6
Quote by ac29metal
what about a van halen brown sound? can you get that out of it?


With some tweaking, lots of volume, and the right pedal, you could probably pull that off. There just isn't a sharp and tight enough of a tone for anything much heavier. High gain on a Vox AC15/30 has a tendency to take on a spongy tone with a looser bass. I'd definitely use a distortion pedal rather the natural Vox amp overdrive for heavy stuff.
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Quote by ac29metal
what about a van halen brown sound? can you get that out of it?


Short answer: no. ACs are not metal amps.
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#10
If you bring an army of pedals then you can get any sound you want from it, but to do so you'd have to leave the EQ pretty flat, which may not be what you want for the clean sound. You'd also find yourself tap dancing on pedals constantly.

Even for classic rock, you usually boost an AC[15/30]. For Van Halen, you're looking at either stacking boosts (lots of noise) or replacing amp distortion entirely with one type of distortion pedal (HardWire Valve Distortion would be my pick for easy-to-get production units). For metal you'd then use another distortion (HardWire Metal Distortion or Blackstar HT-DISTX are your best shots). You'd probably want to run an EQ in the loop to control the sound further, or run the amp into an extension cab and use a different cab for each sound.

Personally, I wouldn't bother. I'd either pick up an all-rounder like the Line 6 DT or Blackstar amps or I'd go for a higher gain amp and use an EQ to tailor the clean tone.
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#12
It's not going to happen. The AC15/30 both do what they're supposed to do very well, but they don't have the reserves of gain you're going to need, they'll sound too thin.

You're better off getting either something that can do both things reasonably, or going specialised.
#13
I have to say, unless you're using a lot of pedals, the AC15/AC30 is a bad idea. Some kinds of alternative rock like Jimmy Eat World or Thrice can sound good, but those aren't bands with very gainy tones (Thrice uses a Marshall to add more oomph during live performances of the old stuff so it's not all cranked and boosted AC30s). Consider something else...
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#14
What would work as an amp if I wanted to use pedals to sculpt my sound instead of just the amp? Opinions? Thanks for the awesome feedback btw
#16
Fender Blues Junior, Hot Rod Deluxe, Hot Rod Deville, Deluxe Reverb, Twin Reverb, Super Reverb... Peavey Classic series could work too, but some sort of Fender-esque platform as a "clean base" is what distortion pedals work best on.

I do that myself with a Hot Rod Deluxe, paired with a Wampler Triple Wreck. Luckily I found what I wanted in the Triple Wreck, but you might find that amp distortion is the sound you're looking for, a tone that pedals can't really emulate perfectly (even if they get darn close.) But the versatility and the sound quality of a tube amp in a room (compared to say, a versatile DSP unit) is a huge plus. And if you try out a bunch of distortions, you'll probably find one you like.
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#17
Quote by CodeMonk
I can get some Iron Maiden and Ozzy sounds with my AC30.
Can also do Sabbath, and a few others.

This helps though :

That's impressive.
#19
have you considered one of the EVH 5150's? the 50w head is $999 and a 212 combo $1500 i think. so pretty close to the price of the ac30 and this amp is made to do EVERYTHING and will have more gain than you'll ever need but also some pretty nice cleans

rob chappers on youtube does a great demo of it
#21
I also want my amp to be under 50w. i need a practice amp that can also do small gigs. i also looked at the marshall dsl40c, but i didn't like the clean tone.
#22
Quote by CodeMonk
I can get some Iron Maiden and Ozzy sounds with my AC30.
Can also do Sabbath, and a few others.

This helps though :

Wtf? Hahaha nice
#23
The AC isn't cut out for that kind of stuff...unless you want to invest in a whole lot of other gear, but I think that kind of defeats the point. Those clean are very beautiful though - partly the reason I got mine. With an OD in front it can be pushed quite a bit, but nothing near metal territory. It's better to get an amp for an overall sound that you want rather than something so specific (like the cleans)...unless you can afford it. When I think of Maiden, Metallica and Ozzy I think of Marshall...particularly a JCM800 comes to mind, but I think a DSL, TSL and/or JVM will pull off that kind of stuff.
#24
What about the small Mesa? 5:25 or 5:50 Express should cover that.

Look into the Egnater Tweaker range as well.

I think you can pull off some rad metal tones with the AC15, with the right overdrive in front but that's just me.