AvengedReno
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Anybody know of any guitars that are good for divebombs and still stay in tune?
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Anything with a vibrato other than Bigsbys, really. Hendrix sure never had a problem with a 6-screw Strat bridge and Jeff Beck does dives all day long with his 2-point Strats.

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KRAMER guitars with floyd rose usually have veeeery sensitive tremolo, you can hear the difference even with a slight touch. That means you can perform really deep divebombs and bend your tremolo straight to hell. +they stay in tune aswell.
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KRAMER guitars with floyd rose usually have veeeery sensitive tremolo, you can hear the difference even with a slight touch. That means you can perform really deep divebombs and bend your tremolo straight to hell. +they stay in tune aswell.


just in case i am missing something, what makes that kramer trem so great? if you think its anything its probably set up.

i have a khaler which IIRC is on a kramer i never say the logo but it matches. i haven't ever assembled it. i just saw a decent looking guitar with a khaler and a bill lawrence pickup for $40 at a pawn shop.

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i have had luck with the bridges on my prestige ibbys (i cann't ever remember which is which).

i have had a few licensed floyds only own one now though. it is bulletproof and is on a peavey wolfgang

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IMO set up makes more of a difference as well as the knife edges.
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That's right but I think not all trems can be just "set up". It depends on the hardware, too... For example in this case if you want to perform deep divebombs and at the same time stay in tune, I don't think it's something just "set up" could do. Of course, you can make it better but I think it's more the hardware. My opinion.
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One of these!!! Hendrix never had a problem with his 6screw vintage trem, other than the fact that he was hilariously out of tune every time he used it.
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Anything with a good quality floyd rose that is set up properly.

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Floyds>Kahlers regarding tuning stability.
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I love my Caparison for divebombs. It can sound super brutal! Especially since I got a BKP C-Pig in the bridge!

Yeah Floyd Rose, Kahler and Edge tremolos are what you should be looking for
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Any good trem will do. The guitar it's on makes exactly zero difference.
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Tuning stability can be effected by many factors. However, any solidly built guitar with a double-locking FR is going to be your best bet. Several options on the market depending on your budget. If you want specific recommendations be more specific in your requirements. There's a thread form for that.
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^ well not just any floyd. Some licensed ones are total dog poo. If you want some of the best tuning stability and responsiveness available then a proper Schaller made Floyd Rose Original is what you want. The being made by Schaller is important there as there exists some Floyd Rose Originals that are made in Korea; these are NOT the same. They have minor differences that add up to a big difference in response of the unit.
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OFRs are amazing at that stuff. The one guitar I had with an OFR could take divebombs like a pro, and still not even get a cent out of tune.
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^ Exactly! Plus you can do all manner of other tricks with them too, like fluttering or really nice little dips as you're working your way around the fretboard. I have a schaller made OFR on two of my guitars and wouldn't trade them for anything!
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^ Exactly! Plus you can do all manner of other tricks with them too, like fluttering or really nice little dips as you're working your way around the fretboard. I have a schaller made OFR on two of my guitars and wouldn't trade them for anything!

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How about one of these?





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Quote by T00DEEPBLUE
ftfy

Floyds>Kahlers regarding tuning stability.


I've got both (and have for maybe 25 years) and haven't really had problems with tuning stability with either.

One comment about Kahlers -- they're available again, with new saddle materials, 7 and 8 string versions. You can trade in your old Pro for a newer "hybrid" version that can be locked down to act like a hard tail, then unlocked to operate in trem mode.

I'm not too particular about the guitar attached to the Floyd -- I've currently got four LP-type guitars with Floyds (one is a 24-fret guitar), some superstrats and a pair of star-shaped guitars (one with a Floyd, one with a Kahler).
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Well; Herman Li of Dragonforce has made a career out of whammy bar insanity, so one can reasonably conclude that whatever he uses is a first-rate guitar for gut-wrenching tremolo dive bombs. He uses a signature version of the Ibanez "S" series guitar, so that is where I would start my search. Ibanez makes a fine Herman Li signature model (the EGEN 18), but the tremolo unit is the standard Ibanez "Edge Zero " locking tremolo, so you get the same thing on some of the non-signature "S" series models.

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/u_eg_page13.php?data_id=33&color=CL01&year=2013&cat_id=1&series_id=162

http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/u_eg_series13.php?series_id=150&year=2013&cat_id=1

I would certainly take a look at those offerings from Ibanez. They certainly work for Mr. Li, and his abuse of the tremolo borders on the legendary.
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