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Using a Low B (or A) and high A on either side of a regular tuning of 6 string?- BEADGBEA

I'm sure someone's done this or knows of it being done. You see, I'm tempted to buy an extended range instrument, just for fun really. Not looking to try and replicate anyone or do any stupid chugging.

I've played an 8-string and understand the difference in feel from the neck's wideness. I've also played a 7 string but feel I could utilise the way a 7 string works in an 8 string, and would only want to get 8 afterwards, should I continue with the extended range. I already own a 5-string bass, and started out of a 4-string knowing I'd probably get a 5 in the future. So I'm sorta comfortable to the feeling of getting used to a thicker neck and could do it with a guitar.

The complications with it are mainly getting a string that won't snap reaching the high A. If that does perceive to be the 90% problem, I could always try A-G tuning. A whole step below the tuning said above. I'd have to use an .008 on a short scale to get that high. I already use 9-46 for standard tuning on a 25.5" and go as thick as 10-52 on a 24.75" for standard though I don't like soloing in that.

Are there any 8-strings that feature a short scale? Most I've seen are 26.5" minimum. That would not work for what I want. At all.

Sorry if this has been discussed before, I can't recall ever seeing it and I've never heard of anyone doing what I'm suggesting doing.
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I've never done it personally but I've heard of it being done with 26.5" scale guitars though the high A has quite a lot of tension at that scale. ESP makes some 25.5" scale 8 strings that would probably be nice for what you want. Otherwise, you could get maybe one of the shorter scaled fanned fret Agiles and that would be great for it I'm sure.
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Ooh, I didn't know ESP made 25.5 8 strings, I'll look into that! Fanned fret was something I thought about too, but I thought it's gonna way too expensive. Living in the UK, Agile not an option, from what I've heard about their QC, I'm not risking a haul of one oversea.
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Chris Letchford of Scale The Summit has used an 8-string tuned to BEADGbeF# or BEADGbeg
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Quote by Soccerguy
Chris Letchford of Scale The Summit has used an 8-string tuned to BEADGbeF# or BEADGbeg


Came here to say this.
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I knew there'd be someone who's done it. I guess he probably tried going to an A with that and found it just would not work. For how light of a touch I like to use, this seems impossible.

Does anyone know of an 8 string in 24.75" scale? I know this is probably just not done at all but I can hope haha.
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To add to Chris Letchford, I think Rusty Cooley (however you spell it?) tuned an 8 string BEADGBea too, I think his fanned-fret signature came stock to that tuning for a while too.
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I wouldn't touch an 8 string at a 24.75" scale, let-alone a 7 string at that scale. If you wanna do BEADGbea or BEADGbeg tuning, I would take a look at the fanned fret Agile guitars if you are in the US, or if they have them in stock still.

Two possibilities: http://www.rondomusic.com/pendpro82728ebcabk.html

and http://www.rondomusic.com/product5478.html

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Quote by AWACS
I wouldn't touch an 8 string at a 24.75" scale, let-alone a 7 string at that scale. If you wanna do BEADGbea or BEADGbeg tuning, I would take a look at the fanned fret Agile guitars if you are in the US, or if they have them in stock still.

Two possibilities: http://www.rondomusic.com/pendpro82728ebcabk.html

and http://www.rondomusic.com/product5478.html



Not really a good option for people in the UK, once you pay import duty and take in to account that they don't do any returns from outside the US they're probably not worth the money or risk.

TS, it's possible to tune to BEADGBEG with a 25.5" scale, try getting strings from here: http://octave4plus.com/ I've heard nothing but good things about them.
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Quote by Zaphod_Beeblebr
Not really a good option for people in the UK, once you pay import duty and take in to account that they don't do any returns from outside the US they're probably not worth the money or risk.

TS, it's possible to tune to BEADGBEG with a 25.5" scale, try getting strings from here: http://octave4plus.com/ I've heard nothing but good things about them.


I apologize. Didn't look at TS' location. Derp.
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24.75" would work for me, I don't use ridiculously thick strings and would see myself using a 62 gauge for the Low B. I use a 10-52 for Eb currently on a 24.75" and find that's just a little too thick for the high strings. I've seen that Octave4plus website before. I'd be tempted to try a 7 but can't justify buying an 8-string just to find the 7 is too small to even play.

With regards to the BEADGbeg tuning, I'm not sure how I could utilise that high G. That note is obviously do-able as 12 strings need it. No doubt about that. I'd see it as almost relearning the guitar, as I find with Open tunings haha. Even though I have a lot of fun with them. Acoustic guitar and a slide tuned to Open major tunings like D sound great. Real easy to write songs with that pedal chord going on.

I think with this information my plan is to save up, get the 8-string and experiment with it with regards to string gauges. I'll look towards 25.5" as that's just what I prefer. Thanks so much guys! If in the future I become successful with this crazy idea, I'll be sure to post about it
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#12
Quote by Lavatain
Are there any 8-strings that feature a short scale? Most I've seen are 26.5" minimum. That would not work for what I want. At all.

The problem with a short scale 8-string is that you couldn't really do low tunings...

Even with special strings, it would slag out very easily.
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