#1
Hey UG, do any of you guys have some good POD farm tones to share? Post 'em here. Also, discuss your view of POD Farm.
#2
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Also, discuss your view of POD Farm.


POD Farm is a terrible waste of money as 9/10 times, you can get better results out of the many free amp sims available on the market. Why spend $100+ on something when you can get better results for free?
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#3
A terrible waste of money? :S

I use it and think it sounds great. The only downside is that I can't automate the effects inside Reason yet. Hopefully that'll change soon enough as I really can't be bothered with any other recording software such as Reaper etc. I try them but laziness and force of habit usually means I'll close the program before really figuring anything out lol.
#4
I used POD Farm 1 for a couple of years (before I got a PODxt recently) with the added Metal Shop pack and it was pretty good. I managed to get a better sound out of it than I did with any VST plugin. A lot of people said to try the POD amp sims with VST cabs but I couldnt use the VST version of POD Farm with my device for some reason.
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POD Farm is a terrible waste of money as 9/10 times, you can get better results out of the many free amp sims available on the market. Why spend $100+ on something when you can get better results for free?



Agreed, high gain tones are awfully fizzy without a crap tonne of post processing, it's so easy to spot a podfarm tone 9 times out 10. Half the cab sims are awful too.

So many better options out there.

I thought it was great before I heard what other sims were capable of.
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#6
What kind of tone are you after, TS?

Usually I find that less is more in Pod Farm, a lot of the amp's seem to sit very nicely in mixes without too much tampering. Generally speaking, I high and low pass filter them, and usually find myself removing some stuff around 2.5-3kHz, and I cut quite a tight dip at around 5.3kHz to remove some fizz on certain sounds.

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POD Farm is a terrible waste of money as 9/10 times, you can get better results out of the many free amp sims available on the market. Why spend $100+ on something when you can get better results for free?


No. I know it's cool to complain about Line 6 at every given opportunity, but Pod Farm has it's place and serves it's purpose very well, especially if you can mix half decently. I'm not saying it's the best, but it's more than good enough and does the job.

Good use of an EQ plugin can really bring the sound to life and fix a lot of the typical amp sim complaints (fizzy, thin, etc) but that's the same for all amp sims, not just Pod Farm. I've yet to come across any combination of amp sim and IR that is an instant 'plug and play' for a great tone that sits perfectly in a mix without need for additional EQ - Maybe that might happen on a very high end equivalent that's had years of R&D and millions spent refining the simulations, but with cheaper/free alternatives, that kind of a thing just doesn't happen - especially with the modern high gain sounds that a lot of people want from simulators.

There are a few features that I think the program needs to improve or add, such as the ability to load external IR's or even just loading VST effects as a part of the chain, but to say it's a 'terrible waste of money' is just ridiculous.
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No. I know it's cool to complain about Line 6 at every given opportunity, but Pod Farm has it's place and serves it's purpose very well, especially if you can mix half decently. I'm not saying it's the best, but it's more than good enough and does the job.


You missed the main point was, that it's a waste of money, not because it's awful, but because it's not as good as amp sims that are free... so what's the point of it?

Also did you just imply that Lockwolf can't mix?


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#8
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What kind of tone are you after, TS?

Usually I find that less is more in Pod Farm, a lot of the amp's seem to sit very nicely in mixes without too much tampering. Generally speaking, I high and low pass filter them, and usually find myself removing some stuff around 2.5-3kHz, and I cut quite a tight dip at around 5.3kHz to remove some fizz on certain sounds.


No. I know it's cool to complain about Line 6 at every given opportunity, but Pod Farm has it's place and serves it's purpose very well, especially if you can mix half decently. I'm not saying it's the best, but it's more than good enough and does the job.

Good use of an EQ plugin can really bring the sound to life and fix a lot of the typical amp sim complaints (fizzy, thin, etc) but that's the same for all amp sims, not just Pod Farm. I've yet to come across any combination of amp sim and IR that is an instant 'plug and play' for a great tone that sits perfectly in a mix without need for additional EQ - Maybe that might happen on a very high end equivalent that's had years of R&D and millions spent refining the simulations, but with cheaper/free alternatives, that kind of a thing just doesn't happen - especially with the modern high gain sounds that a lot of people want from simulators.

There are a few features that I think the program needs to improve or add, such as the ability to load external IR's or even just loading VST effects as a part of the chain, but to say it's a 'terrible waste of money' is just ridiculous.


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#10
POD farm is shite .. i got terrible tones with it .. use Guitar Rig
#11
I love POD Farm. Been using Line 6 since 2004 and can't seem to get into the rest of the sims as much as I have with Line 6.

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#12
I haven't touched my copy of POD Farm Platinum since TSE X50 came out. It can work if that's the tone you're going for, but I find it to be a lot more work than it needs to be to get a usable tone out of it and this us coming from someone who used it exclusively for several years.
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#13
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What kind of tone are you after, TS?

Usually I find that less is more in Pod Farm, a lot of the amp's seem to sit very nicely in mixes without too much tampering. Generally speaking, I high and low pass filter them, and usually find myself removing some stuff around 2.5-3kHz, and I cut quite a tight dip at around 5.3kHz to remove some fizz on certain sounds.

No. I know it's cool to complain about Line 6 at every given opportunity, but Pod Farm has it's place and serves it's purpose very well, especially if you can mix half decently. I'm not saying it's the best, but it's more than good enough and does the job.

Good use of an EQ plugin can really bring the sound to life and fix a lot of the typical amp sim complaints (fizzy, thin, etc) but that's the same for all amp sims, not just Pod Farm. I've yet to come across any combination of amp sim and IR that is an instant 'plug and play' for a great tone that sits perfectly in a mix without need for additional EQ - Maybe that might happen on a very high end equivalent that's had years of R&D and millions spent refining the simulations, but with cheaper/free alternatives, that kind of a thing just doesn't happen - especially with the modern high gain sounds that a lot of people want from simulators.

There are a few features that I think the program needs to improve or add, such as the ability to load external IR's or even just loading VST effects as a part of the chain, but to say it's a 'terrible waste of money' is just ridiculous.


+1

I have afew amp sim's and all have the positive and negatives,
my negative on Pod farm is it crashes Protools alot if I have too many Pod plugin instances.

but I still very much use it, twin 5150 chains are cool with alittle EQ after the plugin.

But Tone is the color of an artist sound ? ... Sorry it's pretty arrogance to post such Negative things, He posted he uses Line 6, NOT wanting an alternate to line 6. ??

what's next ? anyone playing a Samick guitar has bad tone, Because you can get a Fender cheaper ?

Tone is a Very personal thing I dislike the Black Keys tone as well as Jack White's tone, it hurts my ears But I like there music and there writing better music and making more then me SO what value does my opinion have on there tone... -ZERO.

your opinion on tone is as worth less then Jason Bieber's & he's a successfully musician !
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#14
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your opinion on tone is worth less then Jason Bieber's And he's a successfully musician !

He asked for our opinions of it, we're just sharing our general distaste of it.

I think it has it's place, and if you already have it then you may as well use it. I would never recommend it though, with the amount of debate there is about whether it's better or worse than the free sims then we can almost certainly say they're comparable. And if someone were to ever ask me what they should get I'm going to think 'I have two approximately equal options, except one costs money and the other is free'. Unless I know for certain that one will suit their needs better than the others, I will recommend the free ones.
Another way to look at it is would you rather have to buy a program to use it, or download the same program for free (legally) and then make a donation if you want too?

TS if you want presets maybe try the Joey Sturgis forum over at Ultimate Metal, he apparently uses it (which, by the way, proves that it's obviously a valid option for an amp sim).
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Of course remembering that the general consensus on Sturgis' production is that it sound as fake as a porn stars tits.

I think most people need to remember that the negative comments aren't saying that Podfarm is BAD, like globally and completely awful.

It's just that there are better options and a good chunk of them are free.

And T4D... you were doing so well about not having weird explosive rants about things no one ever claimed for the last couple of weeks, please don't ruin it now.
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You missed the main point was, that it's a waste of money, not because it's awful, but because it's not as good as amp sims that are free... so what's the point of it?



Hardly, although that would depend entirely on your situation. If you have a good interface already, then yes I would totally agree that there are free/cheaper alternatives - not necessarily any better or worse, only cheaper.

I still wouldn't call it a waste though. I think the basic Pod Farm has about 25 guitar and bass amplifiers and 25-ish cabs, as well as several effects, etc. To keep the numbers simple (although not remotely accurate to real prices) let's assume I could buy each amp for £100, each cab for £50, and I'll ignore the effects as I have no idea how many are in the basic package. That's £3500, and with real prices for each model that the simulators are based on, it would easily be tens of thousands. I think that makes the £115 or so I spent on Pod Farm and a few expansion packs look pretty good. I know it's nothing like as simple as 'I can emulate however many amplifiers and it's better because in real life they would cost however much', but it's just one way that you could look at it. Obviously the simulations are quite different to the counter parts, but what you sacrifice with sound you get back in convenience.

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Also did you just imply that Lockwolf can't mix?

ohlol.


Having not heard any of Lockwolf's stuff, that's something I would judge. For what it's worth, I'll take what you seem to be implying in that he/she is good though.

Anyway, that wasn't what I was saying. What I'm saying is that a little knowledge goes a long way in improving any amp sim's sound. Even a crappy simulator can usually be made to sound decent if the mixing is done well. When it comes to free amp sims, there are just as many that are great as there are those that I avoid like the plague.
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Hey UG, do any of you guys have some good POD farm tones to share? Post 'em here. Also, discuss your view of POD Farm.


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Agreed, high gain tones are awfully fizzy without a crap tonne of post processing, it's so easy to spot a podfarm tone 9 times out 10. Half the cab sims are awful too.

So many better options out there.

I thought it was great before I heard what other sims were capable of.



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And T4D... you were doing so well about not having weird explosive rants about things no one ever claimed for the last couple of weeks, please don't ruin it now.


I'm the problem in this thread ?
#18
None of which I am disputing.

But there are still better options out there than PodFarm... which is the point I'm making. Most of which are of comparable cost or cheaper.
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Having not heard any of Lockwolf's stuff, that's something I would judge. For what it's worth, I'll take what you seem to be implying in that he/she is good though.


Its a he :p

I still wouldn't call it a waste though. I think the basic Pod Farm has about 25 guitar and bass amplifiers and 25-ish cabs, as well as several effects, etc. To keep the numbers simple (although not remotely accurate to real prices) let's assume I could buy each amp for £100, each cab for £50, and I'll ignore the effects as I have no idea how many are in the basic package. That's £3500, and with real prices for each model that the simulators are based on, it would easily be tens of thousands. I think that makes the £115 or so I spent on Pod Farm and a few expansion packs look pretty good. I know it's nothing like as simple as 'I can emulate however many amplifiers and it's better because in real life they would cost however much', but it's just one way that you could look at it. Obviously the simulations are quite different to the counter parts, but what you sacrifice with sound you get back in convenience.


As convenient as 23 amps (18 Guitar, 5 Bass) is for $100 or whatever it goes for nowadays (I paid $300 for Pod Farm Platinum back when it first came out), I'd say in most home studio settings, the average person will use 2 or 3 of those amps (especially around here since it seems like most people record metal which typically is recorded on high gain amps) and maybe some of the effects. Its not that this is a bad thing but when there are free alternatives of the same 2 or 3 amps you're going to use that sound just as good, what are you going to go with?

Even then, if your talking cost versus number of amps, HeadCase has everyone beat with a $60 price tag & an endless supply of amps made by the community. There used to be a few sites dedicated to making sims with several hundred amp sims on it but the site owner went crazy & shut it down.

Anyway, that wasn't what I was saying. What I'm saying is that a little knowledge goes a long way in improving any amp sim's sound. Even a crappy simulator can usually be made to sound decent if the mixing is done well.


I will agree there. Pod Farm can be made to sound good but it takes more work than its worth IMO. I've found that its a lot easier to get a good signal from a free sim like LePou's since I don't have to tweak it as much as PF to get it sounding good. Then again, I don't use LePous since I invested $250 into BX RockRack. Its only 9 amps but its probably the best model I've used.
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#20
I got Podfarm free with my interface
Despite the general hatred for it, I don't actually mind it
You can get some good tones out of it with a little tweaking here and there

Generally I've gotten more useable tones running pod farm and recording it than I have through DI-ing my guitar and slapping a plugin on top of it
I recently did a '45' cover for my uni course, used pod farm for the whole of it and got some pretty close tones to the actual song which I was proud of...
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I'm the problem in this thread ?


No? Where did you get that from? But you went off complaining about a bunch of stuff that no on had claimed, it's not about cost in isolation, but cost in relation to quality. I know you can be a good member of the community, because you have proved in the past that you can.

But your post was just pretty ranty and wasn't actually directly relevant to anything anyone had said... just chill out okay? The dude asked for opinions, he got opinions.

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Generally I've gotten more useable tones running pod farm and recording it than I have through DI-ing my guitar and slapping a plugin on top of it


But... that's what PodFarm is... even if you use it in Stand Alone mode it's still the same deal...
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But you went off complaining about a bunch of stuff that no on had claimed, it's not about cost in isolation, but cost in relation to quality.


This is your second reply to my last post ?

I'm confused are you talking about this thread or past history?

because I say it's was very arrogance to make this type of statement

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Agreed, high gain tones are awfully fizzy without a crap tonne of post processing, it's so easy to spot a podfarm tone 9 times out 10. Half the cab sims are awful too.

So many better options out there.

I thought it was great before I heard what other sims were capable of.


When
He did not ask to change tools he's happy with pod farm, just like his guitar, pick-ups, effects & amp.

& no one asked for your opinion on what "good guitar tone" is. Why would your or anyone elses opinion matter when he likes what he is using ? (and you have not heard his tone)

it's like people just read the post and assume its a "what's a good amp sim " and post there opinions,. without reading he was happy with what he had and wanted presets ?

If I yelled out Protools every time a DAW thread was posted, I would be shouted down, what is the difference ?
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#23
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When
He did not ask to change tools he's happy with pod farm, just like his guitar, pick-ups, effects & amp.

& no one asked for your opinion on what "good guitar tone" is. Why would your or anyone elses opinion matter when he likes what he is using ? (and you have not heard his tone)

it's like people just read the post and assume its a "what's a good amp sim " and post there opinions,. without reading he was happy with what he had and wanted presets ?

If I yelled out Protools every time a DAW thread was posted, I would be shouted down, what is the difference ?

He didn't ask for anyone's opinion on tone, but he did ask for our opinions on Pod Farm
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Which most people here generally dislike
#24
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No? Where did you get that from? But you went off complaining about a bunch of stuff that no on had claimed, it's not about cost in isolation, but cost in relation to quality. I know you can be a good member of the community, because you have proved in the past that you can.

But your post was just pretty ranty and wasn't actually directly relevant to anything anyone had said... just chill out okay? The dude asked for opinions, he got opinions.


But... that's what PodFarm is... even if you use it in Stand Alone mode it's still the same deal...

I've never put POD farm on my channel strip as a plugin
I've always opened it as a separate application, than recorded through logic

Whereas whenever I've used something free like LePou plugins my tone sounds like ass

I've always found that there is TOO much mud with my LePou plugins
Never had that with POD farm :/
I always find the preset tones aren't too shabby with POD farm
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This is your second reply to my last post ?


Actually the post directly bellow yours, was meant as a reply to the post above yours. Sorry for the confusion.


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When


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#26
-_- why can't pod farm ever be mentioned without a war? Chem, I do have to say you are a little borderline religious with your dislike of pod farm. I don't think we've had a thread where it was mentioned which you haven't gotten in an argument with someone over it.

P.S. just incase it isn't clear from previous posts, I don't like pod farm much personally but I understand others do and are able to get perfectly good tones out of it. I just don't see why mentioning it's name here is heresy.
#27
Because I think it's a damn shame that people would waste so much cash without at least TRYING the free alternatives.

I struggled with PodFarm for a long while before I just gave up with it entirely, tones never sounded right to me. Should I reinstall and give it another go to update my opinion? Probably... but I just don't have time.
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#28
Yes but this thread was never about that, it was about pod farm settings and opinions on it. After you said you didn't like it there wasn't really any need to get into the podfarm vs free sims debate, you know what I mean?
#29
Isn't that part of an opinion though?

I was more clearing up my position that actively arguing... at least in my mind. I mean I don't give two craps if people like and use podfarm... that's their choice... but I'd always advice against it if someone was gonna buy an amp sim.
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#30
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-_- why can't pod farm ever be mentioned without a war?


More like anything on this board. Discussions like Mac Vs PC, Pro Tools Vs Others, SM57 Vs Others, Scarlett 2i4 Vs Others, EZDrummer Vs Steven Slate Drums (lol, we all know Slate is better) and pretty much anything that starts with "Should I buy something that hasn't been said in the other 30000000000000 threads on the same topic" end in flame wars. I'll admit I've probably started my share of them but I'm getting better.

It'll always come down to personal opinion which is why I try to suggest trying a demo if there is one available or make a trip to your local music shop & try one out*

*I don't think I've ever really suggested to try demos except to Chem on RockRack
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#31
Those threads before people buy stuff don't really bother me, we're just making suggestions (albeit the same ones over and over). What gets me is the ones where someone already has something (UX2 and Pod Farm are frequent examples) and the second they say that's what their using the only suggestion they can get is "you need a better interface/amp sim" when in reality there are other problems.
Demo's are great, and with amp sims there is no good reason not to try the free options. With drum software the demo of EZD (that is unless there's one that isn't EZD Lite) is next to useless, and you all but require the expansions for most uses we have. I don't know if SSD has a demo (if it does I'd be interested in trying it) but I imagine it would be similarly limited. So with that you're buying essentially blind. Pro Tools vs others is a slightly different one considering most (NOT ALL) people who recommend it give no support other than it's status as the industry standard. The REAPER fanboyism is dropping quite well now we have some users who use other things (notably S1). Mac vs PC will never end, but inevitably it comes down to preference and whether the person thinks it is worth the (typical) price difference. Finally SM57 vs others is usually a pretty well handled argument. People pick it because it's well known, and when we tell them it's really not the best choice for things that aren't a snare drum or distorted guitar they're usually pretty open.
#32
But if something is picked because it is known but is not as good as something else.


Like podfarm compared to so many other things... do you see my issue yet?
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#33
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But if something is picked because it is known but is not as good as something else.

Like podfarm compared to so many other things... do you see my issue yet?


Why not just let the sticky's do it's job ?
( but them being open, unedited and 7-16 pages long is a issue for someone wanting information )

IF people read the sticky and still ask about issues about something they own and use why repeat the sticky advice ? maybe there Stuck with what they using for any number of reasons and DON'T want to buying new gear OR follow the sticky advice. (

if they don't read the sticky and ask WHAT interface should I buy just post "Read stick" and move on

its just sad to hear "buy Scarlett 2i4" and "use Reaper" over and over in threads when the thread starter is NOT asking that,. specially when most posters Don't even own or uses what there Shouting about and keep posting trying to re-enforce they first post.

and amazing & Crazy as it sounds,... some people may disagree with the sticky and disregard it, ( personal experience or Read another website's info ) and want to here other opinions for there specific situation other then what the Sticky say's ,.. or do we all have to fall in line and agree with what's in the sticky ?
#34
Thanks for the scoop on Head Case! I will get it later.
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Why not just let the sticky's do it's job ?
( but them being open, unedited and 7-16 pages long is a issue for someone wanting information )

IF people read the sticky and still ask about issues about something they own and use why repeat the sticky advice ? maybe there Stuck with what they using for any number of reasons and DON'T want to buying new gear OR follow the sticky advice. (

if they don't read the sticky and ask WHAT interface should I buy just post "Read stick" and move on

its just sad to hear "buy Scarlett 2i4" and "use Reaper" over and over in threads when the thread starter is NOT asking that,. specially when most posters Don't even own or uses what there Shouting about and keep posting trying to re-enforce they first post.

and amazing & Crazy as it sounds,... some people may disagree with the sticky and disregard it, ( personal experience or Read another website's info ) and want to here other opinions for there specific situation other then what the Sticky say's ,.. or do we all have to fall in line and agree with what's in the sticky ?


Which part of anything that I've said in this thread has anything to do with the stickys?

And for the most part yes, all the regs believe that the sickies show the best gear for a beginner who knows nothing about recording... which is the point of them. If you don't know anything. Same with amp sims, people who know stuff can go find them themselves because they know what they're looking for. Part of the reason I always vehemently argue against PodFarm is to make people aware of other options. Line6 are a huge company and lots of people know of them... that doesn't mean they're the best at what they do though. It's just that the companies that do it better are just way smaller and get less attention.
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#36
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Part of the reason I always vehemently argue against PodFarm is to make people aware of other options. .


so the sticky is not good enough you have to post your opinion about Podfarm in every post instead... OK
#37
If there is a thread asking for opinions on PodFarm... then why can't I post my opinion on PodFarm?

You trying to limit my freespeech bro?
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#38
multiple posts with the same opinion is just noise.

it's like there should be a Sticky with the title "For all Line 6 & Podfarm users READ THIS" and you put all the stuff you have posted over time on the subject there..
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