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#41
Quote by palm mute
..what? Did you read him wrong or something

Yes, but that reply was a joke anyway.
A reference that many wouldn't catch.
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#43
just go for a jazz standard, essential jazz vocabulary right here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKMI3wngqQg
i doubt you teacher wants to hear a metal song


something catchy also, most non-jazz fans love that one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7PfDn0KhtI
Last edited by SuperKid at May 20, 2013,
#44
Quote by theogonia777
Cynic really isn't jazzy either.



Some of their songs are, some aren't.
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#46
Quote by CoreysMonster
This is pretty jazzy and also pretty heavy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0-FLnXWt4U

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#47
Quote by jmuller6998
I have been assigned to do a Jazz song as assessment at school and my teacher said I can do a Jazz fusion song but I know nothing of this genre so is there any sort of easy Jazz songs that are mixed with the Metal genre?

So wait, you have to learn and perform it?
You just want to do a standard, then. Don't get too fancy. That way you can do what you want (or can) with it, rather than something tightly arranged/orchestrated.
Take The A Train, Mahna De Carnival, Born To Be Blue, How High The Moon, Misty, something like that.
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something catchy also, most non-jazz fans love that one




Kenny Burrell is one cool cat. Non jazz fans will also love Midnight Blue;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wAmxuHt5nw

Grant Grant green is another cool bluesy jazzer, his version of My Favourite Things is great;



edit; Another cool tune appreciated by non jazz fans is Moanin' by Art Blakey - your posting of My Favourite Things reminds me of a great medley version from an Anime that some might recognise;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BNRENSEV0g
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
Last edited by Hydra150 at May 20, 2013,
#50
Quote by CoreysMonster
This is pretty jazzy and also pretty heavy.


That Slipknot track reminds me of the Al Di Meola track Flight Over Rio (I think that track is on the album video I posted on the previous page), only a bit funkier and with some lame rap vocals. The first minute, at least.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siq2qkINyPY
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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#52
Quote by StewieSwan
Some of their songs are, some aren't.


Umm... no? This is like saying that Yngwie's music is classical music.

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this is probably some of the heaviest music from the entire 20th century:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOjxBuwBUEE


And the heaviness was... where?
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#53
In the dark atmosphere? I guess that's kinda in the ear of the beholder, because I think we partly mean emotionally heavy if you know what I mean (and I'm not sure I do )
Quote by primusfan
this is probably some of the heaviest music from the entire 20th century:


If we're talking heaviness regardless of genre, this has to be up there;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGGSTiDOjKU
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
Last edited by Hydra150 at May 20, 2013,
#54
if you want shredz:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFFwlK23agY

that bari sax solo is some killer shit.

Quote by theogonia777

And the heaviness was... where?


it's like they say. if you have to ask ...

i was originally going to post something from crescent. anything with coltrane and elvin though. and especially considering the origin of that tune? not even a contest.
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#55
Quote by theogonia777
Umm... no? This is like saying that Yngwie's music is classical music.



He lifts elements from classical music, just as Cynic lefts elements from jazz. Maybe you should look up what 'fusion' means.


I don't see how you can sit there and tell me this isn't jazzy at all, unless you're some ****** puritan or some shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=rSmAacEpt-Y#t=255s
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#56
Quote by StewieSwan
He lifts elements from classical music, just as Cynic lefts elements from jazz. Maybe you should look up what 'fusion' means.


I don't see how you can sit there and tell me this isn't jazzy at all, unless you're some ****** puritan or some shit.


On a scale of 1-10, that was maybe 2 jazzy. You can't just take vanilla ice cream, throw on some chocolate syrup, and call it chocolate ice cream.
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#57
You had me at 'chocolate syrup'.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
and bleed if it's what she says you ought to do
#58
King Of Those Who Know is a weird choice...I'm But A Wave To... or something else off of Focus would have been better suited.

I think you two might be misunderstanding each other, though. Stewie, are you saying it sounds like it's influenced by Jazz, and Kristen, are you saying that it's just not Jazz at all?
#59
Quote by theogonia777
On a scale of 1-10, that was maybe 2 jazzy. You can't just take vanilla ice cream, throw on some chocolate syrup, and call it chocolate ice cream.



Yeah you can. If you stir it together really well, it becomes chocolate ice cream.
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#61
Quote by Morphogenesis26
King Of Those Who Know is a weird choice...I'm But A Wave To... or something else off of Focus would have been better suited.

I think you two might be misunderstanding each other, though. Stewie, are you saying it sounds like it's influenced by Jazz, and Kristen, are you saying that it's just not Jazz at all?


I'm saying that there are a couple of elements of jazz on the surface, but:

-they're just minor aesthetic elements on the surface, and there is a complete lack of any more concrete underlying elements that would actually make it jazz
-they're not even exclusive "jazz" elements (it's like when people call 7th chords "jazz chords" or refer to anything with distorted guitars and harsh vocals as screamo or death metal)
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#63
Quote by jmuller6998
I have been assigned to do a Jazz song as assessment at school and my teacher said I can do a Jazz fusion song but I know nothing of this genre so is there any sort of easy Jazz songs that are mixed with the Metal genre?


John Zorn/Naked City
#64
Disclaimer: I really don't know that much about jazz, but I saw someone say that Opeth wasn't jazzy at all in the first page. Counterpoint, maybe? What would this be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWtqeNie1Rk
Progressive metal?
Sounds more folky than jazzy to me, tbh
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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#66
Buy or download the album Swing Shift by Rik Emmett. It's an eleven track disc with each song a different kind of Jazz.

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#67
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It has some stuff going on that has some weird chord changes and voicings, but I don't think every time you hear modulations and dissonance you should start screaming 'bebop!'. I don't doubt it has some fusion influence mixed in there, but it's more prog than anything I think
I'm no expert on prog nor metal, though
For one thing, none of it sounded improvised, and that's like the bedrock of jazz
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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#68
I second Scofield... Listen to his album A Go Go. Hottentot is probably my favourite track on that album.

Also check out Larry Carlton:

Room 335 (sounds cheesy at near the beginning but trust me-keep listening


Spiral


EDIT: Wait- how do you embed Youtube videos in spoiler tags?
EDIT 2: Nevermind, disregard the previous edit
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#69
Carlton has a brilliant tone/control of the sound in his hands, and a great melodic sensibility.
The same for Robben Ford.
And Schofield (both John and Matt)


But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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#70
Quote by Hydra150
For one thing, none of it sounded improvised, and that's like the bedrock of jazz


Which is the reason that you'll probably never find a true Jazz/Metal fusion album. Metal is a much more static genre when it comes to structure, where as Jazz is fluid. It's incredibly difficult to mix the two in the truest sense.
#73
Quote by me+yourmom=69
jazz sucks

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and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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#77
FFS just play some jazz. Who knows, you might actually learn something.

EDIT: Seriously, why is it that every teenage metal/classic rock fan is like this? How many threads already exist where it's something like 'Hey, so my history teacher wants an essay on an important 20th century event. How can I make my essay about Master of Puppets instead?'
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#79
TS, don't bother please. We don't need your filth.

...modes and scales are still useless.


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#80
Quote by willT08
Just remember it don't mean a thing if it ain't got swing

Oh, so fusion is meaningless, then? Jazz fascist


Which reminds me of some real Jazz fascists, people should watch the film Swing Kids.
But boys will be boys and girls have those eyes
that'll cut you to ribbons, sometimes
and all you can do is just wait by the moon
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