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#1
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-boy-scouts-lift-ban-on-gay-youth-20130523,0,5686326.story

I was watching a story on the news about this, and at a press conference, one of the Boy Scout representatives say that they now accept homosexuals as "legitimate, whole, perfect creatures from God." (lets save the "God isn't real, Ron Paul '16" posts for a different thread). Then one guy was saying that they will start teaching boys ages 6-17 about what homosexuality is, which sounds like a good idea to me.

I personally think the decision is probably just a response for the Boy Scouts to make up for all the criticism they got for being anti-gay. But eh, the decision will ultimately and hopefully lead to something positive.
#3
i thought all boy scouts were already gay?




#4
good for them
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#6
didnt realize boy scouts was a religious thing, well will be sure not to send my future kids there
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#7
Except they still don't allow adult homosexuals to be scout leaders.
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#8
bunch of new merit badges on the horizon.
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#10
Getting gay with kids is here
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Except they still don't allow adult homosexuals to be scout leaders.
Honestly, I think that'll probably come soon enough. Hopefully they're ripping off the band-aid slowly for intolerant parents who are still afraid of that SNL sketch.
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I don't see why everyone mad such an uproar over their banning of homosexuals. It is a private ran club that can make their own rules.
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#15
Why were they banned in the first place?

I know a very religious kid involved with the boy scouts who is now ashamed to have been involved with the organization. He's kind of an intolerant jerk when you aren't talking to him face-to-face. Are there seriously a lot of people angry about this move? Then again, this could be just him being angry that his only correct and moral religious views are not the standards everyone else is still using. I could go on a huge rant about this kid's intolerant and obnoxious nature, so sorry about that.

I could be a dolt, but someone please explain this quote. "The boy scouts were never co-ed, they shouldn't be now (not calling homosexuals girls)." I'm sorry, but I have no idea what the hell that is talking about.
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#16
Here's my $0.02 for anyone who gives a shit. I'm an Eagle scout (the highest attainable rank in Boy scouts. Only 4% of scouts make it). I've been involved with the BSA for about 10 years. I'm being 100% honest. In all the troops in my area (more than 500 kids, easily), there is no issue with homosexuals or atheists whatsoever. The rules were made in the early 1900s. You know, like when women couldn't vote, and non-whites couldn't really do much, yea. The rules really aren't relevant anymore. The religious aspect isn't even that big. I've had atheists in my troop. The only thing that would possibly bother them was "Scout Sunday". One day out of the entire year, there is a completely optional mass held in a church. They are not forced to go. That is the only religious influence in scouts. These rules were made in a time where "religious" meant "someone with morals", and "atheist" meant "a lawless rebel". We had an openly gay kid in our troop for a brief time. No one gives a shit. In my experience, scouting isn't about being religious or having a girlfriend (well, that one for sure lololol), It's about having respect for your peers.
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Here's my $0.02 for anyone who gives a shit. I'm an Eagle scout (the highest attainable rank in Boy scouts. Only 4% of scouts make it). I've been involved with the BSA for about 10 years. I'm being 100% honest. In all the troops in my area (more than 500 kids, easily), there is no issue with homosexuals or atheists whatsoever. The rules were made in the early 1900s. You know, like when women couldn't vote, and non-whites couldn't really do much, yea. The rules really aren't relevant anymore. The religious aspect isn't even that big. I've had atheists in my troop. The only thing that would possibly bother them was "Scout Sunday". One day out of the entire year, there is a completely optional mass held in a church. They are not forced to go. That is the only religious influence in scouts. These rules were made in a time where "religious" meant "someone with morals", and "atheist" meant "a lawless rebel". We had an openly gay kid in our troop for a brief time. No one gives a shit. In my experience, scouting isn't about being religious or having a girlfriend (well, that one for sure lololol), It's about having respect for your peers.


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Here's my $0.02 for anyone who gives a shit. I'm an Eagle scout (the highest attainable rank in Boy scouts. Only 4% of scouts make it). I've been involved with the BSA for about 10 years. I'm being 100% honest. In all the troops in my area (more than 500 kids, easily), there is no issue with homosexuals or atheists whatsoever. The rules were made in the early 1900s. You know, like when women couldn't vote, and non-whites couldn't really do much, yea. The rules really aren't relevant anymore. The religious aspect isn't even that big. I've had atheists in my troop. The only thing that would possibly bother them was "Scout Sunday". One day out of the entire year, there is a completely optional mass held in a church. They are not forced to go. That is the only religious influence in scouts. These rules were made in a time where "religious" meant "someone with morals", and "atheist" meant "a lawless rebel". We had an openly gay kid in our troop for a brief time. No one gives a shit. In my experience, scouting isn't about being religious or having a girlfriend (well, that one for sure lololol), It's about having respect for your peers.

Yeah I was in Boy Scouts for a few years as a kid and religion was never even brought up.
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#20
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I don't see why everyone mad such an uproar over their banning of homosexuals. It is a private ran club that can make their own rules.


I think a good part of it has to do with the size and history of the boy scouts. They're a fairly big organization and many people (including me) were a part of it at some point. They have a big standing and for some reason they decided to create an issue and then enforce it and piss everyone off, when there was really no issue to begin with.

I don't recall religion being a part of it at all but that might just be cause it's Canadian scouts and I live in a place that's not overly religious.
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I don't see why everyone mad such an uproar over their banning of homosexuals. It is a private ran club that can make their own rules.

So people shouldn't be pissed at someone being an asshole because they have the right to do so?
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#24
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They told me they don't accept guys in their mid-20s.


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I don't understand you, Due. You preach tolerance from everyone and give no credit to those who move towards it. It's true, it shouldn't be a shocking or unexpected thing in today's society for an organization to do what's decent towards human beings, but as it stands considering the attitude of people, every little helps.

Give credit where credit is...
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#33
They had a gay ban this whole time? Dang. Could've fooled me.
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#34
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I don't understand you, Due. You preach tolerance from everyone and give no credit to those who move towards it. It's true, it shouldn't be a shocking or unexpected thing in today's society for an organization to do what's decent towards human beings, but as it stands considering the attitude of people, every little helps.

Give credit where credit is...

being less pieces of shit isn't that commendable.
#36
I was a boy scout.

Then, I found Jesus.

I've been spraying my jizz into pussies across the Midwest ever since.

But really, Boy Scouts are an organization that focus on camping and fishing and finding your way in the woods (orienteering, bitch!). Of course their majority are going to stray right of center. But they're a private organization they can do what they want (so hard not to let my constitutional law nerd out here).

People are slowly becoming more tolerant of homosexuality. This is just one inevitability. But these things happen over time. Mostly as old people die.

So yeah, **** old people...figuratively.
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#37
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being less pieces of shit isn't that commendable.

What an intolerant view...
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#38
I was in the boy scouts when I was a kid...

I had no idea it was religious and against gays. I mean they had meetings and stuff in churches, but around here, pretty much everything is done in a church. lol
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I was in the boy scouts when I was a kid...

I had no idea it was religious and against gays. I mean they had meetings and stuff in churches, but around here, pretty much everything is done in a church. lol

It's not like that's in the handbook or anything.

Which now makes the Boy Scout Handbook the best selling book ever to not be the basis for any anti-gay organization.

But like I said, ok I didn't really say this, the BSA is really a very grassroots, segmented organization. There's a lot of distance between corporate HQ decisions what actually happens.
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