#1
Hello all, been a while since I've used this site.

I play through a Laney LV300 120w tube amp combo with a 12" Celestion Seventy 80 speaker. I generally use my Schecter Hellraiser solo-6 FR (which has a very deep, rich tone), Parker Mojo Fly (which has a much quiter, muffled tone), and Ibanez SZR (which has a muddy heavy tone). I'm looking for a suggestion as far as pedals or general tips as to how to increase the "beefyness" or "fatness" of my distorted tone.

I use a Boss ST-2 Power Stack for my distortion, and run it through the clean channel on my amp. I generally don't use the built-in distortion and crunch channels because they are pretty unappealing.

Any suggestions? Thanks!
#2
I've got a wampler superplextortion into a Peavey Delta blues 1x15. Deep and rich tone with a huge range from clean to plexi. Good OD from the plextortion. A Bit pricey though if you can still get them.
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#3
No pedal is really going to make your tone thicker.

You won't like this answer, but a new amp and/or a good quality 4x12 will do you wonders.
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#4
Overdrive pedal on your distortion channels rather than using a distortion pedal on your clean channel.
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Overdrive pedal on your distortion channels rather than using a distortion pedal on your clean channel.

I find TS style OD pedals taper off the low end and boost the upper mids and add aggression. But he wants thick beefiness, which you need your low mids for.
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Overdrive pedal on your distortion channels rather than using a distortion pedal on your clean channel.

I find this more tightens up the low end on most distortion channels, but this amp is a SS, and what TS needs are tubes IMO. A cab would also contribute because the speakers would push more air.
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#7
Maybe try running a 10 band eq in the loop and boosting your low mids.
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#8
yeah, using the amp gain will be the first step....thats why good amps are so expensive if you want to use everything on board.

using distortion pedals is a dead giveaway to a thin tone....and generally to compensate really really good distortion pedals are 200-300 or more. thus, making a better point to buying a better amp.

boosting a tube amp or using a great overdrive is an easy way (NOT a distortion, ODs are different) not for gain 100%, but for theit slight boosting / EQ characteristics. however, if your underlying tone is bad, it may not help.

EQ pedal...a good shot here. can really change the tone in a lot of ways.
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#9
TS your amp is not a tube amp, it has one 12ax7 in it and that's it.

An OD like the Digitech Bad Monkey has a treble and bass control so it may do you better than just a TS type pedal with one tone control. level at max, gain at 0-2and the tone knobs to what you like
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#10
that's not a tube amp and the 70/80 is a pretty mediocre speaker.

a better amp and better cabinet with better speakers would probably be the thing.

boss distortion pedals are often a bit trebly/thin too, so that's probably not helping (though with a better amp you probably wouldn't need pedals, aside from an od used as a boost).
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#12
eh you don't have to go boutique

but as i said, if the main thing is the distortion tone, just getan amp aimed at that
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After checking out a few dozen sound clips and videos of the Boss ST-2, I noticed one common factor between all of them even though all the videos/reviews used different amps and guitars. There is a BIG spike in the upper mids in that pedal. It gives it a tone similar to a "cocked- wah" (like leaving a wah activated somewhere mid sweep). To my ears it thins out the tone and gives the pedal a very aggressive EQ curve. In my opinion, you need to re-think your setup a bit. To try to eq that out of the pedal on the amp you'll more than likely end up with a very dark clean tone that won't balance with your dirty tone very well.

If you can swing it financially, try and look into a new amp to totally eliminate the need of a pedal. If finances are a little too tight, a different pedal will work too. There are a lot of great dirt pedals out there now in the same price range as BOSS's stuff that will blow it out of the water. Give us a possible budget and we'll help you decide on something that will give you some bang for your buck.
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Wow thanks guys. I always thought my amp was of pretty high quality, but that must've been a sales pitch to an ignorant 16 year old (me, at the time). I think what I might do is save up in the future for a full tube head, and run it into my Laney GS412A to get a more live, responsive tone.

I used to use a DigiTech RP150 (garbage) and then realized that it was not only full of weak tones and effects, but it compressed my sound to the point of tinny weakness. That's why I got this ST-1 distortion, and it seems to have more "beefyness" than the built-in OD and Distortion settings in my LV300.

As of now I am dirt broke, only 10 dollars and change to my name, so my budget is null and void. However if you give me the approximate amount that I will likely require to enhance my sound, i.e. pedals, new amp, etc.... it will give me a relative idea of how much I need to work towards.

Is getting the Laney GS head a good idea? I'm sure it will have more balls.
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do you mean a laney gh head? yeah they're pretty nice (i have one). it'd sound better through better speakers than 70/80s, too, though.

but if you're in the USA there might be better-value options.
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damn dog....if you got 10 bucks in your name you better stop worrying about your guitar tone
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#19
99.999999% of the time. People play with TOO MUCH DISTORTION. Try turning the gain down.

Use the amps distortion. Stick a tubescreamer before the amp to boost your signal & upper mids. Wack the bass on 6-7, mids on 4 & treble on 6.
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I had a Laney TF700 which was basically an older version of the LV300. I actually got a pretty heavy tone out of the 3rd channel. Try engage that VTS switch when you are on the drive 2 channel and see if that works for you.
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