#1
I feel like the nature of pedalboards and how one switches effects just seems so dang..clumsy and not ergonomic at all?

I mean, you are dancing around on stage rocking out, and then halfway through a song you have to stop, find a small little metal button on your pedalboard, which is next to 14 other small metal buttons, and hit that exactly on time and without tripping. And the the more effects you use, the more often you have to do this.

There has to be a better way. Thoughts? other than having a guitar tech do it for you.

Solutions:
Effects Switching that does not involve having to hit small target with your foot - maybe attach to your guitar? connected wireless to your pedalbaord?
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#3
MIDI switching and rackmount gear.

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#5
Multi-effect pedals

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#7
Either don't use effects so much, or get some midi-programmable gear.

Unless you're into a genre that uses a lot of different effects, you'll find yourself using fewer and fewer with time. I used to think that I wanted a flanger, phaser, distortion, overdrive, wah, etc., but now, I realize that using all of these effects isn't going to cover up the sound of a shitty sounding amp.

In other words, before you go buying a bunch of different effects, consider what you're ACTUALLY trying to do with them. Are you using them for the music you're playing, or trying to cover up the crappy sound of an amp that you're using? If it's the second, you'd be better off buying a new amp.

I know you weren't asking about buying effects and such, but I figured that it was relative.

EDIT: Wait, wait, wait...You have all that awesome gear and don't know what MIDI is?

EDIT2: Never mind that first edit. I thought the Dual Rec. was midi programmable. Nonetheless, I find it hard to believe that you have that beast of an amp and haven't heard of MIDI control.

EDIT3: Those external FX Loop things look pretty sweet, if you would use a lot of effects.
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Either don't use effects so much, or get some midi-programmable gear.

Unless you're into a genre that uses a lot of different effects, you'll find yourself using fewer and fewer with time. I used to think that I wanted a flanger, phaser, distortion, overdrive, wah, etc., but now, I realize that using all of these effects isn't going to cover up the sound of a shitty sounding amp.

In other words, before you go buying a bunch of different effects, consider what you're ACTUALLY trying to do with them. Are you using them for the music you're playing, or trying to cover up the crappy sound of an amp that you're using? If it's the second, you'd be better off buying a new amp.

I know you weren't asking about buying effects and such, but I figured that it was relative.

EDIT: Wait, wait, wait...You have all that awesome gear and don't know what MIDI is?

EDIT2: Never mind that first edit. I thought the Dual Rec. was midi programmable. Nonetheless, I find it hard to believe that you have that beast of an amp and haven't heard of MIDI control.

EDIT3: Those external FX Loop things look pretty sweet, if you would use a lot of effects.



Heard of it, have not really looked at it. That's why I am posting here.
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#11
my solution is, i just try to be as minimal as i can with pedals when i'm playing live.

usually i just stick with the same tone all the time (just a light crunch) and only use pedals to give my solos a bit of a boost, so i just position my pedalboard at the front of the stage next to the monitors, which is generally where i'm going to be when i'm playing a solo, as part of the performance. that way, they don't get in the way of the performance too much.

ideally i think i'd like to just have an active boost/compressor circuit built into my guitar which can be activated and deactivated with the flick of a switch (on the guitar, of course), and then the sound man can put modulation or delay effects on my tone if he wants them.. or if he thinks that should be my job, he can just not do it, i mean, who really cares as long as it still sounds good?
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#12
This is why some guys just have the guitar tech hit pedals backstage. Or you can do what Prince does—have different pedalboards for different songs and make people rush them to the stage and place them at your feet. No, really, he does that. In the round.
#13
Octaswitch. Iirc danny has one.
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#14
This feels like one of those informercials that's trying to convince you to care more about something that you don't mind so that they can sell you something. I'm sure it's a real problem for some people but it doesn't seem like this is something that most guitarists struggle with in any major way.


(Voiceover)Do you hate small, annoying switches on your pedalboard? Don't you wish there were something better?
Black and white shot of a guitarist stumbling clumsily over three MXR pedals with the logos taped over; cut to a suburban mom wrestling in exasperation at three or four tangled guitar cables.
(Voiceover)Well, now there is!
Camera switches to full color; suburban mom looks up from cables with an excited but inquisitive expression
(Zakk Wylde, via greenscreen)Hi, I'm Zakk Wylde, guitarist famous for my work with BLS and Ozzy Osbourne, and my willingness to put my name on absolutely any product that my agent puts in front of me!
(Voiceover)Zakk's patented system (fine print at bottom of screen: "Not actually patented; system does not actually work") lets you do away with klutzy cables (buzzer sound; big red X appears over the tangled cables) and finnicky switches. (buzzer sound; big red X appears over the pedals)
(Voiceover)Yes, it's the brand new X-rocks Kinnect! Just put it on top of your amp, plug your pedals in, and switch settings by simply waving your arms!
Cut to clumsy guitarist now playing in front of a huge crowd, doing windmills and crowdsurfing; the suburban mom is now doing the Dougie with her three kids; all are foaming at the mouth from excitement.
(Voiceover)That's right, for just eighteen easy payments of 39.95, we'll send you this great new product that totally works! But wait, there's more...
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This feels like one of those informercials that's trying to convince you to care more about something that you don't mind so that they can sell you something. I'm sure it's a real problem for some people but it doesn't seem like this is something that most guitarists struggle with in any major way.


(Voiceover)Do you hate small, annoying switches on your pedalboard? Don't you wish there were something better?
Black and white shot of a guitarist stumbling clumsily over three MXR pedals with the logos taped over; cut to a suburban mom wrestling in exasperation at three or four tangled guitar cables.
(Voiceover)Well, now there is!
Camera switches to full color; suburban mom looks up from cables with an excited but inquisitive expression
(Zakk Wylde, via greenscreen)Hi, I'm Zakk Wylde, guitarist famous for my work with BLS and Ozzy Osbourne, and my willingness to put my name on absolutely any product that my agent puts in front of me!
(Voiceover)Zakk's patented system (fine print at bottom of screen: "Not actually patented; system does not actually work") lets you do away with klutzy cables (buzzer sound; big red X appears over the tangled cables) and finnicky switches. (buzzer sound; big red X appears over the pedals)
(Voiceover)Yes, it's the brand new X-rocks Kinnect! Just put it on top of your amp, plug your pedals in, and switch settings by simply waving your arms!
Cut to clumsy guitarist now playing in front of a huge crowd, doing windmills and crowdsurfing; the suburban mom is now doing the Dougie with her three kids; all are foaming at the mouth from excitement.
(Voiceover)That's right, for just eighteen easy payments of 39.95, we'll send you this great new product that totally works! But wait, there's more...

#17
i first heard of zakk wylde from marshall MG adverts and i honestly thought he was just a cheesey advertising mascot, like barry scott or juan sheet

i think another interesting way of doing it would be to have everyone play to a metronome and have a system where your pedals switch automatically at pre-programmed points in the songs. this will require in-ear monitors for everyone in the band though.
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#18
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This feels like one of those informercials that's trying to convince you to care more about something that you don't mind so that they can sell you something. I'm sure it's a real problem for some people but it doesn't seem like this is something that most guitarists struggle with in any major way.


(Voiceover)Do you hate small, annoying switches on your pedalboard? Don't you wish there were something better?
Black and white shot of a guitarist stumbling clumsily over three MXR pedals with the logos taped over; cut to a suburban mom wrestling in exasperation at three or four tangled guitar cables.
(Voiceover)Well, now there is!
Camera switches to full color; suburban mom looks up from cables with an excited but inquisitive expression
(Zakk Wylde, via greenscreen)Hi, I'm Zakk Wylde, guitarist famous for my work with BLS and Ozzy Osbourne, and my willingness to put my name on absolutely any product that my agent puts in front of me!
(Voiceover)Zakk's patented system (fine print at bottom of screen: "Not actually patented; system does not actually work") lets you do away with klutzy cables (buzzer sound; big red X appears over the tangled cables) and finnicky switches. (buzzer sound; big red X appears over the pedals)
(Voiceover)Yes, it's the brand new X-rocks Kinnect! Just put it on top of your amp, plug your pedals in, and switch settings by simply waving your arms!
Cut to clumsy guitarist now playing in front of a huge crowd, doing windmills and crowdsurfing; the suburban mom is now doing the Dougie with her three kids; all are foaming at the mouth from excitement.
(Voiceover)That's right, for just eighteen easy payments of 39.95, we'll send you this great new product that totally works! But wait, there's more...

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#19
Octaswitch. you get 8 buttons, and each of those 8 buttons has 8 small switches so you can choose which 8 effects come on when you press that button. So button one can have Chorus and Delay, button 2 can be Fuzz and Delay, Button 3 can be all 8 pedals on at once, and so on.
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#20
Midi all the way. Numerous systems [rjm rack gizmo, voodoo lab gcc for example] are for switching on and off non midi pedals. A lot of rack gear is midi, as well as some guitar pedals. With these you usually have control of each parameter via midi rather than just on/off.

Anyway, the point is - midi does this.
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#21
MIDI (and general MFX programming), bitches.
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#22
Carl Martin Octaswitch Mk2 is Midi Programmable IIRC EDIT: They are not

I also modded one for a customer once so that there was an always-on coloured LED by each of the switches so he just had to stomp by the correct LED and didn't have to think much
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