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#1
Styles:Modern Metal,Classic Rock/metal, Hard rock,metal,thrash metal...etc....... Been looking on the Internet for a while now at the many choices I have... I'm located at York Pa. Like to stay under 800 total. I may not be gigging much longer but I'm fine for just having my rp-1000 to take for a while to the PA. So this is only going to be used for jams/home use...Looked at Blackstar ht5 or 20,Orange Dark terror,#4 root,6505 112,5150/6505 212 used,Jca22h..I liked the 6505 112 and the orange DT that I tried,haven't been able to try anything else due to busy times at work and school...What does UG think.
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
#2
Where are you located?
Never mind I see it

www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear look for a used Krank Rev Jr/1980 Jr/ K-stein Jr and a 1x12 cab

The heads run $300-$400 used and the 1x12 krank cab is $100-$200
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
Last edited by Robbgnarly at Jun 8, 2013,
#3
Might want to look into a modeler like the Peavey Vypyr Tube 60.

Problem is, especially with a limited budget, an amp that is good at modern metal is not going to be good at classic rock, and vice versa.

If you don't want a modeler I'd say try something like a Peavey XXX. There's a few combos floating around out there. With the rest of your budget put a good speaker in like a WGS Vet 30.

You'll also want to invest in an OD like some sort of Tubescreamer variant, and an EQ. The Danelectro Fish & Chips is excellent for the price.


EDIT: Here you go. http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-PEAVEY-TRIPLE-XXX-1X12-GTR-COMBO-108834236-i3072603.gc

I'm not very familiar with the XXX... I'm not sure how the 112 differs from the 212.

Here's a 212: http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-PEAVEY-XXX-2X12-COMBO-AMP-108984834-i3138237.gc

It looks like it has another separate EQ, meaning the 112 might share an EQ, or only be 2 channels. Not sure what the differences are internally.


EDIT 2: So apparently there are proper 112 & 212 combos, and then there's the EFX combo, which is a bit different.

Here is a proper 112 combo. Go for this: http://www.guitarcenter.com/In-Store-Used-USED-PEAVEY-XXX-COMBO-AMP-109075458-i3174755.gc
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Last edited by Offworld92 at Jun 8, 2013,
#4
Quote by tybacca60
Styles: Modern Metal, Classic Rock/metal, Hard rock, metal, thrash metal, etc.

Been looking on the Internet for a while now at the many choices I have.

I'm located at York Pa.

Like to stay under 800 total.

I may not be gigging much longer but I'm fine for just having my rp-1000 to take for a while to the PA. So this is only going to be used for jams/home use.

Looked at Blackstar ht5 or 20, Orange Dark terror, #4 root, 6505 112, 5150/6505 212

used, Jca22h. I liked the 6505 112 and the orange DT that I tried,

haven't been able to try anything else due to busy times at work and school.

What does UG think.


FTFY

That brick of text was tough to read.
#5
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Last edited by TremontiAddict at Jun 8, 2013,
#6
The JSX is smoother, warmer and fatter than the XXX. IMO those are not good traits for what TS wants to do.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
#7
If he wants to play some classic rock and just plain hard rock too, I think the JSX is more versatile. The Triple X is more voiced for metal in comparison, I agree, but it sounds ice picky to me. It's up to the tone OP desires the most, I just think the JSX is a better sounding amp.
This is the life we must choose.

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#8
Quote by Ippon
FTFY

That brick of text was tough to read.

Sorry man posted on my ipad mini,not very easy to space out the posts..
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
#9
Quote by Robbgnarly
Where are you located?
Never mind I see it

www.guitarcenter.com/usedgear look for a used Krank Rev Jr/1980 Jr/ K-stein Jr and a 1x12 cab

The heads run $300-$400 used and the 1x12 krank cab is $100-$200

Hey I see you have the 1980 jr, does it do the modern stuff pretty well?
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
#10
Quote by tybacca60
Hey I see you have the 1980 jr, does it do the modern stuff pretty well?

Yeah it can get pretty heavy, but the gain is not as compressed as a lot of amps like the 5150/mesa.

If you stick a boost like a TS-9 in front it will scream.

I play in a prog-metal band and a hard-core/punk/thrash band and it works just fine.

It is loud enough to gig with and it is 20 watts
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
Last edited by Robbgnarly at Jun 8, 2013,
#11
Traynor YCS100h1. It has a classic voicing good for old-school metal/hard-rock as well as a "modern" voicing that gives it a good tone for newer stuff. Amazing amp if you can get a hold of one. There's also a combo that's similar, ycs90 or something.
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Quote by lightdark
Get the blackstar amp. Check out blackstar's new i.d. series.


They are essentially SS poweramp with a bullshit fancy name. I think the preamp is SS, or at least solid state components in there.

IMO i wouldn't bother.
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#14
The ID series is all solid state. Has "tube voicing simulation" technology or whatever they wanna call it lol. May not be a bad practice amp, but there's a lot better out there.
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#15
I'd say Bugera (333XL/Trirec), if you feel lucky - a lot of their stuff seem to be malfunctioning right out of the box.
I guess they got better, but I can't say for sure so buy one after you tried it, or accept the risk of having to spend some money to get it fixed.
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#16
The JSX has 3 great channels, the XXX only the mid one which incidentally they took and put in the XXX on Satriani's request. The XXX can't do good cleans, the distortion channel is fizzy overhyped mess (no idea why they picked that sound???), so only the mid channel has a good crunch to AC/DC to it. With the right overdrive it could be great for metal.

I'd also suggest he try a Tweaker and an overdrive. That amp can do all the sounds he is after but hte high gain which it falls very short from thus the extra push needed.
#17
Quote by lightdark
Get the blackstar amp. Check out blackstar's new i.d. series.

Those are some of the last amps I would consider.

The ID series is a SS modeling amp
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
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Quote by diabolical
The JSX has 3 great channels, the XXX only the mid one which incidentally they took and put in the XXX on Satriani's request. The XXX can't do good cleans, the distortion channel is fizzy overhyped mess (no idea why they picked that sound???), so only the mid channel has a good crunch to AC/DC to it. With the right overdrive it could be great for metal.

That's pretty much how I feel about the Triple. Mediocre cleans and a harsh high gain channel.

I'd personally snag up a JSX or a Rectoverb if he doesn't mind hitting the high side of his budget.
This is the life we must choose.

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Quote by TremontiAddict
That's pretty much how I feel about the Triple. Mediocre cleans and a harsh high gain channel.

I'd personally snag up a JSX or a Rectoverb if he doesn't mind hitting the high side of his budget.

I got a job and some gear to sell of so hey,it's still in the ballpark Also wanted to say Im a huge tremonti fan as well,his solo album fkin rocked.
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
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Quote by tybacca60
I got a job and some gear to sell of so hey,it's still in the ballpark Also wanted to say Im a huge tremonti fan as well,his solo album fkin rocked.

Awesome man! That Rectifier should get you pretty good Tremonti-esque tones. He used to use a Triple Rec a lot. Mainly uses a Bogner Uberschall and some more boutique amps now, but that Mesa sound can get ya pretty good tones for that style of music.
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#22
Didn't really want to make a new thread but someone in my area just posted a Mesa dc-10 combo for sale...800$...They any good for modern stuff
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
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Quote by tybacca60
Didn't really want to make a new thread but someone in my area just posted a Mesa dc-10 combo for sale...800$...They any good for modern stuff

The DC is in the Mesa Mark family of amps. My friend has the DC-3 combo and it will handle most modern hi-gain. But what do you consider modern hi-gain?
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#24
Well like Killswitch type stuff is the heaviest I go...So anywhere from thrash to metalcoreish in the metal regions
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
#25
Metal-core maybe a stretch for the DC-3
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#26
Quote by Robbgnarly
Metal-core maybe a stretch for the DC-3

Do you think your 1980 could pull that off?
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
#27
Quote by tybacca60
Do you think your 1980 could pull that off?

With the right boost yeah the 1980 could probably pull off Metal-core. The 1980 is very Splawn-ish in its tone and KSE use/used the Splawn QR and Nitro.

But I would say the Rev/Kstein would be the better off the shelf Krank for metal-core.

The 1980 is very HR marshall in tone.

That is why the Jet City JCA22h was recommended to you. It can do Metal-core (it has the SLO lead channel)

The Jet City JCA50/100 are also worth a look. Or if you can find one in your budget, a Peavey 6505+ 1x12 combo would be something to look at also.
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#28
+1 to the Jet City.

It can do metal no problem, and if you throw a boost on it, it just screams!
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Gibson Les Paul 60's Tribute
85' MIJ Strat
97' Snakepit Les Paul
LP Traditional 1960 Zebra
MIJ Tele
MIA Strat

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Peavey Ultra 112
Jet City JCA50H
66' Bassman
Pink Paisley Princeton RV
74' Vibro Champ
#30
i keep gain on about 4 on both triple xxx and jsx and i only play metal. they're fire breathers. for classic rock, stay away from these amps. for amazing high gain tone if you're willing to micro-tweak at high volume, get one of each!
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:: Vader 2x12 | Krankenstein 4x12 ::
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:: Polytune | Ditto | CarbonCopy ::
#32
Quote by diabolical
The JSX works great for cleans, rock, metal...I wouldn't call it one trick pony. The mid channel is great crunch, the clean is really flexible for anything.

true. it really depends on your playing style and what other gear it's being used with (obviously...). i do have to keep the amp quite subdued, though, even for my crazy tunes. no matter how i set it, i only hear aggression.
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:: Vader 2x12 | Krankenstein 4x12 ::
:: G50 | DecimatorG-String | 95Q ::
:: Polytune | Ditto | CarbonCopy ::
#33
Quote by crabstampede
true. it really depends on your playing style and what other gear it's being used with (obviously...). i do have to keep the amp quite subdued, though, even for my crazy tunes. no matter how i set it, i only hear aggression.

I had a JSX for several years and it is so versatile it is not funny. It has no problem doing great cleans, blues, classic rock and modern metal.

It is deff one of the most versatile amps <$1000 used
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#34
Thanks for all the help guys...I'll be looking out for a used jsx/xxx or a krank here in the next month or so,hopefully we will see a NAD post soon :P
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
#35
Quote by tybacca60
Thanks for all the help guys...I'll be looking out for a used jsx/xxx or a krank here in the next month or so,hopefully we will see a NAD post soon :P
I have a Krank Rev Jr Pro for sale in my sig if you're interested. I didn't care for it for what I play, but it does modern metal very well.
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Quote by ExDementia
I have a Krank Rev Jr Pro for sale in my sig if you're interested. I didn't care for it for what I play, but it does modern metal very well.

Yeah I already saw that,seems like you are asking a bit to much though,most jr heads run around 250-350...I'll watch your thread for a while if you drop price,I'll see
Guitars:
Esp Ec-1000 VB with Emg 81/60
Esp ec-1000 Snow White with SD Jb/Jazz
Esp ltd f-50
Amp:
Randall rd-20h
Randall rd112-v30
Pedals:
Digitech rp-1000
#37
Quote by tybacca60
Yeah I already saw that,seems like you are asking a bit to much though,most jr heads run around 250-350...I'll watch your thread for a while if you drop price,I'll see

I'd only pay $400 if it was the 50watt I bought my 1980Jr for $300
2002 PRS CE22
2013 G&L ASAT Deluxe
2009 Epiphone G-400 (SH-4)
Marshall JCM2000 DSL100
Krank 1980 Jr 20watt
Krank Rev 4x12 (eminence V12)
GFS Greenie/Digitech Bad Monkey
Morley Bad Horsie 2
MXR Smart Gate
#38
Quote by tybacca60
Yeah I already saw that,seems like you are asking a bit to much though,most jr heads run around 250-350...I'll watch your thread for a while if you drop price,I'll see
Like I said, it's OBO.

Also, I'm checking searchcraigslist.com and all of the ones in the $250-350 range are the standard Rev Jr, this is the Rev Jr Pro with the separate EQ and foot switch, which seems to be going on craigslist and eBay for $400-600 depending.
#39
Psh whatever.
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#40
Quote by ExDementia
Like I said, it's OBO.

Also, I'm checking searchcraigslist.com and all of the ones in the $250-350 range are the standard Rev Jr, this is the Rev Jr Pro with the separate EQ and foot switch, which seems to be going on craigslist and eBay for $400-600 depending.


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