Page 1 of 3
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#1
This is my second attempt to start this thread as I posted wrong the first time but we at Lace are starting it to bring you a direct link for questions, comments, critiques, and our own review links. Any questions about Lace Pickups can be answered here, so hopefully it helps assist anyone who is looking in to our completely unique designs!


A little about us; Family owned a celebrating 30+ years in the industry, started as a small garage shop by Don Lace, Sr. and continued on by his sons Jeff and Don. Our Gold and Hot Golds are a standard in some circles and the Holy Grail and P-90 are Jeff Lace's own signature creations, giving a modified feel on the classic strat tones everyone loves.

Alumitones are the ultimate revolution in tone since the first pickup was designed. With worldwide patents and incredible tone it is a technological leap in pickup design. Eliminates the ned for a battery while maintain a high resolution and certain dexterity, even split they'll be quiet as ever.

We also have monsters in metal tone; the Drop and Gain, Wino, Matt Pike's own Dirty Hesher, and the Nitro Hemi.

The Drop and Gain is developed specifically for drop tunings. Whether playing hard rock or drop-tuned, high gain metal, it will solve problems brought on from down tuning, preventing muddiness with a patented, magnetically more efficient design.

Wino loved our drop and gain but wanted more, and we gave it to him. These will deliver a more scooped, dynamic response and still maintains a silk top end. A higher resistance also offers more bottom end and bass, giving great character to a heavy, high output humbucker.

The Dirty Hesher was designed with Matt Pike to give that signature High on Fire and Sleep tone. Backed off or completely full blast, its a great replacement high output humbucker.

The Nitro Hemi is the choice of Bill Kelliher, who has them in his Gibson signature "Golden Axe" guitars. The bridge pickup is all about high output, and driving modern tone. A massive humbucker that needs NO BATTERIES for huge depth, detail and bass response.

All humbuckers can be split for single coil tones without losing the noiseless characteristics that have become a signature for Lace.

A varying range in Dually's and single coil designs make sure our high output, and clean, clear bell tones can be installed anywhere. With a range of tones replicating your favorite musician is easier than ever and will always be scary quiet.

We are also moving into bass designs, with Alumi-P's, Alumi-J's, and a whole series of "Man O War" style pickups in black covers in P, J, and Music Man styles. 4 string only.....for now?

The Alumi-P is another monster, this time revolutionizing bass tone. These reproduce quite realistically the exact resonant frequencies which a bass string produces, from bite to boom. They leave room for you to cut or boost anything you want, leaving your tone to be molded like clay; Huge, crushing, massive clay.

Man O War's will offer the tight, yet aggressive and controlled tone. Features precise harmonic content with an attitude that really cuts through. Low magnetic pull increases sustain and its broad, dynamic range drives amps and effects better. Think vintage vibe with modern punch and definition.

We are a premier designer in extended range guitar pickups and our focus on clarity and quality are at an all time high. Don't miss out on what could be a great pickup choice for you for years to come!


Thanks
Last edited by nick@lacemusic at Jun 12, 2013,
guitar/bass95
Banned
Join date: May 2010
390 IQ
#2
First I thought I had never heard of you, but you do appear at my google search history. If you have a set that does progressive rock and progressive metal I might be interested. Something with a clean neck pickup and a bright but high gain bridge pickup.
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#3
I think a Drop and Gain set can do that, maybe even do a Nitro Hemi in the neck as it has a bit more mid range to play with. They're split-able so you can get some single coil sounds in as well if thats something you're interested in. What model guitar are they going in to? Cesar Huesca has a good youtube review of the Drop and Gain if you have some spare time check it out! The Alumitones also offer a range of clarity you might not have heard before in a very different and unique design.
311ZOSOVHJH
G G A - B A B Y
Join date: Mar 2008
750 IQ
#4
Welcome to UG


As long as you don't blatantly advertise you will be fine here.

Have a read through our Rules when you get a minute.

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1588141

On Post #6 you will see links to 'dedicated' informational threads. Those may give you some ideas on how to craft a really meaningful thread that has content in it for our users. There is also an official 'Demo' thread that you are welcome to post demos in (again, as long as it is not advertising). If you are interested in advertising on UG there are additional resources regarding that you won't find here in GG&A. A word of warning if you have not picked up on it yet: We do not like advertising.

Personally, I would beef up your OP (original post) here to get some content in it.

Enjoy your stay here
Last edited by 311ZOSOVHJH at Jun 11, 2013,
guitar/bass95
Banned
Join date: May 2010
390 IQ
#5
Quote by nick@lacemusic
I think a Drop and Gain set can do that, maybe even do a Nitro Hemi in the neck as it has a bit more mid range to play with. They're split-able so you can get some single coil sounds in as well if thats something you're interested in. What model guitar are they going in to? Cesar Huesca has a good youtube review of the Drop and Gain if you have some spare time check it out! The Alumitones also offer a range of clarity you might not have heard before in a very different and unique design.


I might watch it

I might as well ask questions, isn't it the point here? :P

1. A lot of pickup manufacturers, while versatile, often specialize to a certain genre. DiMarzio offers pickups for great lead players like Petrucci, Gilbert and others like that. EMG and Bare Knuckle have a strong selection of metal pickups. What genre is your speciality?

2. I live in Finland, and the large music stores here don't sell your pickups. What is the easiest way to acquire them?

3. Explain the Alumitones. What makes them different? How has the tone changed when you compare them to an ordinary pickups? I'm interested in the desing, at least they look extremely sexy.
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#6
Thanks i'll definitely do that! I don't wanna get banned, just help with our pickups on this thread and contribute elsewhere productively.

We don't really consider one genre a specialty, tho we do have a lot of metal guys coming our way due to the clarity they maintain while still having power to spare. Matt Pike and Wino have signature models and we will be working with Bill Kelliher on a signature pickup for him as well. Very Doom-Prog-heavy Blues. Our big focus is a consistent tone across the pickup surface and clarity in each note, no matter how complex the chord you're aiming to hear. Hindsight Distribution in the UK should stock us, i think its the closest to you. There is a link in our web store. Keep me informed with that.

With the Alumitone they are designed to have a broad, sensitive, wide band tone with loads of warmth, clarity (we like clarity haha) and headroom. the articulation on the low end is but won't send you into the mud zone when playing deeper tunings or extended range pickups, and the design is unique in that the whole pickup surface is picking up the sound unless you split it, then it can still have a single coil tone in a quiet, unique looking chassis. They are also far lighter than even most single coils so you can lose some weight on a heavier guitar and maintain a light weight on others.
guitar/bass95
Banned
Join date: May 2010
390 IQ
#7
Bill Kelliher is a guitarist I recognize and respect. Points for that And UK suits fine. I'm not buying anything since I don't have money, but it's good to know my options.

And the thing is, I like clarity too. I like my high gain tone to have good note definition, ripping full six-string chords with distortion in a traditional Opeth style is in my opinion awesome. I'm certainly interested, do you have any bright bridge pickup models that are suited for metal?
thebestjoe
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2011
70 IQ
#8
I've checked out your site, but it seems to lack information on the dually series. Can you give a synopsis of the Red-Red (In bridge position) and the Emerald-Purple (in neck)? Can these models pull off metal and still have clarity? Thanks in advance.
Ibanez
Universe UV777 Signed by Steve Vai
Prestige RG2027X with Bare Knuckle Aftermaths
RG7621 swirled
Prestige RG1420
AEL207E
Mephaphil
No empty frets.
Join date: Apr 2012
150 IQ
#9
Lace Golds are amazing. They possibly are the best pickups I've heard.

Here's a problem. Your Strat scratch plate doesn't line up with the 2011 onwards Strat. I bought one from a shop in the UK and the screws don't line up. When they emailed you guys, you basically said it was Fenders fault for changing the way they lined up. The pickups were already installed so it would have been a headache to argue it based on the response.

I don't agree. You guys should state the years and models that they fit and make sure that if you continue to reproduce a product that it should line up with the current model. It's not Fenders responsibility to make sure, it's yours. They're free to change their specs as you want. If they change and you advertise them as fitting for X model you should ensure that you're aware of the changes and send memos out so folk know that it won't fit X model.

Luckily the store sorted me out with a free setup otherwise I wouldn't have got any reimbursement.

Anyway, I forgive you. /rant.

Lace Golds, awesome.
Quote by Shredwizard445
Go ahead and spend your money, I don't care. It won't make you sound better.


Quote by Shredwizard445
Sure upgrading your gear will make you sound better.


Last edited by Mephaphil at Jun 11, 2013,
tubetime86
I don't even play guitar.
Join date: Jul 2008
170 IQ
#10
Awesome to have you here, Nick!
Quote by Cathbard
Quote by Raijouta
Unless its electronic drums.

BURN THE WITCH!!!!!
Offworld92
One among the fence.
Join date: Nov 2009
520 IQ
#11
Why can't I find 6 string versions of the Deathbar or X-Bar? Makes no sense.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
Spambot_2
UG's rum aficionado
Join date: Jan 2013
130 IQ
#12
What single coil or sigle coil sized humbuckers would you choose to put on a Telecaster to play low tuned metal?

I'm looking for something that gives me a nice aggressive tone when playing low stuff, and still be (a bit at least :P) clear when playing more than two strings at once.

And by your knowledge, where is the best place to buy your pickups from, being in Italy?
Name's Luca.

Quote by OliOsbourne
I don't know anything about this topic, but I just clicked on this thread because of your username :O
Quote by Cajundaddy
Clue: amplifiers amplify so don't turn it on if you need quiet.
Quote by chrismendiola
I guess spambots are now capable of reading minds.
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#13
A good bridge metal pickup would be the standard Hemi or the Drop and Gain, the Hemi will offer more mid range punch while the Drop and Gain will be a clear, more scooped tone, and probably a bit brighter by comparison. Running a Drop and Gain bridge with a Nitro Hemi neck offers great dexterity for clear, heavy bridge tone and a singing mid and bell high in the Nitro Hemi. Splitting them will give you a range of strat and tele tones as well. But if you want a more classic metal pickup a Hemi will still bring it for you.

As far as the pickguard is concerned i voice this to Jeff and we will be fixing it as soon as we can, as i agree it is a good idea to give people more idea into what they are buying.

The six string version of the Death Bar and X-Bar would be the Deathbucker and our standard Alumitone Humbucker. The way we build them insures the tone characteristics stay the same regardless of the the string count.

Our tele style pickup, the T-100 and T-150 will offer a good single coil punch, no noise, and be able to hang with a metal sound and still voice all your chords clean and with more power. They are in a standard black bridge and chrome neck set up.

A Red/Red is our hottest output sensor, perfect for the bridge position when you're aiming for fat, heavy punch in a high output setting. Combined with an Emerald/Purple will be a very dark, chunky sound. As for where to purchase in Italy, The Music Office in Greece should work for that, we have a list of International dealers on our website under "where to buy."
guitar/bass95
Banned
Join date: May 2010
390 IQ
#14
It's really great to have you here nick You seem like a cool guy and you provide good help. One thing that bothers me is that your website doesn't have tone charts. So I really can't do comparison on my own, I'd like to find a mid to high gain bridge pickup with bright tone, but I can't conventionally check your site to see which pickups have most output and treble. Many manufacturers offer the bass/mid/treble chart and it helps a lot, you could consider adding that.
Mephaphil
No empty frets.
Join date: Apr 2012
150 IQ
#15
Quote by nick@lacemusic
As far as the pickguard is concerned i voice this to Jeff and we will be fixing it as soon as we can, as i agree it is a good idea to give people more idea into what they are buying.


That's great.
Quote by Shredwizard445
Go ahead and spend your money, I don't care. It won't make you sound better.


Quote by Shredwizard445
Sure upgrading your gear will make you sound better.


Offworld92
One among the fence.
Join date: Nov 2009
520 IQ
#18
Quote by nick@lacemusic

The six string version of the Death Bar and X-Bar would be the Deathbucker and our standard Alumitone Humbucker. The way we build them insures the tone characteristics stay the same regardless of the the string count.


Oh. Why the different names? Seems needlessly confusing.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
cliff_em_all
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2004
190 IQ
#19
Nick, You da man. Imma buy some laces for my strat now.
Quote by ZanasCross
I'm now so drunk that even if my mom had given me a blow job at aeg 2, i'd be like I'm a pmp, butches.!

If this even madkes sense... if yhou sig this, Iw ll kill you.
diabolical
Registered User
Join date: Apr 2005
40 IQ
#20
I remember having a really noisy strat and at that point in time your pickups were a bargain compared to the usual suspects so I dropped in all 3 Lace Sensors as you had a package deal. I wouldn't use anything else on single coil from then on.
Sadly the guitar got stolen and I don't remember what I had. I think it was blue in the neck, gold in mid and I think red in the bridge. Killer tone and no noise. Lace is what I recommend for single coil to my students and friends from then on.
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#21
Well the 6 string guitar frame is a different style than the 7-10. They are all still split-able into single coil modes, the magnet in 6's are offset and 7-10 are 3.5-5.0 straight bar magnets and frames. So "Deathbar" made as much sense as "Deathbucker." Plus they both just sound cool. ha

We're also going to get to work on a tone chart as soon as we can, we'll keep you updated as that progresses.

And thanks keep me updated on the strat info our Gold's and Hot Gold's are a great standard and we have a ton of different options, all with a big focus on being as quiet as possible.

I think you had a Red-Silver-Blue pickguard assembly @diabolical. Those are a great drop in, glad you've had such positive response! Rock on!
Mephaphil
No empty frets.
Join date: Apr 2012
150 IQ
#22
Quote by cliff_em_all
Nick, You da man. Imma buy some laces for my strat now.


Lace Golds. Yes. I hear good things.
Quote by Shredwizard445
Go ahead and spend your money, I don't care. It won't make you sound better.


Quote by Shredwizard445
Sure upgrading your gear will make you sound better.


guitar/bass95
Banned
Join date: May 2010
390 IQ
#23
Great Good to hear you take our opinion into account. I'll look into lace pickups more when I have money.
diabolical
Registered User
Join date: Apr 2005
40 IQ
#24
Quote by nick@lacemusic


I think you had a Red-Silver-Blue pickguard assembly @diabolical. Those are a great drop in, glad you've had such positive response! Rock on!


Nick, we're talking early 90s, I think '93 so not sure what I had, I think they looked a bit different then.
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#25
Ah definitely! The red is definitely a hot bridge, i read someone switched a blue into the bridge from an output perspective, didn't read how it sounded though. I'm not sure how we ran them then but that does sound like a super sweet set up. We have a Red/Silver/Blue now thats a standard replacement, i thought it might be the same. I wonder how a Gold would be.

Has anyone switched the original pickups in our pre loaded guards around for different tone setups?
cdr_salamander
or simply Nick
Join date: Mar 2009
90 IQ
#26
Bring the Tele Plus back! Or at least the pickups

EDIT: Most specifically the T-100.
Last edited by cdr_salamander at Jun 13, 2013,
Lace Music Prod
Lace Pickups - Official
Join date: Mar 2012
20 IQ
#27
We still have the T-100, do none of your local shops carry them? We'll figure it out.

Also, where would i be allowed to post a pickup review? i don't want to get the whole thread deleted. thanks!
cliff_em_all
Registered User
Join date: Mar 2004
190 IQ
#29
The least you both can do now is sponser me.
Quote by ZanasCross
I'm now so drunk that even if my mom had given me a blow job at aeg 2, i'd be like I'm a pmp, butches.!

If this even madkes sense... if yhou sig this, Iw ll kill you.
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#30
Haha i run both of them, we just found the old official thread and name, i forgot to switch.

As for endorsements go, you can write our A & R and if you or your band are truly interested we can help you with that.

An edit to the Tele Plus: The bridge was a Blue Dually with a gold logo, the middle was a chrome covered gold, and the neck was a tele neck cover in chrome wound as a Gold, and the other set up we had was a full blue neck, and a dually red bridge we are actually in the process of bringing back. I'll keep you informed as that is updated sorry for the mis step about the T-100, which we do make still if you are interested in that you can PM me or call us and we can direct you to where you'll find them.
guitar/bass95
Banned
Join date: May 2010
390 IQ
#33
Quote by nick@lacemusic
If you do that i'l develop a studder! puh puh puh please don't report me!


You're a great guy. This is the right way to advertise your product. Just keep me posted on the Kelliher signature.
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#34
Thanks! I'll definitely do that.

Hey does anyone here run Agile guitars? we were thinking of getting a few in here for doing the sound samples along with a few Gibson's we have but I personally have no experience with them. Any horror stories or potential things we need to know? I'm left handed btw, i know its severely limiting on what we can do. Thanks!
guitar/bass95
Banned
Join date: May 2010
390 IQ
#35
Quote by nick@lacemusic
Thanks! I'll definitely do that.

Hey does anyone here run Agile guitars? we were thinking of getting a few in here for doing the sound samples along with a few Gibson's we have but I personally have no experience with them. Any horror stories or potential things we need to know? I'm left handed btw, i know its severely limiting on what we can do. Thanks!


I don't own any, but I've heard they are top quality. And I'm sure they come left handed too.
gregs1020
Hi mom!
Join date: Dec 2007
1,160 IQ
#36
Quote by nick@lacemusic
Hey does anyone here run Agile guitars?

some days you'd think so.


welcome nick, good to have you here on UG.
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#37
Awesome yeah we're gonna get a seven string in and some others, just curious if anyone has used them before and how wide and long the neck and scale is, etc. And thanks! Glad to be here!
Offworld92
One among the fence.
Join date: Nov 2009
520 IQ
#38
Quote by gregs1020
some days you'd think so.


It's not NEARLY as bad as it used to be a year or two ago.

I wouldn't be surprised if some people think this entire forum is owned by Peavey either.
Spin 'round carousel when your horse isn't screwed in.

My band:
Fractured Instinct
(For fans of Death/Groove/Prog Metal)

Ibanez RGA42E
Ibanez S420
LTD H-301
Ibanez RG520
Peavey Predator USA
Douglas Grendel 725
Line 6 Pod HD500X
nick@lacemusic
Registered User
Join date: Jun 2013
20 IQ
#40
Hey we've been getting requests for demo videos and samples of our pickups we were wondering what exactly you guys want out of those and what you think is lacking from ours or the "average" pickup demo. Should there be multiple guitars? one guitar on multiple styles? pickups before and after? anything will help! Thanks we really appreciate the welcome thus far!
Page 1 of 3