#1
Hi, i have been thinking about getting the zoom r24 to record my band and later mix it in my daw (reaper). So here is the questions:
1. Can i record multiple takes on a track and it will save as a single wav file, so if my drummer does a mistake, we dont have to re-track the whole song? Can you also remove the end of the song where did the certain mistake?
2. How is the drum samples on the unit? Can i make drums myself on the unit without having to play real drums/ electronic kit?
3. Can i use it as a sampler live with an electronic drumkit for example. Does it work to trigger the korg with a midi keyboard for example?
4. When plugging into a computer, you get several options before its used as an interface. Can you make it act as a interface by default, so you dont have to choose each time you plug it into a computer?
5. As for the metronome on the unit, what do you do when there is tempo/ time sig changes in a song?
6. Is it possible to mix and master a song on the unit itself and make it sound good if you got some mixing skills?
Thank you
#2
1 - Yes. It's standard functionality on all multitrackers to be able to set punch in & out points so you can correct a mistake without re-recording the whole track.

2 - The drum samples included are pretty good. They're basically the same as I have on my Zoom RT-323 drum machine, although the R series is more recent & has a few more programmed rhythms/kits etc. All the tracks loaded to my profile have the drums programmed using it so you'll be able to hear an example of what it can do.

3 - Doubtful.

4 - Don't know for sure, but I'd be amazed if you can't set defaults.

5 - You'd have to read the manual to find out about this. The actual drum machine can certainly change tempo mid-song, but I don't know how much effort they put into the basic metronome.

6 - Yes, I believe you can mix & master on the unit itself, although it's designed to use software for mixing & mastering so you'll be able to get better results hooking up to your PC. Making it sound good if you've got some skills though...that's a big question. 'Good' is very subjective and skills take a long time to develop.

On the whole, Zoom's R series is an excellent choice for getting into recording. They can do everything most people will need them to and provide a great compromise between the two main DAW choices (multitracker or PC/interface/software). Make sure you buy the right one though:
  • If you're thinking of recording an actual drummer, or if you think you'll need to record a whole band, you'll want the 16 or 24 - the R8 doesn't have as many inputs.
  • If you're going to need the built in drum machine, don't get the R16. Unless they've updated the spec in the last few months (I haven't looked them up for a while) the drum machine was only included on the R8 & R24.


For my money, that makes the R24 the most sensible option possible.
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#3
One note on the R16/R24 - they're extremely cool/handy bits of kit but if you think there's any chance you might at any point want to record more than 8 tracks at once, think carefully. The only way to get additional inputs is to buy another R16/R24 and synchronise them, otherwise you're stuck with 8 at once.

In contrast, most 8-input audio interfaces typically have ADAT or some form of digital I/O giving you an extra 8+ tracks...ADAT hardware is very common and easy to find cheap/used.
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Quote by GaryBillington
1 - Yes. It's standard functionality on all multitrackers to be able to set punch in & out points so you can correct a mistake without re-recording the whole track.

2 - The drum samples included are pretty good. They're basically the same as I have on my Zoom RT-323 drum machine, although the R series is more recent & has a few more programmed rhythms/kits etc. All the tracks loaded to my profile have the drums programmed using it so you'll be able to hear an example of what it can do.

3 - Doubtful.

4 - Don't know for sure, but I'd be amazed if you can't set defaults.

5 - You'd have to read the manual to find out about this. The actual drum machine can certainly change tempo mid-song, but I don't know how much effort they put into the basic metronome.

6 - Yes, I believe you can mix & master on the unit itself, although it's designed to use software for mixing & mastering so you'll be able to get better results hooking up to your PC. Making it sound good if you've got some skills though...that's a big question. 'Good' is very subjective and skills take a long time to develop.

On the whole, Zoom's R series is an excellent choice for getting into recording. They can do everything most people will need them to and provide a great compromise between the two main DAW choices (multitracker or PC/interface/software). Make sure you buy the right one though:
  • If you're thinking of recording an actual drummer, or if you think you'll need to record a whole band, you'll want the 16 or 24 - the R8 doesn't have as many inputs.
  • If you're going to need the built in drum machine, don't get the R16. Unless they've updated the spec in the last few months (I haven't looked them up for a while) the drum machine was only included on the R8 & R24.


For my money, that makes the R24 the most sensible option possible.

Hi there, you say the R24 can change tempo mid-song. I'm struggling to achieve this - any chance you could help me out?
Thanks
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Hi there, you say the R24 can change tempo mid-song. I'm struggling to achieve this - any chance you could help me out?
Thanks

Do you have a copy of the manual? That's the detailed manual for the in-built functions, not the manual that shows how to use it with CuBase. If not, you can download one here:
http://www.zoom.co.jp/downloads/r24/software/
There's a link to both the Operation manual and the Audio Interface manual there.

The section you want starts on page 65 of the Operation manual. You basically set a point in the song where you want the tempo to change, and tell it the tempo you need. If you're still struggling, it's possibly worth downloading a manual for the Zoom Rt-323. That's a dedicated drum machine which I believe uses the same controls, the manual is a bit more in-depth as the drums are it's main function whereas in the R24 they're more of an added bonus.
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#6
yes you can master a 24 track mix to sound great. The interface with the sliders on 3 banks of tracks is a bit fiddly but you get used to it. But its very easy to transfer the files to a daw and use the R24 as a control surface mixer as a Mackie controller to operate the daws sliders. Much let hassle than a mouse.
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